CosbehFox Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 1 hour ago, filbertway said: Mainly laziness on the FA's part. It's easy to get around anyway so there's no excuse to get caught. Place bets in cash or get a mate/family member to stick them on for you. Yet Trippier and Sturridge both got rightly banned doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 29 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Yeah I think this is incorrect. Professional footballers aren’t allowed to bet on any football, anywhere. 37 minutes ago, Guest said: I am pretty confident that that is not the case. Nobody playing at or above a certain level of non-league football can bet on any football anywhere. 37 minutes ago, Guest said: I am pretty confident that that is not the case. Nobody playing at or above a certain level of non-league football can bet on any football anywhere. I am only basing my assertion on betting on football on the FA Betting guidelines posted earlier... https://www.thefa.com/TheFA/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Rules_Regs/2011/5848 FA Betting Booklet.ash According to this document a footballer can bet on games in competitions he is in no way involved in, and the examples it gives involve professional teams, so the Championship player betting on a game in the Championship or a League 2 player betting on a FA Cup match. Before looking at that booklet, I would have assumed no betting on football (or even sports) at all, but that's not what it says... But I am only basing what I said on the FA Betting Booklet itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 2 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Could easily be ban for the rest of the season, take his goals away and all round play for the next 23 games, were do they finish? Good point, this is good for Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 They'll likely to drop like a stone if he's banned for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 17 minutes ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: I am only basing my assertion on betting on football on the FA Betting guidelines posted earlier... https://www.thefa.com/TheFA/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Rules_Regs/2011/5848 FA Betting Booklet.ash According to this document a footballer can bet on games in competitions he is in no way involved in, and the examples it gives involve professional teams, so the Championship player betting on a game in the Championship or a League 2 player betting on a FA Cup match. Before looking at that booklet, I would have assumed no betting on football (or even sports) at all, but that's not what it says... But I am only basing what I said on the FA Betting Booklet itself. Thank you for that, interesting read. I’d read the below from the PFA so God knows haha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 23 minutes ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: I am only basing my assertion on betting on football on the FA Betting guidelines posted earlier... https://www.thefa.com/TheFA/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Rules_Regs/2011/5848 FA Betting Booklet.ash According to this document a footballer can bet on games in competitions he is in no way involved in, and the examples it gives involve professional teams, so the Championship player betting on a game in the Championship or a League 2 player betting on a FA Cup match. Before looking at that booklet, I would have assumed no betting on football (or even sports) at all, but that's not what it says... But I am only basing what I said on the FA Betting Booklet itself. Old document that. Regulations were strengthened in 2014 to ban any sort of football betting for players in professional leagues and the top few semi-pro leagues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 1 hour ago, CosbehFox said: Yet Trippier and Sturridge both got rightly banned doing that Think they did one or two but 200 is very serious!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie82uk Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Think they did one or two but 200 is very serious!! The Trippier one was his best mate placing multiple bets on his move to Atletico Madrid apparently unbeknownst to him, He was banned from all football-related activity for 10 weeks and fined £70,000 for 7 breaches Sturridge got a 4 month ban from all footballing activities and £150,000 fine for 11 breaches Edited 16 November 2022 by jammie82uk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 The fella made all these bets in the period when he was playing in leagues 1 and 2. then 1 year for Brentford I imagine he was earning a max of £1500/week through the first three years and perhaps £7.5k at Brentford in 2020 plus goal bonus’ he’s in a financially very different place now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 44 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Think they did one or two but 200 is very serious!! Was pointing out that the example of telling your mates / family to put bets isn’t foolproof. All of them deserve/d punishment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 2 hours ago, RumbleFox said: Yeah I think this is incorrect. Professional footballers aren’t allowed to bet on any football, anywhere. rightfully so. they all have wide football circles that could effect outcomes technically. an old coach working in league 1 telling them their star players are injured but it’s not public knowledge. just better to keep it out of it. very daft by toney but worth noting this was way before he was a brentford man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 20 minutes ago, st albans fox said: The fella made all these bets in the period when he was playing in leagues 1 and 2. then 1 year for Brentford I imagine he was earning a max of £1500/week through the first three years and perhaps £7.5k at Brentford in 2020 plus goal bonus’ he’s in a financially very different place now All the more problematic - the lower it happens in the pyramid, it’s more suspect to actual actions happen to make winning bets occur. You can bet on as low as level 3/tier7 (even lower with FA Vase) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoonerJeeves Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 (edited) I feel sorry for the Brentford fans. He's pretty much their most important player. If he gets banned for a lengthy period of time, they'll suffer for it. If he's bet on games he's been involved with, the ban hammer will strike hard. Brentford has a betting company on the shirt and an owner who made his fortune on betting. Somewhat ironic. Edited 16 November 2022 by GoonerJeeves 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 That'll be Ivan Toney banned for the rest of the season you'd expect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 16 November 2022 Share Posted 16 November 2022 What an idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gurru991 Posted 17 November 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 17 November 2022 1 hour ago, Finnegan said: What an idiot. Gambling is an addiction that is extremely difficult to overcome. I have suffered from this addiction & don't consider myself an idiot. