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6 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

He watches them both train with the first team, if Iversen was even on par surely he would’ve got his chance now. 
I get the perseverance bit, after he got off to a shaky start, but 20 odd games later and he is still rank.
If you’re Iversen and you can’t get a game in front of Ward, you wouldn’t want to stick around for long with BR in charge.

You would certainly think so. Honestly, I disagree with the common narrative here, that Iversen hasn't put a foot wrong, he looked a bit like a bomb scare in the recent games.

 

How ****ing shite must you be if you can't get a game in ahead of Danny Ward?

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2 minutes ago, BillyFOX12 said:

You would certainly think so. Honestly, I disagree with the common narrative here, that Iversen hasn't put a foot wrong, he looked a bit like a bomb scare in the recent games.

 

How ****ing shite must you be if you can't get a game in ahead of Danny Ward?

Looking like a bomb scare and actually doing something wrong are different aren't they. 

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2 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I cannot remember Ward making a worldie save or one that you wouldn’t expect a keeper to make. All his ‘good’ saves are regulation, ones you would expect a professional goalkeeper to make. 
 

Take Sunday for instance, before Man Utd took the lead, De Gea had already made 2 superb saves, one from Barnes and one from Iheanacho, Ward would not have made either of those and his positioning for both of Rashfords one on ones was absolutely awful. Somehow he has the ability to make the goal appear bigger in these instances rather than narrowing the angles. 
 

he is by far and away the poorest of the starting goalkeepers in the premier league and I would go as far as to say many back ups are superior to our No1 

I know it's a still photo which can often be misleading but a few times this season I've seen photos of teams scoring against us and Ward is in the most unexpected position or pose:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64614427

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2 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I cannot remember Ward making a worldie save or one that you wouldn’t expect a keeper to make. All his ‘good’ saves are regulation, ones you would expect a professional goalkeeper to make. 
 

Take Sunday for instance, before Man Utd took the lead, De Gea had already made 2 superb saves, one from Barnes and one from Iheanacho, Ward would not have made either of those and his positioning for both of Rashfords one on ones was absolutely awful. Somehow he has the ability to make the goal appear bigger in these instances rather than narrowing the angles. 
 

he is by far and away the poorest of the starting goalkeepers in the premier league and I would go as far as to say many back ups are superior to our No1 

 

2 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I cannot remember Ward making a worldie save or one that you wouldn’t expect a keeper to make. All his ‘good’ saves are regulation, ones you would expect a professional goalkeeper to make. 
 

Take Sunday for instance, before Man Utd took the lead, De Gea had already made 2 superb saves, one from Barnes and one from Iheanacho, Ward would not have made either of those and his positioning for both of Rashfords one on ones was absolutely awful. Somehow he has the ability to make the goal appear bigger in these instances rather than narrowing the angles. 
 

he is by far and away the poorest of the starting goalkeepers in the premier league and I would go as far as to say many back ups are superior to our No1 

Iheanacho's header wasn't that powerful in my view. Bread and butter save. 

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The thing that gets my goat about angles, which Ward struggles massively with, is that it's something that can be taught. Like there will be a point on the pitch that is mathematically, objectively the best place to stand to give one the best chance of blocking a shot or inducing a shot off target from any given position, factoring in time and distance etc. It's not a natural thing that only comes with gift. With drilling and study you could teach someone off here where to put themselves.

 

I'm not suggesting it's easy but do they do not do any specialist goalkeeper stuff on the training ground? It certainly doesn't look like it.

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1 hour ago, FoxTimmy2 said:

That game brings back some dreadful  memories.


Replacing Kasper with Ward is like trading in a Porsche for a bicycle with a flat tire.

And that’s being kind !!

His displays since taking the No1 shirt have cost us far too many points we should have taken, yes you can blame the defence too but some of his attempted saves have at times been comical and incompetent let’s give Iverssen a few games he’s shown some real quality when called upon !

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I would think that at 29 Danny knows everything there is to know about goalkeeping. Knowing it and doing it under extreme pressure however are very different things. A great goalkeeper stays cool and assesses every possibility. However the Pat Jennings of this world are extremely rare. Its quite likely we will try half a dozen goalkeepers before we get it right.

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5 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I cannot remember Ward making a worldie save or one that you wouldn’t expect a keeper to make. All his ‘good’ saves are regulation, ones you would expect a professional goalkeeper to make. 
 

Take Sunday for instance, before Man Utd took the lead, De Gea had already made 2 superb saves, one from Barnes and one from Iheanacho, Ward would not have made either of those and his positioning for both of Rashfords one on ones was absolutely awful. Somehow he has the ability to make the goal appear bigger in these instances rather than narrowing the angles. 
 

he is by far and away the poorest of the starting goalkeepers in the premier league and I would go as far as to say many back ups are superior to our No1 

This is it for me. You would expect goalkeepers starting in the Premier League every week to have a worldie save up their arse or a game or two where they look immense but Ward never does. He doesn't gain the side any points at all. He's just mediocre in every aspect.

 

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4 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

This is it for me. You would expect goalkeepers starting in the Premier League every week to have a worldie save up their arse or a game or two where they look immense but Ward never does. He doesn't gain the side any points at all. He's just mediocre in every aspect.

 

Everton away at 1-0 up. But yeah slim pickings 

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10 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

I would think that at 29 Danny knows everything there is to know about goalkeeping. Knowing it and doing it under extreme pressure however are very different things. A great goalkeeper stays cool and assesses every possibility. However the Pat Jennings of this world are extremely rare. Its quite likely we will try half a dozen goalkeepers before we get it right.

He’s more Butcher than Jennings 

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12 hours ago, bovril said:

I know it's a still photo which can often be misleading but a few times this season I've seen photos of teams scoring against us and Ward is in the most unexpected position or pose:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64614427

The club should introduce a weekly Spot the Ward competition to bring in much needed funds.

 

To buy a new keeper.

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If Iversen had made the same mistakes Ward had, he would have been dropped incredibly quickly. Even now, Iversen’s played more career games.

 

We’d be at least 5 points better off if we’d have put faith in the younger, better keeper.

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I try time and again to believe that Rodgers has some kinda logic here other than simple stubbornness. But for the life of me can't see what the logic must be. 

 

Even allowing for the likeliest logic - that Iversen is visibly and considerably worse in training than Ward - it wouldn't be the first time a manager will have rolled the dice on a poor trainer. 

 

Rodgers has shown there are no sacred cows, until Ward that is. Maddison, Tielemans, Wilf, Vards, Castagne, Ricardo, Barnes have all been dropped at some point. Perhaps Evans remains the only player never to have been dropped due to form. Baffling. 

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