Mickyblueeyes Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 5 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Yep. A Bournemouth fan said to me that you should always consider what legacy has been achieved in a top flight run. We’ve got an oversized training ground which has meant for 90% of the squad the only time they step into Leicester is on a match day. We’ve pissed up the wall a huge chance to become something of a permanent fixture in the top flight. Forward thinking club helping develop players onto the next stage while playing in front of 40k. All eroded over a consecutive number of poor decisions at board level. You know the training ground for as beautiful and enticing as it is, is probably one of the most poorly thought out projects this club has ever undertaken. People will say, infrastructure investment is always a good thing and yes, that’s right but well thought out infrastructure investment with some element of risk. Not a full blown out vanity project which will set the club back years dependant on the one (significant) element of your business you can’t control. Say you have a business that churns out 1000 units a month of a product in a warehouse that realistically should only be churning out 800 of that product. Your nearest competitor is either on 500 units or 2500 units (depending which way you look). You decide to catch up with the bigger competitor and invest (with significant risk) in a warehouse capable of storing 5000 units but stick in that warehouse the same machine and facilities that had you over achieving at a 1000 units - you then decide to reduce maintenance on that machine to 2 times a year (previously 4). It sounds ****ing stupid because it is. We needed a better training ground. We needed land to do that. But we also couldn’t neglect the playing side and product that we are so dependant on - we didn’t sign a player this summer until we sold Fofana - that is unacceptable. When you look at his ownership, we’ve failed the playing side too often since the Tielemans signing (arguably still under the “Vichai plan”). I know it’s not nice to hear and it seems harsh given the non business/football related history but the this board and this owner are horrendous for us. Some of us have this idea that we are “lucky” but there isn’t another PL club who would take Top as owner. That includes Everton. It’s not just a case of sacking Brendan late and “going with your gut”. There are many aspects to our demise which are scary. And I hope (like Brendan) we are not all too late to see it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 1 hour ago, bovril said: Would be interested to hear from anybody who genuinely thinks we'll still avoid it I'm one, we're still only one win from getting out the bottom three. That's not to say I have faith in these spineless willy pullers but it's not like we're Southampton who need 3 wins from 3 and other results to go for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STUHILL Posted 8 May 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 8 May 2023 Forest and Everton players did their job today. Went for it, and were rewarded. Just highlights again how many gutless players we have playing for us. Kasper was the final card in place holding it all together with his passion and fight. Once he left, and in such weird circumstances, everything came tumbling down. We were left with a leaderless team and a manager and set of players who thought they were too good to be here and in this situation. No fight or desire. Even players joking and laughing with the opposition over the last few games. I just hope we are able to find players like Big Wes, Huth, Fuchs, Kasper etc, who are leaders and pure competitors who will fight for the club and set examples for the others. I look around now and see our "leaders" like Tielemans, Maddison, N'didi etc, who have no real fight in them. Lets clear them out and bring in players who will. They may not be as technically gifted as Tielemans or Maddison, but at least they will give everything when it matters most. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 We deserve relegation. We are a laughing stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hebangsthedrums Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 1 hour ago, alanf0x said: Thanks Brendan Yep. That's that. So embarassed the whimper we've exited with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 100% over and deservedly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Now 8/15 on oddschecker Forest 7/4 Night night 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooksy Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Worst day possible with Liverpool and Newcastle coming up. That is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Rodgers removed all the leaders from the dressing room one by one and never replaced them with big characters, no wonder we are ****ing gutless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hebangsthedrums Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 God now my stream has Michael Owen. Today is the pits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Next 3 games are going to be painful. Liverpool and Newcastle will steamroll us and the atmosphere at home on the last day against West Ham will be toxic! We had our chance and blew it already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 3 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: You know the training ground for as beautiful and enticing as it is, is probably one of the most poorly thought out projects this club has ever undertaken. People will say, infrastructure investment is always a good thing and yes, that’s right but well thought out infrastructure investment with some element of risk. Not a full blown out vanity project which will set the club back years dependant on the one (significant) element of your business you can’t control. When you consider on paper, you spent significant sums of money on land for which you can not get any rental return on but the training ground you leave can not be sold because of a sporting covenant on it, it didn’t make sense on a purely business decision. In the process of the ‘unseen’ thing is that by being out in the sticks, you become totally disattached from the city they club functions in. That’s not just an issue for the first team but also the academy; getting inner city kids to come out to North Leicestershire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Cheers Rodgers and Top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperEadem Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 1 minute ago, CosbehFox said: When you consider on paper, you spent significant sums of money on land for which you can not get any rental return on but the training ground you leave can not be sold because of a sporting covenant on it, it didn’t make sense on a purely business decision. In the process of the ‘unseen’ thing is that by being out in the sticks, you become totally disattached from the city they club functions in. That’s not just an issue for the first team but also the academy; getting inner city kids to come out to North Leicestershire. Yeah never thought of that. Assume they put a minibus on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkie Bennett Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 The management and the players are an utter disgrace. They've completely let down not only the fans but also the legacy of Vichai. