Popular Post tom27111 Posted 21 May 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 21 May 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: Trust me, everything is going to be okay! I'd love to mate, but it really isn't. And I was chatting with @Izzy yesterday. I'm sure he wont mind me saying...we've had some incredible times, but we shouldn't have this defeatist attitude of "ah well, it was good while it lasted" It's soul destroying what's happening right now. It actually hurts. The players/management have been so casual about everything. The owner has been exactly the same. All of us will always be here. Players, managers, owners all come and go. Supporters don't. I've really fallen out of love with this club, but it hurts me more than it hurts them. It needs reforming from top to bottom and I genuinely fear for our future. Edited 21 May 2023 by tom27111 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinslowFox Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 Bodgers, Board, Players all deserve relegation The only ones that don’t are us the fans & we’re the ones it will hurt the most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 Even Forest beat Arsenal. Unbelievable. Conspiracy theory or not, they have shown much more guts compared to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 Everton, Forest and Leeds all knew they were in a relegation dogfight from weeks ago and played as such... Our squad, did not believe they were, and played as such. The table doesnt lie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 31 minutes ago, ozleicester said: Everton, Forest and Leeds all knew they were in a relegation dogfight from weeks ago and played as such... Our squad, did not believe they were, and played as such. The table doesnt lie Didn't know or didn't care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 6 hours ago, The Bear said: These were the odds at the end of July. There cannot be many sides who were predicted 9th that were relegated. What a ****up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 5 hours ago, Aus Fox said: It’s grim, but whilst there’s a chance we’ve got to keep fighting and backing the lads. You'd think, wouldn't you? That that's kind of what being a supporter actually is? But no. Not on here at least. Foxes never quit (until it all gets a bit difficult). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 The fact there's been constant noise from media and inside the club that we're too good to go down, probably has leaked onto the pitch. Forest for example were written off all year, and as such every player was playing to prove they were good enough to play in the league. None of ours players have had that, agents looking for moves away, and you can tell none of them care. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 1 hour ago, Phil Bowman said: You'd think, wouldn't you? That that's kind of what being a supporter actually is? But no. Not on here at least. Foxes never quit (until it all gets a bit difficult). Theres a chance and then theres being delusional. We've been sleepwalking into this for months and the realistic fans who see the games already know our fate.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoneticerror Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Phil Bowman said: You'd think, wouldn't you? That that's kind of what being a supporter actually is? But no. Not on here at least. Foxes never quit (until it all gets a bit difficult). Do you actually think the team are fighting to stay up? Anybody would think some of these players and board members want the club to go down. Edited 21 May 2023 by phoneticerror 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 1 hour ago, Phil Bowman said: You'd think, wouldn't you? That that's kind of what being a supporter actually is? But no. Not on here at least. Foxes never quit (until it all gets a bit difficult). Phil, I am willing us to get something out of tomorrow night... andvto beat west ham. I am hoping everton and leeds dont win any more points. Yet I am so cross that it has come to this... no dign of contrition from the club. This season has been a slow motion car crash and the club has done nothing.... so here we are. I am so disappointed. If we do wiggle free then I am desperate that lessons are learned. If we dont avoid the drop, then we need to sort out the decision making at the club pdq because we should never have got to this mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 2 minutes ago, Raj said: Theres a chance and then theres being delusional. We've been sleepwalking into this for months and the realistic fans who see the games already know our fate.... You seem to have misunderstood the point I was making. Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyC74 Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 Am sure the players will have a long line of excuses ready when we drop but most couldn’t give a fcuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 10 minutes ago, Phil Bowman said: You seem to have misunderstood the point I was making. Never mind. Yes never mind Phil Bowman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benguin Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 Assuming we were actually capable of winning some games, mathematically we’re not in a terrible place providing Leeds lose or draw today. Everton can finish on 36 Leeds can finish on 34-35 (assuming lose or draw today) that means it’s in our hands with the goal difference and we just have a play off semi final against Newcastle and a play off final against West Ham. if Leeds win today, we have to win both and Tottenham hold Leeds to a draw or defeat. it’s actually really doable! Argyhhh hope! shame we’re doggo and will get thrashed by Newcastle tomorrow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 This one is hurting more than any of the others. Anger mixed with sadness. Even League One relegation didn’t have me this sad/disappointed/angry. **** Top the Thai Mike Ashley tribute act. **** Rudkin. **** the players. **** Rodgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 Been thinking hard and cannot remember a team finishing in the top half five years in a row then heading to relegation. Possibly Blackburn in the 90s? Leeds had one season of struggle after consistent good years before going. This is an incredible fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 Fair play to Forest who have scrapped (unlike us) and Everton yesterday who found a goal late on (something we are devoid at). I accepted relegation weeks ago. We deserve it for the lack of effort. A few weeks ago our goal difference was one of few positives, but if we’re not careful that could he completely eroded tomorrow as it’s now not that much better than Everton and Leeds. But whatever happens tomorrow how mad is it that it will go down to the final day? That this group has a chance of saving their skins maybe says something about how poor the lower part of the league is. I think now a large part of me is sort of looking forward to it - and we need it don’t we? It’s the only possible way we can get enough of these clowns out the door, and I don’t just mean players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaa2 Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 7 hours ago, tom27111 said: I'd love to mate, but it really isn't. And I was chatting with @Izzy yesterday. I'm sure he wont mind me saying...we've had some incredible times, but we shouldn't have this defeatist attitude of "ah well, it was good while it lasted" It's soul destroying what's happening right now. It actually hurts. The players/management have been so casual about everything. The owner has been exactly the same. All of us will always be here. Players, managers, owners all come and go. Supporters don't. I've really fallen out of love with this club, but it hurts me more than it hurts them. It needs reforming from top to bottom and I genuinely fear for our future. This is a big part of it. There's no big club mentality. Evertonians refuse to accept relegation and demand better. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyC74 Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 22 minutes ago, Corky said: Been thinking hard and cannot remember a team finishing in the top half five years in a row then heading to relegation. Possibly Blackburn in the 90s? Leeds had one season of struggle after consistent good years before going. This is an incredible fall. Spot on. Lots of excuses will be made, but where has the professional pride of the players been this season. The majority have phoned it in, checked out - call it what you like - ages ago. Not fit to wear the shirt. Fcuk em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 I’d love to be hopeful but there is no point, I can’t remember (been supporting since late 1970s) a more powder puff, mentally weak, bunch of cowardly footballers at our club, no heart, no fight, no spirit. No hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 1 hour ago, Benguin said: Assuming we were actually capable of winning some games, mathematically we’re not in a terrible place providing Leeds lose or draw today. Everton can finish on 36 Leeds can finish on 34-35 (assuming lose or draw today) that means it’s in our hands with the goal difference and we just have a play off semi final against Newcastle and a play off final against West Ham. if Leeds win today, we have to win both and Tottenham hold Leeds to a draw or defeat. it’s actually really doable! Argyhhh hope! shame we’re doggo and will get thrashed by Newcastle tomorrow. We will be in a terrible place by 10pm Monday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
String fellow Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 If I'm not mistaken, with 5 matches left (1 Everton, 2 Leeds, 2 Leicester) and 3 possible outcomes to each game, there are still 3^5 = 243 different combinations of results that could occur during the next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 8 minutes ago, String fellow said: If I'm not mistaken, with 5 matches left (1 Everton, 2 Leeds, 2 Leicester) and 3 possible outcomes to each game, there are still 3^5 = 243 different combinations of results that could occur during the next week. Lord only knows statistics isn't my strong point, but I make it 108? We have 6 possible combinations of results, as do Leeds, so 6x6 = 36, and Everton have three possible outcomes, so 36x3 = 108. But I am basically innumerate, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 21 May 2023 Share Posted 21 May 2023 Anyone fancy working out how many of the dozens of possible permutations result in us staying up? Probably not many... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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