The Horse's Mouth Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 2 minutes ago, tom27111 said: Exactly. If and when found guilty, they can rot in hell. But before that, it's harsh. It's pretty close to home with our own club, remember the (was it) Malaga 6? It's very difficult to maintain anonymity anyway as if this becomes an ongoing case then it's very unlikely the accused will be playing through it, but the actual reporting of it is a bit distasteful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 16 minutes ago, tom27111 said: Exactly. If and when found guilty, they can rot in hell. But before that, it's harsh. It's pretty close to home with our own club, remember the (was it) Malaga 6? In the end though, it wasn’t. It was two women making up a story for financial gain. Also, La Manga! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 19 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: I will say it does seem very odd that they're not naming the accused yet they're giving enough data for you to be able to narrow down the search and speculate on who it is like some sort of pub quiz Potential jeopardy of the case as well as a potential defamation of character if insufficient evidence to charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 1 minute ago, Bert said: In the end though, it wasn’t. It was two women making up a story for financial gain. Also, La Manga! But could you imagine if that happened today, with social media? You should always be innocent before proven guilty. That's all I'm saying. These allegations ruin lives. I'm not condoning anything at all. Justice should prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 6 minutes ago, tom27111 said: But could you imagine if that happened today, with social media? You should always be innocent before proven guilty. That's all I'm saying. These allegations ruin lives. I'm not condoning anything at all. Justice should prevail. Absolutely agree. Which is why it’s a good thing that anonymity is key. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 It’s worth noting that when it’s this high profile, it wouldn’t make the news if it wasn’t already a foregone conclusion these days. You only have to look at the last couple of things that have happened. Gylfi, Mendy.. to some extent Greenwood. The allegation side of things will be done behind closed doors and secretive, injunctions taken out to ensure no press until it’s got to the point where a charge is laid. Just my thoughts anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 Just like last season, I think this season hinges on us not getting injuries to key players. It looks like we aren’t going to be signing obvious ‘first teamers’ and will rely on our squad. I maintain, if we can field our first 11 most weeks, we‘ll be ok and will probably finish about the same this term. However, lose our best players again to injury and we’ll struggle even more this season I think. Especially to the defence. If we end up having to rely again for any length of time on the Cags/Big Dan CB combo, having not signed better, I’ll throw something at the tele and swear profusely. ‘Villa have strengthened, Palace have strengthened, The Saints have strengthened, Newcastle, West Ham, Arsenal… all of them are bringing in better players. It could get tricky I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 39 minutes ago, AjcW said: It’s worth noting that when it’s this high profile, it wouldn’t make the news if it wasn’t already a foregone conclusion these days. You only have to look at the last couple of things that have happened. Gylfi, Mendy.. to some extent Greenwood. The allegation side of things will be done behind closed doors and secretive, injunctions taken out to ensure no press until it’s got to the point where a charge is laid. Just my thoughts anyway! Plus the player at Sunderland a few years ago (under-age victim). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 40 minutes ago, AjcW said: It’s worth noting that when it’s this high profile, it wouldn’t make the news if it wasn’t already a foregone conclusion these days. You only have to look at the last couple of things that have happened. Gylfi, Mendy.. to some extent Greenwood. The allegation side of things will be done behind closed doors and secretive, injunctions taken out to ensure no press until it’s got to the point where a charge is laid. Just my thoughts anyway! I think the argument is these people shouldn't be exposed until found guilty rather than the rumours being true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tom27111 Posted 4 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 4 July 2022 1 hour ago, AjcW said: It’s worth noting that when it’s this high profile, it wouldn’t make the news if it wasn’t already a foregone conclusion these days. You only have to look at the last couple of things that have happened. Gylfi, Mendy.. to some extent Greenwood. The allegation side of things will be