Danny Ward

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

I don't mind either player, but I can be fair enough to see when one had made an error and the other hasn't. Ward is much maligned and in some cases rightly receives criticism, but let's not give him other player criticism too. As you admit you quite like the one player in this scenario, so I'd say you're judgement is clouded. I would say we can concluded from the previous game evidence I posted and the images of this instance that Ward is vocal and prepared to command a situation (whether is always the right choice and if he's always successful is another matter), and Castagne is a panicy player who loses composure in situations like this.

 

I would definitely say on a whole the fan base give Castagne a free ride and Ward gets torn apart, but they are both probably equally as bad as each other and are the weakest players in the team. But I think as a fan bases we should be giving credit where its due too, which we are terrible at doing. There are players who can do no right and players who get a free ride. 

Think there is some logic in what you say, even if I am still unwilling to conclude the fault lies primarily with Castagne, as there is no doubt fan favouritism is often on show. I did say and I did and do like Timmy, but you concluded this implied I did not like Danny, which is wrong. I inherently like all our players whilst they are our players.

[BillyFOX12]

2 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

I strongly disagree. We seem to get comments like this after games where he doesn’t have to do much. 

 

i’ve never seen a top league keeper so inept on a 1 v 1 situation.  He looks lost, never seems to know what to commit to, he’s easy to just take it round. He flaps if they shoot.   I just think he’s a strikers dream and in truth that’s probably the part of the game a keeper earns their pay. save 1 out of 3 1 v1s and how many points does that earn your side over a season.  Genuinely could have been pushing for top 7 if kasper had stayed but we all knew he’d have to go eventually

 

I can’t understand people thinking he’s not that bad after games he’s made a few routine saves.  It is what it is until the end of the season, but we’ll still lose plenty because of him 

 

 

Which part of my comment are you disagreeing with?

We had a proper GK for more than a decade, the club has decided it's time to mix things up and has replaced Kasper with scooby doo in the net.

[Lambert09]

10 minutes ago, BillyFOX12 said:

Which part of my comment are you disagreeing with?

We had a proper GK for more than a decade, the club has decided it's time to mix things up and has replaced Kasper with scooby doo in the net.

the ‘he’s not that bad’ part 

[MPH]

2 hours ago, Facecloth said:

You said Castagne was waiting for him to collect, which is why I pointed that out. He does take control, he's there swinging his foot to clear until Castagne takes it past him. The only indecisive one was was Castagne. 

 

Look he's not a great keeper, but can we not start putting other players errors on him. As I said earlier there were people putting Faes's OG on him because apparently he didn't shout for it so isn't taking control. When there was irrefutable evidence that he did shout, he still got the blame for another players error. Just getting beyond the joke the levels of criticism that even other players mistakes are put on him. Even when he's there swinging to kick the ball away, it's his fault Castagne takes it off his toe.

 

Yeah, he's not a great keeper, yeah we need a new one in the summer, but some of you need to adjust your view because not everything is on him.

 

I think you’re missing what I’m saying. Neither of them should have left it to get to that stage… Castagne should have dealt with it earlier and Ward could have too. They both left it until it looked like an episode of keystone cops. Both made themelves look a bit silly. It was a mistake on BOTH parts.  I’m Harsh on Ward because I used to be a keeper. You just never leave a ball to be trickling into your hands like that. You clear it. End of. You command your defenders and the situation . Castagne can’t see what’s creeping behind him in a situation like that but Ward can ( thankfully nothing on this occasion) but you deal with it as a keeper and you get rid of the ball. One thing I dislike about Ward is that he isn’t authoritarian and doesn’t command the defense. It would make his job so much easier if he did. Part of it is confidence,,part of it  is that they don’t trust him.  situations like this don’t help and he’s got to win their trust.

