SheppyFox Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 (edited) What I would say is; even if we went down, Top would see us straight back up. You seem to have forgotten the strength of the man? His Dad burnt alive outside the ground lest we forget and he assumed the reigns prematurely, he’s done very well for a young businessman. In short, he is a titan both in business terms and personal terms. Edited 28 August 2022 by SheppyFox 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 @StanSP the buck always ultimately stops at the top, it always does. This in no way demeans what amazing things Vichai or Top have achieved. But on Top….we don’t know, cannot see the reality of the situation, what conversations have been had, and we should never expect too, it’s not a reality show. Top will do what needs to be done if and when it needs to be done, he deserves our trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 On a positive not Forset we're bottom of the championship this time last year and so we're arsenal bottom of the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sol thewall Bamba Posted 28 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 28 August 2022 28 points from 24 games in the PL this calendar year. 9 of those points were against teams on the beach/relegated at the end of last season. We are shit and getting worse. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 Crystal Palace lost their first 6 games one season, under Hodgson I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest itude Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 (edited) Please stop exaggerating comments about Top, no one has done much more than ask where he is on our situation at the moment. It would be helpful to know.You are only distracting from the main person responsible for this mess...... So lets see what the big spenders up the road can do , may as well get my moneys worth from Sky Edited 28 August 2022 by itude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: 28 points from 24 games in the PL this calendar year. 9 of those points were against teams on the beach/relegated at the end of last season. We are shit and getting worse. To be fair I take that right now from 24 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 Just now, Dahnsouff said: @StanSP the buck always ultimately stops at the top, it always does. This in no way demeans what amazing things Vichai or Top have achieved. But on Top….we don’t know, cannot see the reality of the situation, what conversations have been had, and we should never expect too, it’s not a reality show. Top will do what needs to be done if and when it needs to be done, he deserves our trust I think this is both sane and respectful. I have been rodgers out for months... yet at the same time i do feel that Top will do what needs to be done. I was wondering if Top might prefer to wait until after the world cup... but maybe poor results will force his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny_wright Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 6 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Turning on top when we’d be at burton away next week without him is bloody hilarious Turning on Rodgers when we’ve won an FA cup is hilarious - for me this predicament is 50% Rodgers and 50% mismanagement from the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 (edited) Very worrying times. Fear it will get worse before it gets better, looking at the forthcoming fixtures. The early fixtures always looked tough on paper which is why beating Brentford and Southampton at home was so vital to keep us on an even keel before things got easier. Edited 28 August 2022 by Sunbury Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 I don't buy the argument that Top doesn't have the bollocks to sack Rodgers, or is unaware of what's happening. He sacked Puel less than three months after losing his dad; and Puel was pretty much universally agreed to have been superb in the wake of the tragedy, speaking eloquently and touchingly about Vichai, keeping the players' heads together in devastating circumstances and being the face of the club while Top mourned. He isn't some wet-behind-the-ears kid, and I suspect that Rodgers' departure isn't far from his mind. It won't be far from Whelan's either. If he lasts until Thursday at all, he'll be gone if we lose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 (edited) How much is down to Top or Ruskin I have no idea, but their clearly are issues and have been failings well above Rodgers’ head. The fact we let a long-standing goalkeeper go and couldn’t even replace him with another proper goalkeeper and so just promoted our back-up is worrying, as is the distinct lack of movement in replacements for Fofana. At some point, we’ve overspent on contracts and got into a position where we’re currently financially unsustainable and in a position where we have to cut back to the obvious detriment to the quality of our playing squad. Clearly people above Rodgers have to take a large share of the blame for this as well. He isn’t the one issuing our contracts. I want to see a new manager, but the way some of you are going on like everything will be solved once he goes reminds me of ManUtd fans with Moyes, then van Gaal, then Mourinho, then Solkjaer etc. etc. Our issues right now sadly run deeper than that and I think it’s going to many years of seeing our squad structurally get weaker and weaker without serious investment. I think some of you are seriously burying your heads in the sand over this and don’t want to admit there are serious issues here above Rodgers’ head alongside the obvious failings of Rodgers’ himself. Edited 28 August 2022 by Sampson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 13 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Turning on top when we’d be at burton away next week without him is bloody hilarious We actually are at Burton away next week… The under 21s but still 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest itude Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 8 minutes ago, jonny_wright said: Turning on Rodgers when we’ve won an FA cup is hilarious - for me this predicament is 50% Rodgers and 50% mismanagement from the board And how long does credit for doing that last exactly then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFox Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 Seems to be a lot of really bad / underperforming sides in the league this year. Cant see it taking much of a run to stay up from any team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 Just now, itude said: And how long does credit for doing that last exactly then ? That was his point. People were saying we can’t have ago at Top for things he achieved several years ago, he was turning it back on them with Rodgers to show that it’s a silly attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 12 minutes ago, itude said: Please stop exaggerating comments about Top, no one has done much more than ask where he is on our situation at the moment. It would be helpful to know.You are only distracting from the main person responsible for this mess...... So lets see what the big spenders up the road can do , may as well get my moneys worth from Sky Agree nobody should give Top a hard time on our recent issues, but to blame a manager he employed yet vindicate him of responsibility is a little double standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest itude Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Agree nobody should give Top a hard time on our recent issues, but to blame a manager he employed yet vindicate him of responsibility is a little double standards It would be helpful to know where he stands, or is thinking at the moment, then we need not speculate. Vacuums tend to lead to that, for understandable reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 21 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: To be fair I take that right now from 24 games. Doesn't really matter how you break down our run rate in terms of points, it's getting worse and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 27 minutes ago, nnfox said: People need to get a grip. We're 4 games in and two of those have been Arsenal and Chelsea away. This thread should be suspended until we find ourselves 4 or 5 points from safety or bottom in late October. Right now we're 6 points off of European football. Form has to improve, no question, but it will. Even if Brendan stays. This argument is just ridiculous because it completely ignores anything thats happened previously. Our form: Last 6 games: 15th - 6 points. Last 10 games: 15th - 10 points. Last 6 home games: 14th - 6 points. Last 6 away games: 13th - 6 points. Final 10 games of last season: 11th - 14 points. Although it's important to remember we played Watford away who were already down and one of the worst performances I've ever seen. Looking at a point a game and have another tough match coming up on Thursday. If we wait until the end of October before acting it might already be too late. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 23 minutes ago, Tuna said: Crystal Palace lost their first 6 games one season, under Hodgson I think. How is that relevant to our current situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 Just now, itude said: It would be helpful to know where he stands, or is thinking at the moment, then we need not speculate. Vacuums tend to lead to that, for understandable reasons. Yes it would, but this isn’t a reality show, we should not expect time to made available to sate our thirst for the minutiae 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said: How is that relevant to our current situation? 2 more games to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 22 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: 28 points from 24 games in the PL this calendar year. 9 of those points were against teams on the beach/relegated at the end of last season. We are shit and getting worse. Yeah but don't worry, the form will improve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 August 2022 Share Posted 28 August 2022 Why do people keep banging on in terms of ‘we’ll score enough goals’? Just like last season… we DO score goals. The problem is fookin conceding goals! Just like last season. The only time we stopped conceding as many goals last season was when (and here’s a clue) we were able to drop Amartey and Soyuncu and play Evans with Fofana. This team has goals in it, but that’s not the issue! If we don’t sort the defence out, we’ll get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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