done behind closed doors and secretive, injunctions taken out to ensure no press until it’s got to the point where a charge is laid. Just my thoughts anyway! Just because people are high profile, why should their names be dragged through the mud before going to trial? I'm in no way condoning what the people you've named have done, not in a million years. But Cliff Richard and Paul Gambaccini are two examples of people who've been judged and had trial by media, both proven innocent. You wouldn't wish allegations like that on your worst enemy. It fvcked me up for a long time, destroyed my marriage and pretty much ruined my life for about 5 years. And it still hasn't gone away. As I say, if you're proven guilty, you get what you deserve. But please don't jump to conclusions. And do not in any way think that I'm defending people who have carried out heinous crimes. Try living it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 Anyway, Arsenal are laughing signing Gabriel Jesus for that much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear Of The Fox Posted 4 July 2022 Share Posted 4 July 2022 35 minutes ago, tom27111 said: Just because people are high profile, why should their names be dragged through the mud before going to trial? I'm in no way condoning what the people you've named have done, not in a million years. But Cliff Richard and Paul Gambaccini are two examples of people who've been judged and had trial by media, both proven innocent. You wouldn't wish allegations like that on your worst enemy. It fvcked me up for a long time, destroyed my marriage and pretty much ruined my life for about 5 years. And it still hasn't gone away. As I say, if you're proven guilty, you get what you deserve. But please don't jump to conclusions. And do not in any way think that I'm defending people who have carried out heinous crimes. Try living it. The major issue is that the presumption of innocence has being gradually replaced with the presumption of possible guilt not only in UK but also in other countries and judges/lawmakers are embracing this while the journalists and the media are always ready for a Colloseum throwing everyone into the lions. In other words, we're making huge steps backwards as a society. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 4 July 2022 Author Share Posted 4 July 2022 1 hour ago, Col city fan said: Just like last season, I think this season hinges on us not getting injuries to key players. It looks like we aren’t going to be signing obvious ‘first teamers’ and will rely on our squad. I maintain, if we can field our first 11 most weeks, we‘ll be ok and will probably finish about the same this term. However, lose our best players again to injury and we’ll struggle even more this season I think. Especially to the defence. If we end up having to rely again for any length of time on the Cags/Big Dan CB combo, having not signed better, I’ll throw something at the tele and swear profusely. ‘Villa have strengthened, Palace have strengthened, The Saints have strengthened, Newcastle, West Ham, Arsenal… all of them are bringing in better players. It could get tricky I think I think this is spot on, a full season with the likes of Fofana, Ricardo, Maddison, Barnes, Ndidi in our squad all playing week in week out is massive and we are a match for anyone. This is where it becomes difficult to sign first team ready players, as our first 11 is as good as anyone outside the top 2. So any players that would be better than those who already occupy those positions simply won’t come here. It’s a huge challenge for us, especially with the top six reverting to the big money six, Newcastle now having the money to compete, and IMO spending very wisely. And as you say the mid table teams all strengthening. a fully fit squad, we can compete with the top six an injury to Vardy, Fofana, Madders or Ndidi and the replacements are mid table Prem players not top six quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 Who's the player arrested on rape allegations? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 4 minutes ago, Raj said: Who's the player arrested on rape allegations? Not on here Raj ……. no names allowed ….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Not on here Raj ……. no names allowed ….. Legal implications and all that ? Get it, sorry for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 3 minutes ago, Raj said: Legal implications and all that ? Get it, sorry for asking. there have been plenty of posts asking and plenty of posts with names but they get removed by mods …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 (edited) Fvcking disgusting how many Arsenal fans on twitter trying to convince everyone it's Ben Davies because apparently rape allegations are a time to play up to your local rivalry and convince everyone it's a Tottenham player. To such an extent that it you Google premier league rape allegations, Ben Davies' name comes up as a suggested Google