coolhandfox Posted 14 April 2023 Share Posted 14 April 2023 On 12/04/2023 at 16:12, The Bear said: Correct. No team has survived in the PL when sacking their manager after March. 12/12 IIRC. Just means it has to happen sooner or later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 14 April 2023 Share Posted 14 April 2023 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Just means it has to happen sooner or later. Unfortunately that's not how statistics/probability works! If its a small enough probability then you will be waiting a long time for it to happen. However, given how tight the league is this season then there's more likelihood of it happening as a smaller swing in overall performance is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 10 hours ago, The Bear said: Unfortunately that's not how statistics/probability works! If its a small enough probability then you will be waiting a long time for it to happen. However, given how tight the league is this season then there's more likelihood of it happening as a smaller swing in overall performance is needed. Weren’t we the first team to go into Christmas break in last place, and then escape relegation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damolcfc Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 The way things are going with injuries... I'm putting my house on notts forist beating man u!!! FFS..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 11 hours ago, The Bear said: Unfortunately that's not how statistics/probability works! If its a small enough probability then you will be waiting a long time for it to happen. However, given how tight the league is this season then there's more likelihood of it happening as a smaller swing in overall performance is needed. I don’t thing you’ll find a PL season as tight as this one for some time. A few teams with just a couple of defeats could be right back into it again. I mean, as ridiculous as it is, if we can win three games in a row, we could end up mid table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardyfox86 Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 21 minutes ago, marbles said: Weren’t we the first team to go into Christmas break in last place, and then escape relegation? Didn't WBA do it first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 2 minutes ago, wardyfox86 said: Didn't WBA do it first? Not sure - seem to remember that being the talk after we survived. Of course I’m old and my memory isn’t what it used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue army 1988 Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 54 minutes ago, marbles said: Weren’t we the first team to go into Christmas break in last place, and then escape relegation? Only two teams have ever been bottom on Christmas day and escaped relegation. WBA did it first and then us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 Going into last weekend I think the expectation was that we would close the gap, given the fixtures. The gap obviously widened and that's massively swung the chances of the drop for us. Going in to this weekend the expectation is that the gap will widen. If we can get out with a 3 point gap it would be huge, really need Fulham to turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fox Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 52 minutes ago, Number 6 said: Going into last weekend I think the expectation was that we would close the gap, given the fixtures. The gap obviously widened and that's massively swung the chances of the drop for us. Going in to this weekend the expectation is that the gap will widen. If we can get out with a 3 point gap it would be huge, really need Fulham to turn up. Not just Fulham but Spurs and Man U - could be a long weekend ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 I've made peace with it. The Championship can be fun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 7 minutes ago, Stinky said: I've made peace with it. The Championship can be fun We aren’t dead and buried yet , keep the Faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 Can see 3 wins and a draw being good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 Just now, Happy Fox said: We aren’t dead and buried yet , keep the Faith. I know I don't mean to sound defeatist. As detrimental to the club as relegation would be, it'd be a change of scenery, more of a level playing field, a new squad (can be said for if we stay up too I guess). Probably helps that we can say we came and we conquered. It's not as though we've been perennial strugglers the past 9 years with no success. Then next year we can celebrate returning to the same league that I'm not gutted to have left the previous year. It's a weird game (It's a weird mindset too, I know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 4 minutes ago, Stinky said: I know I don't mean to sound defeatist. As detrimental to the club as relegation would be, it'd be a change of scenery, more of a level playing field, a new squad (can be said for if we stay up too I guess). Probably helps that we can say we came and we conquered. It's not as though we've been perennial strugglers the past 9 years with no success. Then next year we can celebrate returning to the same league that I'm not gutted to have left the previous year. It's a weird game (It's a weird mindset too, I know) Truest relegation would be no “jolly” for a season. It could land the club in serious trouble. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 Just now, Pliskin said: Truest relegation would be no “jolly” for a season. It could land the club in serious trouble. Yas that's why I acknowledged at the start that it would be bad for us. And I should probably also reiterate that I'm not wishing for relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 The situation isn’t as bad as it seems on face value. Todays game is more or less a write off, but because things are so close one team who hits form will get out of it…. Otherwise every team will have to hit form to survive. A lot of us are playing one another, so there’s a chance to drag other back into it again. It could well end up being no club is confirmed relegated until the end of play on the final game. Plenty more twists and turns to come, but I’ve now got genuine belief we can turn it around, mainly because we’ve got players capable of winning games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 Oh yeah I’m fully expecting us to be 5 points adrift by this evening. It’s what comes after and how we approach it that will be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFCJohn Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 13 minutes ago, Stinky said: I know I don't mean to sound defeatist. As detrimental to the club as relegation would be, it'd be a change of scenery, more of a level playing field, a new squad (can be said for if we stay up too I guess). Probably helps that we can say we came and we conquered. It's not as though we've been perennial strugglers the past 9 years with no success. Then next year we can celebrate returning to the same league that I'm not gutted to have left the previous year. It's a weird game (It's a weird mindset too, I know) I get what you mean and it’s not necessarily defeatist but looking for the positive should the worst happen. Of course we want to stay up but it’d be fun in its own way. Probably like you say, just the desire to see a new squad put together which happens hopefully at either level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 Think we have to accept our position will probably worsen this weekend. The week coming up was always going to be pivotal. Five winnable games after this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 6 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said: I get what you mean and it’s not necessarily defeatist but looking for the positive should the worst happen. Of course we want to stay up but it’d be fun in its own way. Probably like you say, just the desire to see a new squad put together which happens hopefully at either level. I just want us to be adventurous with who we appoint in the summer, especially if we get relegated. Go for that kettle bloke from Norway or some other sod that no one has heard of if he brings a good identity with him. Follow a Brentford/Brighton model where we sign talent from a certain area of the world. Put together a squad of shithouse Serbians. Only issue is a rebuild if we stay up probably means we have to play it safer with regard to a manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 35 minutes ago, Corky said: Think we have to accept our position will probably worsen this weekend. The week coming up was always going to be pivotal. Five winnable games after this. Exactly Man City will muller us today I guess Its what comes after that matters AND how the other teams around us get on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 4 hours ago, damolcfc said: The way things are going with injuries... I'm putting my house on notts forist beating man u!!! FFS..... Wash your mouth out Lad !!😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Corky said: Think we have to accept our position will probably worsen this weekend. The week coming up was always going to be pivotal. Five winnable games after this. I really think we’ll get a new manager bounce and could either lose by a single goal or at best get a draw out of this then drive on win next 5 games 2 more difficult Liverpool and Newcastle, really hoping the lads keep the spirits up if we go a goal down and play our hearts out like the Villa spurs and wolves wins previously ! Edited 15 April 2023 by justfoxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithuriel Posted 15 April 2023 Share Posted 15 April 2023 4 hours ago, blue army 1988 said: Only two teams have ever been bottom on Christmas day and escaped relegation. WBA did it first and then us Pretty sure we were dead and buried needing a run of wins that was champions form from our list nine games, so definitely something special that carried over into our title winning season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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