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 17 November 2022 Share Posted 17 November 2022 If he wasnt selected by Southgate due to this... does that suggest some issues with the "leaking" of his trial results, seems dodgy that the England manager would be informed well in advance of the decision being made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 17 November 2022 Share Posted 17 November 2022 31 minutes ago, gurru991 said: Gambling is an addiction that is extremely difficult to overcome. I have suffered from this addiction & don't consider myself an idiot. you’re not a professional footballer. He should have never been in a situation to become addicted. You’re not addicted before you start something, that’s a choice… that’s where he’s an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soar Fox Posted 17 November 2022 Share Posted 17 November 2022 3 hours ago, CosbehFox said: All the more problematic - the lower it happens in the pyramid, it’s more suspect to actual actions happen to make winning bets occur. You can bet on as low as level 3/tier7 (even lower with FA Vase) Me & 2 friends won quite a bit of money a few years back as the brother in-law of a league 2 player had been told that they were putting their youth team out against a very low ranked non-league team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 17 November 2022 Share Posted 17 November 2022 1 hour ago, Lambert09 said: you’re not a professional footballer. He should have never been in a situation to become addicted. You’re not addicted before you start something, that’s a choice… that’s where he’s an idiot. You have a very simplistic view on how addictions work. May you and your family be fortunate enough to avoid the pitfalls life can offer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 17 November 2022 Share Posted 17 November 2022 3 hours ago, gurru991 said: Gambling is an addiction that is extremely difficult to overcome. I have suffered from this addiction & don't consider myself an idiot. Firstly, has anyone anywhere (and I'm not asking rhetorically I'm being serious) actually said Toney has an addiction? Secondly, even if he does, he could bet on literally anything other than football. I mean how do you even get started to develop an addiction in the first place if you haven't dabbled to begin with? Look, if he has a genuine problem I'll be sympathetic to a point but you still have to be wildly moronic as a footballer to bet on football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 17 November 2022 Share Posted 17 November 2022 33 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Firstly, has anyone anywhere (and I'm not asking rhetorically I'm being serious) actually said Toney has an addiction? Secondly, even if he does, he could bet on literally anything other than football. I mean how do you even get started to develop an addiction in the first place if you haven't dabbled to begin with? Look, if he has a genuine problem I'll be sympathetic to a point but you still have to be wildly moronic as a footballer to bet on football. The FA are only concerned with bets made on football. They don't care if he made a thousand bets on horses or darts. How do you get started to develop any addiction ? The first toke, the first smoke, the first whiskey or the first flutter. Addictions start easily .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 17 November 2022 Share Posted 17 November 2022 Well at least all this has made my selection dilemma a little easier between him and Mitrovic to replace Jesus in the fantasy football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 17 November 2022 Share Posted 17 November 2022 1 hour ago, Finnegan said: Firstly, has anyone anywhere (and I'm not asking rhetorically I'm being serious) actually said Toney has an addiction? Secondly, even if he does, he could bet on literally anything other than football. I mean how do you even get started to develop an addiction in the first place if you haven't dabbled to begin with? Look, if he has a genuine problem I'll be sympathetic to a point but you still have to be wildly moronic as a footballer to bet on football. He might not have even placed the bets. He could just be connected to the placing of the bets, which is still prohibited. Even club shop staff aren’t allowed to bet on football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 17 November 2022 Share Posted 17 November 2022 9 hours ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: I am only basing my assertion on betting on football on the FA Betting guidelines posted earlier... https://www.thefa.com/TheFA/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Rules_Regs/2011/5848 FA Betting Booklet.ash According to this document a footballer can bet on games in competitions he is in no way involved in, and the examples it gives involve professional teams, so the Championship player betting on a game in the Championship or a League 2 player betting on a FA Cup match. Before looking at that booklet, I would have assumed no betting on football (or even sports) at all, but that's not what it says... But I am only basing what I said on the FA Betting Booklet itself. I’ll be shocked if the bets are on games against his own team. Wouldn’t be surprised if the bets were about him scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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