[SheppyFox]

20 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

I think you’re missing what I’m saying. Neither of them should have left it to get to that stage… Castagne should have dealt with it earlier and Ward could have too. They both left it until it looked like an episode of keystone cops. Both made themelves look a bit silly. It was a mistake on BOTH parts.  I’m Harsh on Ward because I used to be a keeper. You just never leave a ball to be trickling into your hands like that. You clear it. End of. You command your defenders and the situation . Castagne can’t see what’s creeping behind him in a situation like that but Ward can ( thankfully nothing on this occasion) but you deal with it as a keeper and you get rid of the ball. One thing I dislike about Ward is that he isn’t authoritarian and doesn’t command the defense. It would make his job so much easier if he did. Part of it is confidence,,part of it  is that they don’t trust him.  situations like this don’t help and he’s got to win their trust.

All very true. Hopefully though he isn’t around for too long and he earns the trust of another clubs defence, as opposed to ours. 🤮

[Blueman1967]

3 hours ago, Parafox said:

Well, obviously we're not. That's something for the future. He isn't good enough to be a 1st team PL keeper. 

Don't you agree?

He what we have got at the moment, but yes they will probably get another keeper in the summer.

[It'sblueupnorth]

3 hours ago, Facecloth said:

And I think you 100% wrong. How can he be 100% at fault when he is there taking control and his own player stops him from doing so? Castagne is 100% at fault, he's the one who takes needless action and nearly scores an OG. People are simultaneously saying he should have held back to receive a pass but also should have come out quicker. The fact he's there in the action to clear it says he did the second one and his defender stopped him completing it. But remember this is the keeper who got the blame for both Faes and Souttars OGs  one was the defender messing up, the other a huge deflection. Someone also complained he didn't do anything last week when Buendia flicked a corner on at the near post (not an area any keeper is going to try go, it was flicked over everyone and hit the bar on the far side of the goal). I'm not sure if he should have left the goal completely to battle through all the players at the front post, lept 15ft in the air to catch the looping header, or magically transport himself to the far post to sit on the bar like a gnome on a toadstool ready to catch the ball before it hit the bar. Probably all three in most fans mind.

That was me and that wasn’t my point at all and you know it 😂 a few people have suggested that ward is better at corners than Schmeichel but we’re top of the goals against from set pieces and nearly (should have) conceded from corners in the last 3 weeks consecutively. We’re conceding corners at as bad of a rate if not worse than when Schmeichel was here, if Ward is so much better than him at that aspect of his game (Schmeichels biggest weakness) he’s not showing it because we’ve not improved in that area, and look even worse because Ward doesn’t like getting in the way of shots. Commanding your area at set pieces and organisation are as important as claiming high balls to avoid scenarios where the ball is being won at the front post. But Ward clearly isn’t commanding enough, I noticed from the free kick he saved yesterday he was still trying to sort his wall and they clearly weren’t listening to his instruction because they weren’t moving. Just because he starts waving at planes a lot at set pieces hasn’t improved our defence at them, we’re probably worse. 

[Facecloth]

12 minutes ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

That was me and that wasn’t my point at all and you know it 😂 a few people have suggested that ward is better at corners than Schmeichel but we’re top of the goals against from set pieces and nearly (should have) conceded from corners in the last 3 weeks consecutively. We’re conceding corners at as bad of a rate if not worse than when Schmeichel was here, if Ward is so much better than him at that aspect of his game (Schmeichels biggest weakness) he’s not showing it because we’ve not improved in that area, and look even worse because Ward doesn’t like getting in the way of shots. Commanding your area at set pieces and organisation are as important as claiming high balls to avoid scenarios where the ball is being won at the front post. But Ward clearly isn’t commanding enough, I noticed from the free kick he saved yesterday he was still trying to sort his wall and they clearly weren’t listening to his instruction because they weren’t moving. Just because he starts waving at planes a lot at set pieces hasn’t improved our defence at them, we’re probably worse. 

If you are using that Villa corner as a criticism of any goalkeeper you clearly have an agenda. No point bringing it up, the keeper is completely out play from a corner like that. He can't claim it at the front post and he's not gonna be sat on the bar when it hits it at the far post. Make your points about commands of the area and our set piece record all you want, but when you start using situations like that as though they highlight the quality of the keeper you let you whole argument down.

