SouthStandUpperTier Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 As if Chelsea give 2 sh*ts about FFP. It won't affect clubs like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxOnWheels Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 10 minutes ago, Bordersfox said: Even if they pay the whole lot in installments say in the first year? See this is where FFP confuses me. They’ve probably paid a bit over the odds for the sake of being to spread it out, the only thing that makes sense to me to do it for is FFP as it’s highly probable that he could be not good enough for this league and then you’ve got a guy on your books for 8.5 years being paid a fortune! could easily of signed him gave him 4-5 years if he’s good then improve his contract extend it for another couple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Fox Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 Chelsea have given this guy an 8 and half year contract to get around ffp! Imagine if we had given some of our signings an 8 year contract we’d be going bankrupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Fox Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 2 minutes ago, FoxOnWheels said: They’ve probably paid a bit over the odds for the sake of being to spread it out, the only thing that makes sense to me to do it for is FFP as it’s highly probable that he could be not good enough for this league and then you’ve got a guy on your books for 8.5 years being paid a fortune! could easily of signed him gave him 4-5 years if he’s good then improve his contract extend it for another couple It’s just to spread his 90m transfer fee over more years however they still have to pay him the £100k per week for the whole time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 Arsenal have played a blinder with Mudryk to be honest. That is a ridiculous amount of money for someone unproven outside of Ukraine, feels like a ridiculous gamble and a bit of a dick swing from Chelsea for the sake of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 18 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: Arsenal have played a blinder with Mudryk to be honest. That is a ridiculous amount of money for someone unproven outside of Ukraine, feels like a ridiculous gamble and a bit of a dick swing from Chelsea for the sake of it. Todd Boehly turning Chelsea in to the new Everton and I'm here for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 9 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Todd Boehly turning Chelsea in to the new Everton and I'm here for it. I'll happily admit I'm not clued up on Ukrainian football bar a lovely stint at the old Dnipro on FM11 but it just seems a mad figure for someone who's played ~30 league games in a division like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabfox Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 (edited) . Edited 15 January 2023 by Jabfox Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 21 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: I'll happily admit I'm not clued up on Ukrainian football bar a lovely stint at the old Dnipro on FM11 but it just seems a mad figure for someone who's played ~30 league games in a division like that. There's a reason certain leagues are preyed upon for value for money and one of those reasons is because due to the level of football and the economy that the fees they can realistically demand are usually very favourable to wealthy leagues like ours. Once you start bowing down to paying best part of £70m for a player from a league like Ukraine then the games gone. Chelsea are a disgrace, they'll fail so so so badly in the long run on all of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 25 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: I'll happily admit I'm not clued up on Ukrainian football bar a lovely stint at the old Dnipro on FM11 but it just seems a mad figure for someone who's played ~30 league games in a division like that. It is bonkers. Obviously comparing him to Gray is marginally harsh but he's proven no significant end product outside Ukraine and is very very raw. I've seen him play in Europe a couple of times and he's just all pace. Not necessarily a bad thing but that alone isn't 90m worth of footballer. The money is incredible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samilktray Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 27 minutes ago, Finnegan said: It is bonkers. Obviously comparing him to Gray is marginally harsh but he's proven no significant end product outside Ukraine and is very very raw. I've seen him play in Europe a couple of times and he's just all pace. Not necessarily a bad thing but that alone isn't 90m worth of footballer. The money is incredible. I’ve told all my pals with great confidence that he’s a Ukrainian Demetria Gray so let’s all hope you’re right or my reputation will be in ruins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 Imagine spending £400m in 6 months and still having Connor Gallagher in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 So Todd ‘Amortisation’ Boehly really is a genius with his 7/8 year contracts after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 With the Chelsea contract situation, does this make it more difficult to offload players as its more expensive to buy out the remaining contract (mind you - we are rubbish at offloading players). Further surely it makes insurance much more expensive as well? With Chelsea's injury record, its going to be hilarious to see players run down these long contracts when no-one else wants them or they are injured. Or maybe Todd Boehly will be happy just to write them off if they are not working. Maybe i am being pessimistic, but can't help but feel we are entering a new era of disgusting money in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 12 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: With the Chelsea contract situation, does this make it more difficult to offload players as its more expensive to buy out the remaining contract (mind you - we are rubbish at offloading players). Further surely it makes insurance much more expensive as well? With Chelsea's injury record, its going to be hilarious to see players run down these long contracts when no-one else wants them or they are injured. Or maybe Todd Boehly will be happy just to write them off if they are not working. Maybe i am being pessimistic, but can't help but feel we are entering a new era of disgusting money in the game. I would hazard a guess that there are conditions in the contract to allow players to leave mid contract for some percentage value, and perhaps a similar exit stipulation for Chelsea, otherwise these contracts are fraught with peril for Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 (edited) It'd only take a small adjustment from UEFA and the PL to adjust the FFP rules so that 5 years is the maximum amortised time, regardless of contract length. Edited 15 January 2023 by The Bear 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanefox Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 21 hours ago, casablancas said: Better than Wilf and Mendy atm You know he's not a defensive midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casablancas Posted 15 January 2023 Share Posted 15 January 2023 1 hour ago, lanefox said: You know he's not a defensive midfielder Based on the last 2 months neither is Wilf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJQuik Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 Now we know which one of the big six is making way for Khashoggi Kickers FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 New Bournemouth owners buying Lorient, so this moves makes a lot of sense. Bad news for us, we are in a scrap against Bournemouth, have already lost to them and they are strengthening their team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbtcity Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 i don’t know if I should laugh or cry… imagine they pull this off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64288859 Sounds like Potter in on the pulse with whats going on at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safestandingfox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 Someone tell big Dan to put a word in and get him here instead, progress has halted a bit but looked a real talent last season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 On 15/01/2023 at 20:36, The Bear said: It'd only take a small adjustment from UEFA and the PL to adjust the FFP rules so that 5 years is the maximum amortised time, regardless of contract length. This is going to skew the market again. Really good players aren't going to sign 7/8 year contracts at the likes of Leicester and Wolves so our transfer fees paid, whilst lower in price, will be higher in terms of amortisation. We could sign a £45 million player and the likely maximum length of contract would be four years yet Chelsea or others could spend £70 million but drag it out over 7 or 8 years 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/12788237/explained-why-chelsea-are-handing-out-long-term-contracts-such-as-mykhailo-mudryks-eight-and-a-half-year-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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