New Manager? Who do you Want?

[CrispinLA in Texas]

3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...Arne Slot, Gasperini, Fischer, Potter, Van Bronckhorst is doing a great job with Rangers, got them to compete in Europe!!!

Before our trip to the Conference, he (Rodgers) could not get past the round of 32 with all the clubs he has managed. He is someone who does not learn, he does not believe he needs to.

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Arne Slot would be my no.1 and if we can't get him it would be Fischer 

[moore_94]

6 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Arne Slot would be my no.1 and if we can't get him it would be Fischer 

Other way around is better, Fischer first and then Slot 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

1 hour ago, TK95 said:

LOOK AT THE BODIES, LOOK AT THE HUMAN RUBBLE, BAH GOD TRIPLE AITCH YOU SON OF A BITCH

Edited 3 September 2022 by Miquel The Work Geordie

[Guest itude]

41 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

We wouldn’t need to offer the £10m a year that Rodgers is on, someone like Rose for example was earning £6m a year at Dortmund, which is what Hasenhuttl at Southampton is on.

 

I think you need to re-read what I wrote. I said how much better a position we will be in with regards wage bill, it will be reduced by a lot through a lot of expiring contracts which could gives us and a potential new manager more scope to operate with.

Ok that might be fine if all the financial issues are caused by one thing, the wage bill.

It seems however it is not, we are skint !

[Guest itude]

Dyche, Dyche, Dyche !

Get him in before Bournemouth do and stop farting about with "dream managers" who wont even look at us as we are at the moment.

[Guest itude]

And they will not be very happy about this and our current one point and bottom of the league position either.

Contract end dates :

Youri Tielemans Central Midfield	May 7, 1997 (25)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£49.50m
Caglar Söyüncü Centre-Back	May 23, 1996 (26)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£36.00m
Daniel Amartey Centre-Back	Dec 21, 1994 (27)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£9.00m
Ayoze Pérez Second Striker	Jul 29, 1993 (29)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£9.00m
Jonny Evans Centre-Back	Jan 3, 1988 (34)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£3.60m
Nampalys Mendy Defensive Midfield	Jun 23, 1992 (30)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£3.60m
Ryan Bertrand Left-Back	Aug 5, 1989 (33)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£2.70m

No money, danger of relegation, that lot above going for nowt in a year. Dreaming of Potter, Poch, Silva, Slot and so on is all very well but we need to wake up. Dyche is premier league proven, works great with limited resources and gets the best out of even mediocre players.Beggars cannot be choosers, and like it or not ,we are getting to that point.

Get him in quick, or Bournemouth will !

 

 

 

[foxinsox]

5 hours ago, itude said:

And they will not be very happy about this and our current one point and bottom of the league position either.

Contract end dates :

Youri Tielemans Central Midfield	May 7, 1997 (25)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£49.50m
Caglar Söyüncü Centre-Back	May 23, 1996 (26)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£36.00m
Daniel Amartey Centre-Back	Dec 21, 1994 (27)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£9.00m
Ayoze Pérez Second Striker	Jul 29, 1993 (29)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£9.00m
Jonny Evans Centre-Back	Jan 3, 1988 (34)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£3.60m
Nampalys Mendy Defensive Midfield	Jun 23, 1992 (30)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£3.60m
Ryan Bertrand Left-Back	Aug 5, 1989 (33)		Jun 30, 2023	-	£2.70m

No money, danger of relegation, that lot above going for nowt in a year. Dreaming of Potter, Poch, Silva, Slot and so on is all very well but we need to wake up. Dyche is premier league proven, works great with limited resources and gets the best out of even mediocre players.Beggars cannot be choosers, and like it or not ,we are getting to that point.

Get him in quick, or Bournemouth will !

 

 

 

Apart from Bertrand those are decent players, even if ones that don't work in Rogers system.

[MattTheOldFox]

Rob Tanner has said that Brendan is not on anywhere near £10mil a year, that figure includes bonuses he didn’t get for missing targets. 

[Guest itude]

Yes, agreed Bertrand was foolish move, I saw what the Southampton fans said on their fan website,and he and Vesternotverygood made them laugh their socks off.

The point is that all of them will be going for nothing in 9-10 months time. Rodgers clearly cannot get the best out of most of them, so where does that leave us if he is still here then ?

I think Scott Parker got treated a bit harshly, but Rodgers ??? seems to have more than 9 lives and "up top" must take the responsibility for that.

Edited 3 September 2022 by itude

[Guest itude]

Just now, MattTheOldFox said:

Rob Tanner has said that Brendan is not on anywhere near £10mil a year, that figure includes bonuses he didn’t get for missing targets. 

If he is right, what exactly are we waiting for then ?

I don't get it if that is the case, has he hypnotised the board and Top or something ?

[MattTheOldFox]

Just now, itude said:

If he is right, what exactly are we waiting for then ?

I don't get it if that is the case, has he hypnotised the board and Top or something ?

No idea, lack of decent alternatives I guess. 

[Buzzell]

7 hours ago, itude said:

Dyche, Dyche, Dyche !

Get him in before Bournemouth do and stop farting about with "dream managers" who wont even look at us as we are at the moment.

Sean Dyche is not the answer of our problems. Get a grip ffs 🤦‍♂️ 

[Guest itude]

Really, care to tell us your crazy dreams of the messiah who will then ?

[Vazman]

11 hours ago, Tuna said:

Dyche and Benitez being suggested, why would we want managers who were sacked because they had their teams in or around the relegation zone most of last season?

 

How many league wins between the two of them did they have last season?

