Danny Ward

[cropstonfox]

7 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Even Guardiola or Klopp won’t fix Ward. When he dives it’s like watching in slow motion. A manager can’t just “fix” that. He’s nowhere near PL level, a new manager isn’t going to magically teach him basic reaction times overnight.

They might give him a diet sheet though!

He could do with shedding a stone .

That's why he's slow down

 

[Sampson]

10 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

They might give him a diet sheet though!

He could do with shedding a stone .

That's why he's slow down

 

What does losing a stone have to do with your diving reaction times? 

[sacreblueits442]

16 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

No.

 

Goalkeeper is the one position that isn't affected by the manager. His job is to just save the ball from going in the net. A manager's instructions doesn't limit him from doing that, but his ingrained lack of ability does.

...the managers instructions are paramount to the way he wants his team to play!!!

  If you have little confidence in your Keeper you start to take on other responsibilities to mitigate such difficiences. Being proficient with the ball at his feet and being a big part of the retention of the ball at the back comes back to the managers instructions.

  You cannot separate the Keeper from the rest of the team.

[turtmcfly]

23 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

They might give him a diet sheet though!

He could do with shedding a stone .

That's why he's slow down

 

 

Makes me think of (not-even-that-)-late-period Neville Southall whenever I see him. He's like a throwback to a different era of goalkeeping. 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

17 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...the managers instructions are paramount to the way he wants his team to play!!!

  If you have little confidence in your Keeper you start to take on other responsibilities to mitigate such difficiences. Being proficient with the ball at his feet and being a big part of the retention of the ball at the back comes back to the managers instructions.

  You cannot separate the Keeper from the rest of the team.

Total rubbish as usual 👍

[sacreblueits442]

Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Total rubbish as usual 👍

...why!!!

[splinterdream]

Could be that it's all in his head, he's overthinking everything which makes him too hesitant and his reactions too slow. Apart from Forest the games he played for his he always looked alright, probably due to being more relaxed, this is maybe why Rodgers persists, but we can't afford to persist, we have (or had) a keeper full of confidence, ward needs some game time with the u23s 

[Paninistickers]

Regardless of the Ward v Iversen ability debate (as clearly, even tho lots of us side with iversen, it is an opinion thing as tho who's better), Ward simply being there sets the wrong tone. 

 

Having a younger, ambitious (and with greater physicality) goalkeeper in the line up strikes the right tune that life moves on after Kasper and we are prepared to nurture the next in line, even allowing allowing for deficiencies. 

 

By selecting Ward, it's a visible admission of failure and declining standards. The whole vibe is off. 

[cropstonfox]

The initial movement is quicker if the mass is less.

Also extra weight limits  flexibility and suppleness.

Old time goalies did carry a bit of timber.

Nev Southall and our own Mark Wallington.

Need to be athletic in this era!

[Paninistickers]

Just now, cropstonfox said:

The initial movement is quicker if the mass is less.

Also extra weight limits  flexibility and suppleness.

Old time goalies did carry a bit of timber.

Nev Southall and our own Mark Wallington.

Need to be athletic in this era!

I think Nick Pope is a good example. The guy didn't have the physique of a elite performace athlete at first. Now he's cultivated a lean 'tennis' type physicality, presumably via long hard hours of conditioning - as if prepping to do 90 mins outfield or 4 hours on court. All for that one save he may (or may not) have to make in a match

[nnfox]

A big part of it is the mentality.  He needs to think like a number 1 keeper, train like a number 1 keeper, play like a number 1 keeper, act like a number 1 keeper and stop thinking his career is about being a number 2 keeper.  He's not filling in anymore.  He needs to step up.

 

If he doesn't grasp this soon, he'll regret it for life.

[Haywood_6]

I feel a bit sorry for him actually. I think he's an example of a player who's confidence is shot to pieces. He looks like a Sunday league goalkeeper at the moment but it's not all his fault. It's the way we set up as a team, our full backs pushing up too high, leaving huge open spaces that the opposition can attack when we lose the ball.

 

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, cropstonfox said:

They might give him a diet sheet though!

He could do with shedding a stone .

That's why he's slow down

 

He learnt from the best 

[Area88]

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

No.

 

Goalkeeper is the one position that isn't affected by the manager. His job is to just save the ball from going in the net. A manager's instructions doesn't limit him from doing that, but his ingrained lack of ability does.