 

And the free kick you mean the one in screenshot below where we'll before the kick is taken he's doing nothing of what you suggest. Just making stuff up now to make him look bad. It's joke, seriously.

[Facecloth]

57 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

I think you’re missing what I’m saying. Neither of them should have left it to get to that stage… Castagne should have dealt with it earlier and Ward could have too. They both left it until it looked like an episode of keystone cops. Both made themelves look a bit silly. It was a mistake on BOTH parts.  I’m Harsh on Ward because I used to be a keeper. You just never leave a ball to be trickling into your hands like that. You clear it. End of. You command your defenders and the situation . Castagne can’t see what’s creeping behind him in a situation like that but Ward can ( thankfully nothing on this occasion) but you deal with it as a keeper and you get rid of the ball. One thing I dislike about Ward is that he isn’t authoritarian and doesn’t command the defense. It would make his job so much easier if he did. Part of it is confidence,,part of it  is that they don’t trust him.  situations like this don’t help and he’s got to win their trust.

I'm not repeating myself. The amazing thing about a forum is if you haven't replied in like 12 hours you can read all the other post and see what's been covered . I've already covered the points you're making here.

Edited 12 February 2023 by Facecloth

[FoxTimmy2]

36 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

All very true. Hopefully though he isn’t around for too long and he earns the trust of another clubs defence, as opposed to ours. 🤮

What other club would realistically want him? I doubt any club in the Championship would be interested, we've basically opened up pandora's box with Danny Ward, considering he started only 3 PL games in the last 7 years prior to this season.

 

He's proven himself to be cannon fodder for strikers, unsellable in my opinion.

[It'sblueupnorth]

7 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

If you are using that Villa corner as a criticism of any goalkeeper you clearly have an agenda. No point bringing it up, the keeper is completely out play from a corner like that. He can't claim it at the front post and he's not gonna be sat on the bar when it hits it at the far post. Make your points about commands of the area and our set piece record all you want, but when you start using situations like that as though they highlight the quality of the keeper you let you whole argument down.

 

And the free kick you mean the one in screenshot below where we'll before the kick is taken he's doing nothing of what you suggest. Just making stuff up now to make him look bad. It's joke, seriously.

You’re just completely missing the point tbh 😂, if that was a one off occurrence then fair enough, but we’re conceding not necessarily goals but the same chances from corners every game, spurs had 2 very similar at the weekend and scored from 1, Villa hit the bar the week before. I’m not expecting him to grow to 15ft and stretch over everybody to claim it but it could be a coaching problem and the defenders aren’t listening to what they’re supposed to be doing and even if so, what is Ward doing to address that in game? After kristiansen cleared one of the line there was no shouting at defenders or telling them what to do he let the same thing happen again, the same as what happened at Villa the weak before. It’s weak and he’s part of the problem. 
What is that screenshot supposed to show 😂 he’s not going to be organising the wall as Son is  about to strike it 😂 he was stood on his lhs post organising his wall, then swapped to his rhs post and continued to shout instructions at the wall and they didn’t move a muscle. He then prepared for the shot. What he was shouting at the rhs post I don’t know but it didn’t seem like he was telling them they were in the right spot

[Facecloth]

3 minutes ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

You’re just completely missing the point tbh 😂, if that was a one off occurrence then fair enough, but we’re conceding not necessarily goals but the same chances from corners every game, spurs had 2 very similar at the weekend and scored from 1, Villa hit the bar the week before. I’m not expecting him to grow to 15ft and stretch over everybody to claim it but it could be a coaching problem and the defenders aren’t listening to what they’re supposed to be doing and even if so, what is Ward doing to address that in game? After kristiansen cleared one of the line there was no shouting at defenders or telling them what to do he let the same thing happen again, the same as what happened at Villa the weak before. It’s weak and he’s part of the problem. 
What is that screenshot supposed to show 😂 he’s not going to be organising the wall as Son is  about to strike it 😂 he was stood on his lhs post organising his wall, then swapped to his rhs post and continued to shout instructions at the wall and they didn’t move a muscle. He then prepared for the shot. What he was shouting at the rhs post I don’t know but it didn’t seem like he was telling them they were in the right spot

Perisic took the free kick mate. If you don't even know that how can I take you seriously. Clearly not a clue what's going on. I took the screenshot at the best moment I could to shows he's not instructing the wall right up to it being taken.

