Aus Fox Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 Looking at it, if Leeds don’t get a win against Bournemouth, then I don’t think they get another point this season. Man City away, Newcastle at home, West Ham away and Spurs at home - hopefully Spurs need to win that for Europe. They are currently one point ahead with an inferior GD, not losing that game this week will be huge. Southampton still have to go to Newcastle and play Liverpool and Brighton, defeat tonight and they are 6 points adrift, with 15 to play for including three tough games. To survive, both will need to pull something magic out of their arses. That leaves us, Everton and Forest. If we beat Everton they will need to get 5 more points than we get from: Newcastle Man City Brighton Wolves Bournemouth I really think a win against Everton and we’re almost safe… Although, everytime I look at the table and fixtures I see something different 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza M Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 I think quite a bit of panic around just because Forest won last night. Lots of swings and roundabouts yet to go. Let's just think about Everton and getting 3 points Monday for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrefelderFox666 Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 How many of us would trade positions with Southampton, Everton, Leeds or Forest? That includes current points, position, games played and remaining fixtures. I would take ours every time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1983 Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 I truly believe we're lacking the necessary fighting spirit. It's disheartening to see Maddison and Tielemans all smiles and laughing during the Leeds match, while our club is fighting for survival. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrefelderFox666 Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 1 hour ago, KFS said: This is ****ing shit isn’t it? Occupying anyone else’s brain 24/7? The best thing you can do is try and switch off from it, as hard as it is. At least focus solely on our games, not watching goals/results trickle in while we don't play. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJQuik Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 1 hour ago, desertfox2 said: I'm surprised so many people think that losing to Fulham is a given. They've lost 6 out of their last 8 including Bournemouth and West Ham. It's a tough away game but we definitely have a chance against them. 2 wins in the next 2 is possible or definitely 4 points with the way we are playing. We couldn't get a win against Leeds, who had just been thrashed. Anything can happen though 🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 3 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Only just... Although I suppose 3 winning sequences vs 1, 1, 1 and 0 respectively isn't that bad Good chart. Look at the sea of red just above our last win. If only the board acted earlier. Sadler didn’t change the team at all - he was playing Rodgerball (guess this is why he survived as a coach under Rodgers) and playing Ndidi and leaving Nachos on the bench really costed us. In fact, the club should have lined up Deano (or whoever) as replacement for a while instead of leaving it til very late as an afterthought to find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 31 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: Looking at it, if Leeds don’t get a win against Bournemouth, then I don’t think they get another point this season. Man City away, Newcastle at home, West Ham away and Spurs at home - hopefully Spurs need to win that for Europe. They are currently one point ahead with an inferior GD, not losing that game this week will be huge. Southampton still have to go to Newcastle and play Liverpool and Brighton, defeat tonight and they are 6 points adrift, with 15 to play for including three tough games. To survive, both will need to pull something magic out of their arses. That leaves us, Everton and Forest. If we beat Everton they will need to get 5 more points than we get from: Newcastle Man City Brighton Wolves Bournemouth I really think a win against Everton and we’re almost safe… Although, everytime I look at the table and fixtures I see something different Thing is, Everton will be tougher to beat … and if we cannot beat Leeds this one is really going to be tough. It will be very scrappy. If we concede first, again, we are likely done for the season and be relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 20 minutes ago, Tom12345 said: Good chart. Look at the sea of red just above our last win. If only the board acted earlier. Sadler didn’t change the team at all - he was playing Rodgerball (guess this is why he survived as a coach under Rodgers) and playing Ndidi and leaving Nachos on the bench really costed us. In fact, the club should have lined up Deano (or whoever) as replacement for a while instead of leaving it til very late as an afterthought to find one. All they had to do was make the exact same managerial change, but immediately after the Brentford game (before the international break) and I think we'd be close to safe already. They would have had a mini preseason and 3 more matches. I doubt we would have gotten 0 points out of Palace, Villa and Bournemouth... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 40 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said: The best thing you can do is try and switch off from it, as hard as it is. At least focus solely on our games, not watching goals/results trickle in while we don't play. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 3 hours ago, scarthin said: Major problem is that we don’t play relegation battle football. We play better football than the other teams, and when it works it is lovely, but it’s fragile and easily affected by nerves. Whilst Leeds’ goal was very good, it was basically still if the “chuck it into the box and eventually the big chap will nod it in” type. We score very few of those sorts of goals and very few headers in general. This is reflected in the lack of goals from our corners. Everton always seem the type that exemplify the “score through pressure” game (practice makes perfect I guess) Why they 19th and won 3 in 12 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVIE B Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Tom12345 said: Thing is, Everton will be tougher to beat … and if we cannot beat Leeds this one is really going to be tough. It will be very scrappy. If we concede first, again, we are likely done for the season and be relegated. Everton's away form is dreadful. Our home support seems to have a new bounce. The only thing is, a Dyche side is generally horrible to play against. However, l'm backing Vards to have an impact, from memory he likes a goal or 2 against these. Edited 27 April 2023 by STEVIE B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trabuch Posted 27 April 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 27 April 2023 2 hours ago, KFS said: This is ****ing shit isn’t it? Occupying anyone else’s brain 24/7? Just prior to BR's sacking I was convinced we were going down and had managed to come to terms with relegation. I'd talked myself into believing it wasn't going to be so bad. In many ways the Championship is a much more entertaining and competitive division, cheaper tickets, more loyal fanbase etc.. I was at peace with it. Now I believe we have a chance of staying up (as do the bookies btw), I am in a right state. Obsessing about other team's results, loads of "what ifs" and "if onlys". It is, as you say, ****ing shit. It's the hope... etc etc. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 1 hour ago, Tom12345 said: Thing is, Everton will be tougher to beat … The league table begs to differ. In truth though, they might be tougher to beat, they might be easier to beat, we won't know until it happens. 1 hour ago, Tom12345 said: if we cannot beat Leeds this one is really going to be tough All games are tough when you're not very good. 1 hour ago, Tom12345 said: If we concede first, again, we are likely done for the season and be relegated Oh, stop being so pessimistic! Especially about stuff that hasn't even happened. Be optimistic - we've just taken four points from two games, in both of which we conceded first. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVFox Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 Just done a predictor, with us winning against Everton, drawing with Fulham & West Ham. We stay up on goal difference with us, Leeds and Everton all on 34 points. Forest on 35. Southampton in the mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 1 hour ago, KrefelderFox666 said: How many of us would trade positions with Southampton, Everton, Leeds or Forest? That includes current points, position, games played and remaining fixtures. I would take ours every time. Forest have Brentford A which will be tough. Saints at home- They are decent at home and this is a 6 pointer Chelsea away who cant win a raffle atm. Arsenal at home who will have lost the title to man city by then and will be crestfallen. Last game is Palace who will be on holiday by then. I'd take that over ours. Everton- tough 6 pointer Fulham away- no chance of a win(especially as i am going and my away record is sh1t) Liverpool home- nothing Newcastle A- nothing. Wham H- creaky arse time! God...wish it was all over.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzFOX Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 Barnes, Vardy, Tete’, daka have to go all guns blazing into the everton box. Be direct be fast. If they get through shoot if not shield the ball and make them foul. Worst case we get a free kick outside the box or a penalty inside it. Have to just go for it now from kick off. Do T let them settle apply the pressure. I’m confident we can bang a few goals in the first half. After half time who knows what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksz Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 Christ the level of negativity in here you’d think it would be this time next week and we’d just lost to Everton. As others have said, Tonight and Monday night are huge for us as it’s currently on a knife edge. Save the negativity until after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Bear Posted 27 April 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 27 April 2023 I said weeks ago that 36 points will be the total to keep you up. I also said that Lopetegui would get us out of it. Trust me it's Everton, Leeds and Southampton. They all look shot to me. Forest and yourselves will squeak out of it and you'll both stay up based on home form against the teams around you. And we've already given you 6 points towards safety, we can't help you any more! 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrefelderFox666 Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 52 minutes ago, Raj said: Forest have Brentford A which will be tough. Saints at home- They are decent at home and this is a 6 pointer Chelsea away who cant win a raffle atm. Arsenal at home who will have lost the title to man city by then and will be crestfallen. Last game is Palace who will be on holiday by then. I'd take that over ours. Everton- tough 6 pointer Fulham away- no chance of a win(especially as i am going and my away record is sh1t) Liverpool home- nothing Newcastle A- nothing. Wham H- creaky arse time! God...wish it was all over.... Could you do us all a favour and go to watch Forest for the last 5 games? Forest only have two home games, feel better with us having 3. I would still take our fixtures over Forest's, just my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gw_leics772 Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stuntman_Mike said: It's just too tight to call. Part of me wants to mentally prepare for the drop, but then I don't want to give up either when there's a chance! I don't seem capable. In my brain I am relatively relaxed in the belief we will stay up. **** knows where its come from though. I acknowledge intellectually that it is not that clear cut, but emotionally, it's not getting through. Guess I'm just setting myself up for a full on breakdown of we don't beat everton🤣😭 Edited 27 April 2023 by gw_leics772 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, KrefelderFox666 said: How many of us would trade positions with Southampton, Everton, Leeds or Forest? That includes current points, position, games played and remaining fixtures. I would take ours every time. Ooooo that's a good question to be fair! I'd probably go with Leeds and Forest, as quite simply, it's still in their hands Also, ask again after tonight's results, as Everton might take the place of Forest on the list!! Edited 27 April 2023 by FoxinNotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 3 hours ago, Aus Fox said: Looking at it, if Leeds don’t get a win against Bournemouth, then I don’t think they get another point this season. Man City away, Newcastle at home, West Ham away and Spurs at home - hopefully Spurs need to win that for Europe. They are currently one point ahead with an inferior GD, not losing that game this week will be huge. Southampton still have to go to Newcastle and play Liverpool and Brighton, defeat tonight and they are 6 points adrift, with 15 to play for including three tough games. To survive, both will need to pull something magic out of their arses. That leaves us, Everton and Forest. If we beat Everton they will need to get 5 more points than we get from: Newcastle Man City Brighton Wolves Bournemouth I really think a win against Everton and we’re almost safe… Although, everytime I look at the table and fixtures I see something different Everton will be very hard to beat ,I’m getting 0-0 vibes . Arsenal couldn’t do them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 Lots of mental gymnastics on here about other teams results and I'm talking about the people who claim they don't matter. Yes 'obviously' we need to win our games and if we do we'll be fine but it's so patently obvious that what happens elsewhere affects our margin for error. Why are people pretending Forest beating Brighton isn't a bad result for us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 27 April 2023 Share Posted 27 April 2023 Dont like we have so many late Monday games, whats that about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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