This isn't actually true. A lot of managers tell their goalkeeper to be the 5th defender. A type of sweeper keeper where they are encouraged to defend on the outside of their box. A goalkeeper is also encouraged to come out of the box and give away a free kick rather than a penalty etc etc. This is standard management.

[HankMarvin]

7 minutes ago, nnfox said:

A big part of it is the mentality.  He needs to think like a number 1 keeper, train like a number 1 keeper, play like a number 1 keeper, act like a number 1 keeper and stop thinking his career is about being a number 2 keeper.  He's not filling in anymore.  He needs to step up.

 

If he doesn't grasp this soon, he'll regret it for life.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt till we saw enough to judge him, unfortunately you can’t polish a turd.

Time to give Iversen a go 

[TJB-fox]

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

No.

 

Goalkeeper is the one position that isn't affected by the manager. His job is to just save the ball from going in the net. A manager's instructions doesn't limit him from doing that, but his ingrained lack of ability does.

Disagree strongly. 

We all know Br likes his teams to play out from the back, at our expense this season. Rumours are he’s backed Ward to be number one because he’s supposedly better with his feet than Iversen.

 

When playing out from the back this season, Ward has looked terrible and very nervous. Misplaced passes, putting defenders under pressure, kicking it out for throw-ins etc etc has all culminated in our defence looking shit scared to have Ward behind them. Can’t be good for his confidence either. 
 

Im not saying forego any tactical instructions in place from the manager but in some games this season we’ve heaped pressure on ourselves by Ward trying to play out from the back at all costs, presumably BR’s instructions. Brighton a great example. 

[ParkerPen]

2 hours ago, turtmcfly said:

 

Makes me think of (not-even-that-)-late-period Neville Southall whenever I see him. He's like a throwback to a different era of goalkeeping. 

 

I know this isn't the point you were making, but Southall was quality even past when he should have been (given he carried some timber and some !)

also, a class act as a human being.

 

so yeh your point stands, but can we substitute say, er Kevin Pressman pls

[desertfox2]

I don't get any of the feeling sorry for him posts. He's a 29 year old Keeper paid bloody good money and had the easiest job going for years. He comes in and concedes 1 out of every 2 shots on goal and gives the defence no confidence on crosses or set pieces. Cream always rises to the top. Son gets dropped, comes on and scores a hattrick. That's how top players act. He has been given his chance to become a number 1 and he's not performed. It isn't over 1 game, he's had plenty of chances. If Iversen is a number 1 then we will give him a couple of games and he will make himself undroppable like all good players do when they get a chance.  Good goalkeepers are all a little bit crazy, you can't replicate the pressure in training. He's not good enough so he can sit on the bench and bank more money than most people earn in a couple of years every week warming the bench until his contract expires. Granted some of the online stuff is bordering on bullying and I hate all that kind of stuff but other than that no sympathy whatsoever, it's his job. 

[Htfox59]

Simply. Danny is just a very average keeper. Kasper stood behind a far inferior on paper, defence than this seasons and not conceded a third of the goals Danny has

[JamesWelshFox]

Ward is not the problem. Brendan I am sorry to say is the issue, he is destroying players confidence by asking them to do things they are not good at, square pegs into round holes. He has ruined Ndidi as a defensive shield and so the backline suffers, confidence is down the toilet across the backline, and then the keeper is just left horribly exposed. Ward didn't concede 6 at Spurs on his own.

[FoxinNotts]

He must be a 'confidence' player. Therefore, his confidence is shot to bits. He won't recover, so he needs to be ousted for Iversen.

[lcfc043]

Worst keeper we’ve ever had relative to the level. 

[Strawberry_Jam]

he's a nothing keeper...

he does nothing to command his box,

he does nothing to claim crosses that aren't down his throat

he does nothing to save one-on-ones

he does nothing to save shots that you wouldn't expect of him

he does nothing to inspire confidence

...

he does nothing.

 

[jim5000]

He’s just not a very good goalkeeper.

 

Ive said from the start of the season that he is Championship standard, but given his performances so far this season, even that may be generous to him.

[enmac]

On 19/09/2022 at 08:40, Lionator said:

Not that it makes much difference but I noticed Nice dropped Kasper yesterday. 

Buy him back.