search ffs. Man's on holiday with his new wife. You stay classy Arsenal twitter. Edited 5 July 2022 by Finnegan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 10 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said: I will say it does seem very odd that they're not naming the accused yet they're giving enough data for you to be able to narrow down the search and speculate on who it is like some sort of pub quiz It's probably standard procedure because normally that sort of data wouldn't identify someone but as a footballer and celebrity where there's so much more info about them out there it's much easier to speculate. Maybe they should rethink it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 12 hours ago, foxfanazer said: What makes you think that? Can confirm my information was erroneous. cannot confirm it isn’t who it’s widely reported to be … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 3 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Can confirm my information was erroneous. cannot confirm it isn’t who it’s widely reported to be … Haha no worries mate. I guess it'll be common knowledge soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrefelderFox666 Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 1 hour ago, foxfanazer said: Haha no worries mate. I guess it'll be common knowledge soon enough Thanks to some inside knowledge, I can confirm, it's... Rebekah Vardy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 (edited) A step in the right direction, at least. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62049266 Edited 5 July 2022 by Wymsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 32 minutes ago, Wymsey said: A step in the right direction, at least. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62049266 It's like p1ssing in the Ocean, when there are so many adverts encouraging Live betting before, at halt time and the end of matches on the TV during Games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie82uk Posted 5 July 2022 Share Posted 5 July 2022 (edited) Tv picks Saturday 13 August 12:30 Aston Villa v Everton (BT Sport) 17:30 Brentford v Man Utd (Sky Sports) Sunday 14 August 14:00 Nottingham Forest v West Ham (Sky Sports) 16:30 Chelsea v Spurs (Sky Sports) Monday 15 August 20:00 Liverpool v Crystal Palace (Sky Sports) Saturday 20 August 12:30 Spurs v Wolves (BT Sport) 17:30 AFC Bournemouth v Arsenal (Sky Sports) Sunday 21 August 14:00 Leeds v Chelsea (Sky Sports) 14:00 West Ham v Brighton* * due to West Ham's UEFA Europa Conference League participation the preceding Thursday 16:30 Newcastle v Man City (Sky Sports) Monday 22 August 20:00 Man Utd v Liverpool (Sky Sports) Saturday 27 August 12:30 Southampton v Man Utd (BT Sport) 17:30 Arsenal v Fulham (Sky Sports) Sunday 28 August 14:00 Aston Villa v West Ham* * due to West Ham's UEFA Europa Conference League participation the preceding Thursday 14:00 Wolves v Newcastle (Sky Sports) 16:30 Nottingham Forest v Spurs (Sky Sports) Tuesday 30 August 19:30 Crystal Palace v Brentford (BT Sport) 19:30 Fulham v Brighton (BT Sport) 19:45 Southampton v Chelsea (BT Sport) 20:00 Leeds v Everton (BT Sport) Wednesday 31 August 19:30 AFC Bournemouth v Wolves (BT Sport) 19:30 Arsenal v Aston Villa (BT Sport) 19:30 Man City v Nottingham Forest (BT Sport) 19:45 West Ham v Spurs (BT Sport) 20:00 Liverpool v Newcastle (BT Sport) Thursday 1 September 20:00 Leicester v Man Utd (BT Sport) Saturday 3 September 12:30 Everton v Liverpool (BT Sport) 17:30 Aston Villa v Man City (Sky Sports) Sunday 4 September 14:00 Brighton v Leicester* * due to Leicester v Man Utd being moved to 1 Sept 14:00 Chelsea v West Ham (Sky Sports)* * subject to change should Chelsea be scheduled to play in the UEFA Champions League the following Tuesday 16:30 Man Utd v Arsenal (Sky Sports) Saturday 10 September 12:30 Fulham v Chelsea (BT Sport)* * subject to change dependent upon the participation of Chelsea in the UEFA Champions League the preceding Wednesday 17:30 Man City v Spurs (Sky Sports) Sunday 11 September 14:00 Arsenal v Everton* * due to Arsenal's UEFA Europa League participation the preceding Thursday 14:00 West Ham v Newcastle (Sky Sports) 16:30 Crystal Palace v Man Utd (Sky Sports) Monday 12 September 20:00 Leeds v Nottingham Forest (Sky Sports) Friday 16 September 20:00 Aston Villa v Southampton (Sky Sports) 20:00 Nottingham Forest v Fulham* * club request with Board approval Saturday 17 September 12:30 Wolves v Man City (BT Sport)* * subject to change dependent upon the participation of Man City in the UEFA Champions League the preceding Wednesday 17:30 Spurs v Leicester (Sky Sports) Sunday 18 September 14:00 Brentford v Arsenal (Sky Sports) 14:00 Man Utd v Leeds* * due to Man Utd's UEFA Europa League participation the preceding Thursday 16:30 Chelsea v Liverpool (Sky Sports) Edited 5 July 2022 by jammie82uk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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