Last season, we may as well stick with Brendan then

[Fred the Fox]

5 minutes ago, itude said:

Really, care to tell us your crazy dreams of the messiah who will then ?

Have to agree, Dyche will do a job here and now, always hit and miss with foreigners new to the prem. 

[mod hero]

4 minutes ago, itude said:

Really, care to tell us your crazy dreams of the messiah who will then ?

If we got Dyche we’d have to abandon all the work from the last 4-5 years. We’ve bought players to play a certain style. Granted that style not been good recently.

 

Dyche like to play long ball to two 6ft 3 strikers.

absolutely no chance he fits with the current squad.

 

And hes an absolute cretin

[Beechey]

14 hours ago, LFox99 said:

I've now actually chatted about this with a Burnley fan I know.

He said that Dyche was a victim of his own success in a way. Dyche managed to keep Burnley up time and time again with a very average squad which basically lead to Burnley's old owners not laying out any funds because they thought Dyche could just keep doing the same forever. He also said that back when Dyche had Burnley finishing in Europe and top half, that there were consistent glimpses of what he can do when he's got at least the odd technically gifted player available. It's tough to play anything else than 442 Brexit ball with the players he had at his disposal and even then he tried to make it work at times. 

It’s nonsense. During his 9 year tenure, Dyche had an average of roughly £25m to spend per window. From 2016-2021, he spent about £170m.
 

We’ve seen the style change they’ve managed under Kompany within a few months with a single transfer window, spending £21m.

 

Yes, it’s a worse league, and they’ve signed a decent number of players, but it’s not an entirely new squad. He could have attempted a less atrocious approach to his style of play, but he never did.

 

We’ve seen teams come up, not spend that much and try to play better football.

 

If he deemed that he had to play hideous football because that’s the only way he could get points, that’s on him as a coach.

Edited 3 September 2022 by Beechey

[Ricey]

This always happens when a manager isn’t doing well, a large proportion of our fans start calling for the polar opposite type of manager in the hope that they improve our current weaknesses. It would be a crazy way to run a football club, just flitting from one extreme to another.

 

Sean Dyche probably would improve some of those weaknesses in the short term, but at what cost? The club are trying to put themselves in a position to be able to challenge the elite in the longer term, what message would it send out if we hired Sean ****ing Dyche?

 

He was another one that we did a talk with at work and he seemed nice but he is a dinosaur. He was incredibly sceptical about the importance of things like data, sports science etc. He spent a lot of the time downplaying those things and taking pride in the fact that Burnley did things in a more simplistic, old school way.

 

We are only 5 matches into the season, we don’t need to go nuclear just to keep us up.

[Fred the Fox]

2 minutes ago, Beechey said:

It’s nonsense. During his 9 year tenure, Dyche had an average of £20m-£30m to spend per window. We’ve seen the style change they’ve managed under Kompany within a few months with nowhere near that budget.

In the championship. Just think Dyche has not had his big chance at a decent club yet. 

[Muzzy_no7]

People seriously suggesting Dyche and then also comparing to Howe.

 

Two very different people, with very different ideas..

[Beechey]

Just now, Fred the Fox said:

In the championship. Just think Dyche has not had his big chance at a decent club yet. 

Great, are we just supposed to believe him when he says that’s not his style? He just happens to have always played that style for the last decade. Why would we take his word for it when there are better options available?

[Mr Weller 2]

I don’t doubt part of the reason for Rodgers still being in post is that the right person to replace him isn’t immediately obvious. They will have a good idea who might be available but it’s no use sacking a manager without having a good alternative and we don’t know where they are with that. 
 

Of course if things get too bad they’ll have to sack him anyway but they’re trying to avoid leaving us rudderless until they have a plan for what happens next. 

[Guest itude]

8 minutes ago, mod hero said:

If we got Dyche we’d have to abandon all the work from the last 4-5 years. We’ve bought players to play a certain style. Granted that style not been good recently.

 

Dyche like to play long ball to two 6ft 3 strikers.

absolutely no chance he fits with the current squad.

 

And hes an absolute cretin

Ok ,so you want us too keep on doing the same thing over and over, and expect a different result then ?

The result will be relegation

Who care if any new manager is a cretin, as long as they keep us up

Do you prefer "nice Rodgers and relegation " ?

[Blue-fox]

With Dyche, he had to play a brand of football with the players/resources he had at his disposal. 
 

maybe with a better footballing side, he can adapt and still sure up the defence. He wouldn’t be able to play long hall football as we don’t have a target man striker. 
 

Also there’s a difference between long ball football and direct football. I think Liverpool play a direct attacking game, they get the ball forward as quick as they can but you wouldn’t class them as a long ball team. 

[Guest itude]

6 minutes ago, Ricey said:

This always happens when a manager isn’t doing well, a large proportion of our fans start calling for the polar opposite type of manager in the hope that they improve our current weaknesses. It would be a crazy way to run a football club, just flitting from one extreme to another.

 

Sean Dyche probably would improve some of those weaknesses in the short term, but at what cost? The club are trying to put themselves in a position to be able to challenge the elite in the longer term, what message would it send out if we hired Sean ****ing Dyche?

 

He was another one that we did a talk with at work and he seemed nice but he is a dinosaur. He was incredibly sceptical about the importance of things like data, sports science etc. He spent a lot of the time downplaying those things and taking pride in the fact that Burnley did things in a more simplistic, old school way.

 

We are only 5 matches into the season, we don’t need to go nuclear just to keep us up.

Oh well, all we have to do is ask Misters Potter and Pochettino very nicely and I am sure they will both jump at the chance.

Gawd the unrealism of some on here is just staggering