Popular Post foxile5 Posted 24 December 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 24 December 2022 9 minutes ago, TJQuik said: I dunno if MLS teams being in the Club World Cup will change anything, they seem more interested in being plastic fans of premier league clubs. I can't wait to go doopin mental watching the Chelsea Lions face off against Barcelona though! My skin is crawling at that chant. This is perhaps my uneasiness at the increasing Americanisation of sports. The cultural heritage of football has developed over a couple of centuries and has some sense of organic tradition (apart from the MK Cons). Americans seems to enjoy this forced, twee approach to support. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 24 December 2022 Share Posted 24 December 2022 Just now, foxile5 said: My skin is crawling at that chant. This is perhaps my uneasiness at the increasing Americanisation of sports. The cultural heritage of football has developed over a couple of centuries and has some sense of organic tradition (apart from the MK Cons). Americans seems to enjoy this forced, twee approach to support. But you could analyse ours and they could sound cringey, Americans will use American phrases just as we use ours. Heritage is cultural so American Heritage will be different to ours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 24 December 2022 Share Posted 24 December 2022 The reality is that MLS clubs and atmospheres are more influenced by related second generation diaspora rather than Americanisation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylesta Posted 24 December 2022 Share Posted 24 December 2022 3 hours ago, TJQuik said: I dunno if MLS teams being in the Club World Cup will change anything, they seem more interested in being plastic fans of premier league clubs. I can't wait to go doopin mental watching the Chelsea Lions face off against Barcelona though! Or cursing the referee when he ain't about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 24 December 2022 Share Posted 24 December 2022 4 hours ago, purpleronnie said: But you could analyse ours and they could sound cringey, Americans will use American phrases just as we use ours. Heritage is cultural so American Heritage will be different to ours. And thus we hit the crux. The slow erosion of our heritage to cede to an Americanised model is both obvious and very, very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davieG Posted 25 December 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 25 December 2022 You can't fool Pep! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Next Year Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 4 minutes ago, davieG said: You can't fool Pep! When Southgate sees this Maddison’s got no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 8 minutes ago, Always Next Year said: When Southgate sees this Maddison’s got no chance. You would assume that he was fit when left Man City, if he wasn't why was he there so what sort of training was Southgate running for him to return unfit to even train with the team? Apparently not even fit when he cam on as a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 if you can’t get behind this bit of “Americanisation”, there’s not much hope for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 23 hours ago, TJQuik said: I dunno if MLS teams being in the Club World Cup will change anything, they seem more interested in being plastic fans of premier league clubs. I can't wait to go doopin mental watching the Chelsea Lions face off against Barcelona though! Flip, flip, flip a delphia. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 On 24/12/2022 at 13:41, foxile5 said: I don't know if it belongs in here or a more general football chat but... For years I've banged in about the slow and purposeful Americanisms creeping into football. It's been a steady process but it's more or less complete. It's now 'Leicester is...' as standard rather than a 'Leicester are...' a small change but one that de-collectivises the club. You don't say 'We is...'. A handy change for viewing a community asset as something distinct rather than part of a wider body. We now have 'The Press' rather than 'closing down' - the naming of tactics becoming more and more common and is definitely a nod to the named tactics of The NFL. We even had commentators and fans alike desperately trying attach 'The Quarterback Role' to some midfielders, most notably Gerrard. I think it may have even been Brendan that said it. We egregious sponsorship and ever growing silly dances when scoring. We don't go to games we have matchday experiences. The language of the game is now paving the way for an all round Americanised product. Football is the worse for it for sure. However, it's just sorta happened that we're drifting towards majority ownership being American. I suppose my question is this - are we happy with that? As fans of foreign owners (which is what Americans are) do we lose the right to object to Americanised Premier League? What are the implications of this? I think we're sleep walking towards a franchise model and Super League myself and I hate it. Oh, and get a load of this garbage. Our opponents in the FA Cup: https://twitter.com/TheGillsFC/status/1606379120052604936?s=20&t=1yi6N6Tb7ro-br4uqpvr5g Football supporting is evolving all the time, when I started it was the end time of Rattle and Rosettes, no fan segregation, applauding good play from both teams, there was singing of 'popular songs' and 'non aggressive banter' with the opposition. Pretty much all of that has disappeared as it reflects as it did before the English culture which was changing at a rapid pace. As more European football is televised and visited that has also influenced fan behaviour and culture and this has been broadly welcomed. The world is becoming increasingly homogenised I think you just have to accept it you can't hold back the tide of change. That doesn't mean we have to roll over and accept everything from everyone least of all changes to the league structure which I think is significantly more important that a few language changes. If you want get upset I believe that's where your efforts and anger should be directed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 Good news for Brentford if Spurs really do rest their World cup stars. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64090081 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 Wolves likely to end up having to pay €50m for Cunha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 1 hour ago, moore_94 said: Wolves likely to end up having to pay €50m for Cunha As I've said before Mendes prices are different to normal ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 1 minute ago, The Bear said: As I've said before Mendes prices are different to normal ones. I don't think that would make me feel any better tbh man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 20 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I don't think that would make me feel any better tbh man. It is what it is. We get some absolute steals, but sometimes we overpay. Part of his merry go round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 (edited) On 20/12/2022 at 17:15, Facecloth said: There was some defence of this fella when the original story broke - apparently some of these bets he made relate to when playing for Peterborough and betting on games he played in Edited 25 December 2022 by CosbehFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillippaT Posted 25 December 2022 Share Posted 25 December 2022 1 hour ago, The Bear said: It is what it is. We get some absolute steals, but sometimes we overpay. Part of his merry go round. You win some, you lose some - it's all the same to me... 😛 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 26 December 2022 Share Posted 26 December 2022 The Premier league is back and sky have the rights to show no games 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 26 December 2022 Share Posted 26 December 2022 2 hours ago, whoareyaaa said: The Premier league is back and sky have the rights to show no games None on 5live either .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 26 December 2022 Share Posted 26 December 2022 As much as Jeff Bezos annoys me, anything that makes Sky look like mugs is fine with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2022 Share Posted 26 December 2022 Good picture of Rico Henry for Mbuemo there 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 26 December 2022 Share Posted 26 December 2022 I know it's nice watching games on TV on boxing day, and we've gotten away with it, but some of these moved fixtures on boxing day are a real pain. Think the 8pm boxing day slot needs binning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJQuik Posted 26 December 2022 Share Posted 26 December 2022 hehehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 26 December 2022 Share Posted 26 December 2022 Well that is nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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