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 3 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: When you consider on paper, you spent significant sums of money on land for which you can not get any rental return on but the training ground you leave can not be sold because of a sporting covenant on it, it didn’t make sense on a purely business decision. In the process of the ‘unseen’ thing is that by being out in the sticks, you become totally disattached from the city they club functions in. That’s not just an issue for the first team but also the academy; getting inner city kids to come out to North Leicestershire. Seagrave has a sporting covenant on it? I know the stadium has but didn't know the training complex did as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muzzy_no7 Posted 8 May 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 8 May 2023 (edited) From top to bottom I am absolutely disgusted with this club. The owner, the board, the DOF, the coaches and the players. All to blame. Brendan and his staff should’ve gone 14-18 months ago and that lies with the board. No bottle, no nerve. The recruitment has gone from being arguably the best to the worst in the league and that lies with Rudkin and Brendan. Brendans staff failed to question him. Toure was a waste of space and has since proven just how incapable he is. What does Stowell do with the goalkeepers?! Whoever got rid of our sports science and physio team including Rennie (Brendan I Believe) needs shooting. I’ve never ever seen a team in any sport suffer so many injuries like we have over the past 2-3 years. Certain players have failed to drag us out of this mess. So many mistakes. How has Ndidi gone from being Kantes match to Gelson Fernandes? Why hasn’t Luke Thomas been beefed up or loaned out? Players like Youri, Castagne, Faes and Barnes have had SO MUCH game time but simply haven’t developed as footballers or characters for 3 years. None of them are any better than they were 3 years ago. In fact I’d say Youri and Castagne are worse! The persistence of ward over Iverson has undoubtedly cost us up to 10 pts this season. Another one on Brendan. Maddison. Where to start with him. He isn’t as good as he thinks he is and he certainly isn’t a leader. We will get 30-35M for him in the summer but he isn’t fit enough and is too injury prone to ever be a Grealish/Odegaard. We deserve relegation. You make your own luck in football and we do not attack and press well enough to create that. Our defence is a shambles and has not been addressed. We should’ve gone 3-5-2 a long time ago and stuck with it. We were the best of the rest. We broke the wheel. King of the midlands and now looks at it, Coventry, who were in League two in 2019 while we were in the Europa league and pushing for top four will be in the division above us!! Sick of this sh*te. Bring on Plymouth, Rotherham and Swansea. Edited 8 May 2023 by Muzzy_no7 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 1 minute ago, Spudulike said: Seagrave has a sporting covenant on it? I know the stadium has but didn't know the training complex did as well. Belvoir Drive. We can’t sell the land due to a sporting covenant. All stems from the YMCA being based there etc. So we’ve moved to a new training ground but can’t reimburse the coffers with a few bob for Belvoir Dr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Just now, Arkie Bennett said: The management and the players are an utter disgrace. They've completely let down not only the fans but also the legacy of Vichai. Alot of them never met Vichai or weren't in our title winning team so aren't bothered.....they still be getting their millions and driving their Lambo's.......wish we still had Albrighton in the team, at least he would have shown some fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thequickbrownfox Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 It's been such a flat season right from the start. We've had the odd good result here and there, but never really looked like getting our act together long term. Clean sheets are a thing of the past now - going 20 minutes without conceding is about our limit at the moment. It's been far more wretched than we could ever have imagined and a horrible way to end a nine year top flight spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Seriously, who do we want to keep. For me from the first team squad. Iverson KDH. Thomas, Souttar, Faes Nacho Barnes Ricardo Justin. The rest will either leave or not wanted. A massive rebuilding job is needed and I doubt whether Top wants it and or Rudkin is capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejammy Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Just looking at this, I've finally had the realisation that we're down. No question about it. No more points so what the others do is irrelevant. Such a sad state of affairs. Top to bottom we need a clear out and we go again. I feel we'll also struggle in the championship next season. This is going to involve another 5-10 year plan with a new owner. Thanks Top, but we have to part ways. Rudkin / Whealan - you pair care f right off. Should have both gone years ago and solely lay the blame with you pair. Lowest I've felt as a Leicester fan. That includes when we dropped to league 1. This feels much much worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody2028 Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 We were 15/8 this morning, don’t even want to look at what we are now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 It's a foregone conclusion now, no doubt about it not because of results elsewhere but because as demonstrated by our "performance" and attitude today, we have no capability whatsoever of plucking a win from anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejammy Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 1 minute ago, Fazzer 7 said: Seriously, who do we want to keep. For me from the first team squad. Iverson KDH. Thomas, Souttar, Faes Nacho Barnes Ricardo Justin. The rest will either leave or not wanted. A massive rebuilding job is needed and I doubt whether Top wants it and or Rudkin is capable. Keep Thomas and Barnes? Both a big reason why we are where we are! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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