Popular Post Bevan Posted 3 February 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 3 February 2023 Having been online, I find it absolutely mental how so many people are okay with Greenwood coming back. Obviously the majority of these people are Man U fans but I just can’t get my head around it. If it was one of our players, I wouldn’t want them to play for us again. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpaM Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 (edited) You have to bare in mind that a lot of these "fans" saying he should return are probably living thousands of miles away and don't understand the evidence that has been put out, or live in a place where this sort of stuff is mostly ignored I can't imagine the actual footage was seen by a lot of people outside of the uk Edited 3 February 2023 by MrSpaM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 I've seen people saying that they could have been role-playing. You'd have to be serious f***** up to role-play a rape/domestic abuse scenario 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 32 minutes ago, Daggers said: Get raped? My baby girl is 21. My point remains, someone rapes or assaults her and I will string them by their sinews. It’s not hyperbole, I am a child victim of repeated assault and rape. I will forever wish that someone had gutted my assailants with rusty blades. I said ‘in this context’ My point went over your head - it wasn’t worth making anyway in this thread ….it was about dads and daughters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 11 minutes ago, Bevan said: Having been online, I find it absolutely mental how so many people are okay with Greenwood coming back. Obviously the majority of these people are Man U fans but I just can’t get my head around it. If it was one of our players, I wouldn’t want them to play for us again. I had to explain to my eleven y o this morning what the context is. He (and no doubt millions of youngsters) just read that he’s innocent. if United think that he can play in the PL without any consequences then they’re making an error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 7 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I had to explain to my eleven y o this morning what the context is. He (and no doubt millions of youngsters) just read that he’s innocent. if United think that he can play in the PL without any consequences then they’re making an error. Didn't the NFL have a similar situation with Greg hardy? Where he was charged with domestic abuse but the victim refused to give evidence so charges were dropped but he was still cut and black listed basically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 1 hour ago, ARTY_FOX said: Didn't the NFL have a similar situation with Greg hardy? Where he was charged with domestic abuse but the victim refused to give evidence so charges were dropped but he was still cut and black listed basically? I'm 99.999% sure Greenwood's career is over in Europe / western world. In a way, Adam Johnson has more of a credible claim for a return, having served a sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 2 hours ago, st albans fox said: I had to explain to my eleven y o this morning what the context is. He (and no doubt millions of youngsters) just read that he’s innocent. if United think that he can play in the PL without any consequences then they’re making an error. They may not think that but, they probably have a very difficult situation legally. When Greenwood was charged, he was immediately suspended. If the case had proceeded and a guilty verdict returned, it's a straightforward dismissal offence. Not guilty, you've legally been found innocent (although sometimes we know that's dubious) and you are bound to honour a contract etc. In this instance, the evidence was out in the public domain and now charges aren't being pursued. Legally, no charges remain. The opinion of the club, and how they see things from a moral and reputation view point, might be very different to what they can do from a legal point. Man U have said they are doing their own investigation, which no doubt has the HR and legal people very, very busy. Hopefully looking for a way to get rid of him, within the constraints of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 31 minutes ago, FoyleFox said: They may not think that but, they probably have a very difficult situation legally. When Greenwood was charged, he was immediately suspended. If the case had proceeded and a guilty verdict returned, it's a straightforward dismissal offence. Not guilty, you've legally been found innocent (although sometimes we know that's dubious) and you are bound to honour a contract etc. In this instance, the evidence was out in the public domain and now charges aren't being pursued. Legally, no charges remain. The opinion of the club, and how they see things from a moral and reputation view point, might be very different to what they can do from a legal point. Man U have said they are doing their own investigation, which no doubt has the HR and legal people very, very busy. Hopefully looking for a way to get rid of him, within the constraints of his contract. I’m not saying that they need to sack him - they have no grounds outside of a tricky disrepute angle but they don’t need him to be training with the 1st team squad and they can be looking at offloading his registration to a country where he won’t be vilified by crowds. The issue will be if he does go to somewhere like Turkey and regains his form and mojo then other countries will then look at him. How many years before he would be accepted over here? he could play here in European football. If the player wants to rekindle his career then this is not going to go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 I'd never want to see Greenwood playing for a team I supported but think he'll walk back in to the game pretty soon (possibly not with Man U though). It's a tragedy that his girlfriend, at her age, has decided that accepting this type of behaviour is the price for going out with a footballer earning £75,000 a week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 Henry Winters article points out that he'll never play for England again, which is the right decision. Having said that I imagine it's a Southgate decision rather than an FA one so it could always be overturned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lanefox Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 4 minutes ago, davieG said: Big gambler so he's probably bet on Rennes over 1.5 team goals on many occasions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 No self respecting club will take Greenwood on, he'll probably continue his career abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 4 hours ago, Bevan said: Having been online, I find it absolutely mental how so many people are okay with Greenwood coming back. Obviously the majority of these people are Man U fans but I just can’t get my head around it. If it was one of our players, I wouldn’t want them to play for us again. Online where? I always find it's majority these weird twitter football accounts that always back players, I had a look on RedCafe yesterday and a lot were against him coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 (edited) I’m sure there’s probably a Champions League thread but couldn’t find one on a search, besides part of what I’m about to say is generally based around players choices of joining clubs. Anyway, not really. He’s been bad news wherever he’s been recently, touting himself about, not looking particularly bothered, plus perhaps this shows players should be abit more choosey where they play their football, weighing up whether they’ll actually play - if they’re actually bothered about playing. Edited 3 February 2023 by Matt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foxile5 Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 5 minutes ago, purpleronnie said: I read that in the style of 'hello darkness my old friend'. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 54 minutes ago, Matt said: I’m sure there’s probably a Champions League thread but couldn’t find one on a search, besides part of what I’m about to say is generally based around players choices of joining clubs. Anyway, not really. He’s been bad news wherever he’s been recently, touting himself about, not looking particularly bothered, plus perhaps this shows players should be abit more choosey where they play their football, weighing up whether they’ll actually play - if they’re actually bothered about playing. All those millions he'll be earning, my heart bleeds. As you say he knew exactly what he was signing up to at Chel$€a 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody2028 Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 A Fulham win tonight would be cracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 6 minutes ago, goody2028 said: A Fulham win tonight would be cracking. Hear, hear! It's become a sacred mission to keep that money-pissing idiot and his club out of the Champions League ... out of Europe this year if possible. Boehly has kicked hundreds of millions in costs down the road with all these huge, seven-plus year contracts. If Chelsea can't be CL regulars, how will they attract the sponsorship and prize money to cover them? I'd love to see this house of cards crash down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 All that money spent and still playing Mount, Gallagher, Cucurella and no striker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 They’ll probably concede now I say this, but Fulham players are certainly all singing from the same hymn sheet. I wonder how long until Silva jumps ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincinnati Fox Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 6 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: All that money spent and still playing Mount, Gallagher, Cucurella and no striker And Gallagher and ziyech start despite both having bids accepted on deadline day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergray22 Posted 3 February 2023 Share Posted 3 February 2023 9 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: All that money spent and still playing Mount, Gallagher, Cucurella and no striker Unbelievable really isn’t it. The squad will be almost unmanageable. They have offered all those long contracts but inevitably will need to freshen things up in years to come. Meanwhile players will lose form and motivation and they will lose millions in wasted player value. Basically hamstringing their on field potential and spinning money up the wall. It’s a gamble I wouldn’t be happy entertaining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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