Beachyboy Posted 16 April 2023 Share Posted 16 April 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, RowlattsFox said: Rodgers takes a huge chunk of the blame obviously. Crested a negative culture and drained confidence that noone seems to be able to rescue. Not even sure he lost the dressing room, he just brainwashed them into believe they were the problem. But, the inability to invest in the squad for consecutive windows has lead to this. Whether it was Rodgers, or Rudkin inability to sign or sell anyone, I don't know. But lack of investment in the playing side will cost you eventually. If Nacho, Daka, Mendy, Praet, Iverson, Soyunchu, Vestegaard possibly even Soumare had been given a few more minutes, I'd have more sympathy for the lack of investment. We have a 25 man squad and we've only been mostly selecting from 17. When you consider injuries that then rules out Ricardo, Justin, Evans, Bertrand. So we have a 25 man squad and have only really used 13/25. 48% of the squad isn't being used. Edited 16 April 2023 by Beachyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 (edited) There have been talks of other big teams eying a bargain with our best players if we get relegated. Names such as Barnes, Maddison, Justin, Castagne have been mentioned. Of course, right now, we also have Tielemans and Soyuncu who are going on a free and will be well sought after. These are five top players who can walk into many teams. Then you have Ricardo, Nacho, Mendy who I highly rate. You also have other internationals - Ndidi (but he has been very poor), Mendy, Souttar, Faes, etc. It is unbelievable we can go down with this squad. Compare to other teams we should be comfortably in the top half of the table. What a mess Rodgers has left us in (and yes the Board should have acted in the summer when Rodgers made his position already untenable due to his comments on his players and the Board (and that is without even taking into account the decline he has already started two seasons before with the first choke and then the second choke). Edited 17 April 2023 by Tom12345 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblcfc84 Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 It’s a huge ask now after big results for Wolves, Bournemouth and West Ham. Desperately need Liverpool to win tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny_wright Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 Need to win 4 from 7 when we’ve won 7 all season, need to go from the leagues worst form team to one of the best! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 Liverpool win would make a fairly good set of results for us this weekend, given we went into it with the toughest fixture. Next weekend is massive as it could pull us back up into the pack a bit more. Surely Liverpool will be willing to let us beat them and send Everton down too? I see people are still vastly overrating Dyche too. Acting like the guy has never been relegated before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXSE Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 21 minutes ago, jonny_wright said: Need to win 4 from 7 when we’ve won 7 all season, need to go from the leagues worst form team to one of the best! And yet we are 2 points behind team who have won a similar amount all season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 We'll do it the hard way. Win our next 4 and lose against West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 To be honest if I were offered 35 points right now I'd take it. Not sure if it will be enough of not but I think if we land in the 33+ bracket then we have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 43 minutes ago, jonny_wright said: Need to win 4 from 7 when we’ve won 7 all season, need to go from the leagues worst form team to one of the best! Agree. But most teams, even us, string together three or four results on the spin at some point. We did earlier this season and went from adrift at the bottom on 1 point to 12th inside a month. That's what I'm clinging to. Might we just find some form right at the death? Might, say, Everton or West Ham falter right at the wrong moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFox Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 25 minutes ago, Number 6 said: Liverpool win would make a fairly good set of results for us this weekend, given we went into it with the toughest fixture. Next weekend is massive as it could pull us back up into the pack a bit more. Surely Liverpool will be willing to let us beat them and send Everton down too? I see people are still vastly overrating Dyche too. Acting like the guy has never been relegated before. Yeah Dyche basically sent Burnley down last season. Hard to blame him for them going in 2015 but last seasons relegation for Burnley was his doing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 54 minutes ago, jonny_wright said: Need to win 4 from 7 when we’ve won 7 all season, need to go from the leagues worst form team to one of the best! I reckon 3 wins and a draw might do it. The way it's going 35 points could well keep you up. I don't see those around you beating that Total with the run ins they have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 Well, Forest threw us a bit of a lifeline yesterday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 Forest have some tough fixtures coming up, I don’t see them staying up if they keep Cooper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitcher Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 Well I was convinced at the weekend that it was three from four. I've changed my mind after the game last night. It's three from five. I thought Leeds had enough spirit and attacking quality to get them out. They're involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 9 minutes ago, Twitcher said: Well I was convinced at the weekend that it was three from four. I've changed my mind after the game last night. It's three from five. I thought Leeds had enough spirit and attacking quality to get them out. They're involved. They’re more than involved - they’re disintegrating at exactly the right time. If we beat them next Tuesday (and there is no excuse not to), we will very likely finish above them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 2 wins and 3 draws keeps us up. Or 3 wins. Take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 52 minutes ago, Stevosevic said: 2 wins and 3 draws keeps us up. Or 3 wins. Take your pick. I think 3 wins and a draw does it. Surely achievable given the fixtures!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 35 minutes ago, 5waller5 said: I think 3 wins and a draw does it. Surely achievable given the fixtures!? Nothing I've seen in the previous 4 months (except that fantastic 2 game run of form vs. Spurs & Villa) makes it look achievable. But it can be done. If we fail to beat Wolves then we're down, we won't win 3 of the last 6 games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1 Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 Just now, Leicester_Loyal said: Nothing I've seen in the previous 4 months (except that fantastic 2 game run of form vs. Spurs & Villa) makes it look achievable. But it can be done. If we fail to beat Wolves then we're down, we won't win 3 of the last 6 games. Bang on - it’s all about Saturday- just win this 1 - win it and the belief and form could turn iv no doubt about it - unlikely we will be good enough over the last 7 but win on Saturday and things could change rapidly - it’s not probable but it’s certainly not impossible either 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 Wolves is the one. Lost this and the team will give up. Win it and they'll go on a run. It's make or break now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 In the great escape it was a 4 game win run that started it. We started that one after a spirited performance against a good Spurs team - a lot of what ifs had we taken our chances. We then went on to beat a good midtable team at home. After we faced two teams who were down there with us and another who were on course for a comfortable mid-table finish. Omens or clutching at straws, your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVIE B Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 1 hour ago, Stevosevic said: 2 wins and 3 draws keeps us up. Or 3 wins. Take your pick. 34 pts ? I think we need 36 minimum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 5 minutes ago, STEVIE B said: 34 pts ? I think we need 36 minimum. 35 might do it given our superior goal difference to the other four teams down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ely fox Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 15 minutes ago, ronnup said: Wolves is the one. Lost this and the team will give up. Win it and they'll go on a run. It's make or break now What about if it is a draw? A win is definitely needed because we are 2 points off the team above us and they are in the relegation zone aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 18 April 2023 Share Posted 18 April 2023 12 minutes ago, Ely fox said: What about if it is a draw? A win is definitely needed because we are 2 points off the team above us and they are in the relegation zone aswell. A win against Wolves and we'll be on fire. Lose and we'll freeze for the rest of the season. Draw and we'll be like lukewarm water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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