 

If the defence aren't defending the corner properly, that's them all as a collective, including Ward and the much sainted Faes not sorting it out. Its a coaching issue as we were awful last year too. Actually I think we are better from corners this year, I'm struggling to find specific goals conceded from corners stats for this season. Plenty for last season when Schmeichel was in goal as we were so bad people wrote articles about it. 19 goals from corners alone last season, 8 from set pieces this season. I don't think our total set piece goals conceded will pass our corner record from last season.

[BenTheFox]

Nothing against the bloke personally, but he's just not good enough. He's the worst starting goalkeeper in the league. We are a decent goalkeeper (not even a good one, just a decent one) away from having a very capable starting 11. Even though we will be losing Maddison and Tielemans in the summer, I would argue that a new goalkeeper should still be our main priority. 

[It'sblueupnorth]

Just now, Facecloth said:

Perisic took the free kick mate. If you don't even know that how can I take you seriously. Clearly not a clue what's going on. I took the screenshot at the best moment I could to shows he's not instructing the wall right up to it being taken.

 

If the defence aren't defending the corner properly, that's them all as a collective, including Ward and the much sainted Faes not sorting it out. Its a coaching issue as we were awful last year too. Actually I think we are better from corners this year, I'm struggling to find specific goals conceded from corners stats for this season. Plenty for last season when Schmeichel was in goal as we were so bad people wrote articles about it. 19 goals from corners alone last season, 8 from set pieces this season. I don't think our total set piece goals conceded will pass our corner record from last season.

Sorry I mistook the taker but I never said he was instructing them right up to when it was taken 😂 I said he was trying to organise them and they weren’t listening to what he was saying which they weren’t. He went to set up the wall on his lhs post, then after they were in position went to his rhs post and then started shouting more instructions which weren’t listened to. He then got himself into position. Don’t have a clue what he was shouting about on his rhs post but nobody moved and it didn’t seem like he was happy with that wall. 
People were writing articles about how bad we are at set pieces this season mate, it got that bad that we had to bring in a specialist set piece coach which initially did work wonders and we looked far more assured but have lapsed and gone back to normal. Imo we have a simply weak goalkeeper with no standout redeeming factors. He’s awful at shot stopping and an awful communicator which you can see by the amount of arguments he’s had with defenders, which will affect set pieces as well. We are still majorly susceptible from set pieces and that is with a set piece coach, the luxury kasper never had to work with.  And just because he’s better than kaspers worse season for us really isn’t saying much, it likely is a coaching issue and everyone is involved, but the standards were holding him to are rock bottom he simply isn’t good enough

[Facecloth]

4 minutes ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

Sorry I mistook the taker but I never said he was instructing them right up to when it was taken 😂 I said he was trying to organise them and they weren’t listening to what he was saying which they weren’t. He went to set up the wall on his lhs post, then after they were in position went to his rhs post and then started shouting more instructions which weren’t listened to. He then got himself into position. Don’t have a clue what he was shouting about on his rhs post but nobody moved and it didn’t seem like he was happy with that wall. 
People were writing articles about how bad we are at set pieces this season mate, it got that bad that we had to bring in a specialist set piece coach which initially did work wonders and we looked far more assured but have lapsed and gone back to normal. Imo we have a simply weak goalkeeper with no standout redeeming factors. He’s awful at shot stopping and an awful communicator which you can see by the amount of arguments he’s had with defenders, which will affect set pieces as well. We are still majorly susceptible from set pieces and that is with a set piece coach, the luxury kasper never had to work with.  And just because he’s better than kaspers worse season for us really isn’t saying much, it likely is a coaching issue and everyone is involved, but the standards were holding him to are rock bottom he simply isn’t good enough

No they haven't  link one.

 

First one I found from this season was literally about how we've improved this season, dated Nov 22 

Edited 12 February 2023 by Facecloth

[It'sblueupnorth]

31 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

No they haven't  link one.

 

First one I found from this season was literally about how we've improved this season, dated Nov 22 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-set-piece-coach-7478291.amp
From the mercury in September. The November articles come at a strange timing, almost like we employed a specialist set piece coach a month and a half before 😂

Quite scary reading that far back and realising we broke a prem record for the most goals conceded ever after 7 games with 22. Since then we’ve only conceded 16 which is an improvement but we still have the 4th most conceded in the league. Another advert to get rid of the wheely bin asap 👀

[Facecloth]

5 hours ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-set-piece-coach-7478291.amp
From the mercury in September. The November articles come at a strange timing, almost like we employed a specialist set piece coach a month and a half before 😂

Quite scary reading that far back and realising we broke a prem record for the most goals conceded ever after 7 games with 22. Since then we’ve only conceded 16 which is an improvement but we still have the 4th most conceded in the league. Another advert to get rid of the wheely bin asap 👀

That 22 is most goals conceded overall, we're talking about goals from set pieces, which we have made a significant improvement on. Try again.

[It'sblueupnorth]

5 hours ago, Facecloth said:

That 22 is most goals conceded overall, we're talking about goals from set pieces, which we have made a significant improvement on. Try again.

Oh that’s okay then 😂😂😂 significantly improved but still the worst in the league. Try again, why are your standards so low?

[Facecloth]

1 hour ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

Oh that’s okay then 😂😂😂 significantly improved but still the worst in the league. Try again, why are your standards so low?

They aren't but why if we've improved after changing keeper is it in the keeper that your blaming. Surely you should be crediting him with being part of the improvement.

[It'sblueupnorth]

7 hours ago, Facecloth said:

They aren't but why if we've improved after changing keeper is it in the keeper that your blaming. Surely you should be crediting him with being part of the improvement.

Going around in circles mate, we’re still extremely poor from set pieces, bottom of the league (or top if you’re a glass half full) from goals against at set pieces. HE is still poor from set pieces (as well as the team fair enough). What is there to praise? He is worse at every aspect of goalkeeping, but slightly better than our worst season at conceding set pieces. There really isn’t anything to praise and you’re going to the trenches to stick up for him about kaspers worst season, I can guarantee kaspers average goals against from set pieces isn’t as high as this years. He’s number 2 for Wales behind Wayne Hennessy ffs

[Facecloth]

1 hour ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

Going around in circles mate, we’re still extremely poor from set pieces, bottom of the league (or top if you’re a glass half full) from goals against at set pieces. HE is still poor from set pieces (as well as the team fair enough). What is there to praise? He is worse at every aspect of goalkeeping, but slightly better than our worst season at conceding set pieces. There really isn’t anything to praise and you’re going to the trenches to stick up for him about kaspers worst season, I can guarantee kaspers average goals against from set pieces isn’t as high as this years. He’s number 2 for Wales behind Wayne Hennessy ffs

But you are calling him out on the one aspect of his game that's he's better than he predecessor at. The one aspect we have improved on this season and you are somehow simultaneously criticising him but also admitting we've improved at it.

 

We're not the worst team for conceding from set pieces this season. If you're going to make a point do your research 

 

Also you seem to be confusing defending him against over critical people laying everything on him and praising him. I haven't once praised him, and said numerous times he needs replacing. But he's getting the blame for Castagne messing up, he's getting blame for Faes and Souttars OGs he's getting criticism for not being vocal even when theres evidence to prove he is, he's getting criticised making us the worst in the league at conceding from set pieces, when we've improved on last year when we actually were the worst, and we are no longer the worst. There's plenty wrong with Wards game, no need to give him other players criticism or make shit up to criticise him too.

Edited 13 February 2023 by Facecloth

[It'sblueupnorth]

50 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

But you are calling him out on the one aspect of his game that's he's better than he predecessor at. The one aspect we have improved on this season and you are somehow simultaneously criticising him but also admitting we've improved at it.

 

We're not the worst team for conceding from set pieces this season. If you're going to make a point do your research 

 

Also you seem to be confusing defending him against over critical people laying everything on him and praising him. I haven't once praised him, and said numerous times he needs replacing. But he's getting the blame for Castagne messing up, he's getting blame for Faes and Souttars OGs he's getting criticism for not being vocal even when theres evidence to prove he is, he's getting criticised making us the worst in the league at conceding from set pieces, when we've improved on last year when we actually were the worst, and we are no longer the worst. There's plenty wrong with Wards game, no need to give him other players criticism or make shit up to criticise him too.

Again going around in circles. Danny ward has been better at set pieces than Schmeichel in Schmeichels worst season for us, in a season we were utterly shite at defending set pieces. We still are shite at defending set pieces as evidenced since the restart from the World Cup and at the start of the season minus a 6 game spell. On average Schmeichel concedes less than this season before 2021/22.  The facts that are absolutely straight are that Ward is completely not up to this level, he’s still shite at set pieces which is supposed to be his best faucet, as is the rest of his game. The souttar og was his fault. The faes ogs not so much but the second was him doing his best as per to get out the way of a 1 on 1 and faes turning it in. Castagnes was a 50/50, both at fault but he definitely takes half of the blame and you can’t just emit him from cause because there is a recurring theme here and it involves multiple defenders and 1 goalkeeper. There is more evidence that he isn’t good at communicating and isn’t vocal because of how many players he’s had a spat with this season on the pitch. 
His game is honestly so depressing to watch compared to a great gk like we had in Schmeichel and I can’t just ignore his obvious drawbacks like you can, he’s the worst keeper we’ve had at this level and that includes the likes of RRZ, Ben Hamer and 58 yo Mark Schwarzer
 

 

[Tuna]

David Raya has a year left on his contract at the end of the season, would we be interested?

[Facecloth]

21 minutes ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

Again going around in circles. Danny ward has been better at set pieces than Schmeichel in Schmeichels worst season for us, in a season we were utterly shite at defending set pieces. We still are shite at defending set pieces as evidenced since the restart from the World Cup and at the start of the season minus a 6 game spell. On average Schmeichel concedes less than this season before 2021/22.  The facts that are absolutely straight are that Ward is completely not up to this level, he’s still shite at set pieces which is supposed to be his best faucet, as is the rest of his game. The souttar og was his fault. The faes ogs not so much but the second was him doing his best as per to get out the way of a 1 on 1 and faes turning it in. Castagnes was a 50/50, both at fault but he definitely takes half of the blame and you can’t just emit him from cause because there is a recurring theme here and it involves multiple defenders and 1 goalkeeper. There is more evidence that he isn’t good at communicating and isn’t vocal because of how many players he’s had a spat with this season on the pitch. 
His game is honestly so depressing to watch compared to a great gk like we had in Schmeichel and I can’t just ignore his obvious drawbacks like you can, he’s the worst keeper we’ve had at this level and that includes the likes of RRZ, Ben Hamer and 58 yo Mark Schwarzer
 

 

I. Am. Not. Ignoring. His. Drawbacks. I. Am. Saying. People. Are. Overly. Critical. 

 

Read it slowly you might understand it  You're the latest on my ignore list by the way, don't bother replying. Don't even have the humility to admit you make stats up to make him out to be worse then he is.

 

 

Edited 13 February 2023 by Facecloth

[MPH]

6 minutes ago, Tuna said:

David Raya has a year left on his contract at the end of the season, would we be interested?

 

we might have to join a long list of suitors! Heard Spurs were interested too as a Lloris replacement.