CosbehFox Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, The Doctor said: I mean, do you really think that'll change when we go down? unless we're down for several seasons and haemorrhage support back to a 23-24k regular attendance I don't see it They will have to work bloody hard regardless of league position to get decent attendances on midweek nights. There are a lot of wages in middle management of 'the club' who have their own motives (and equally either little or poor experience within football clubs) that will have to be trimmed. Can they keep up the stewarding bills that the 'new' (well he's been here a while now) H&S bloke insists on? His liking for Showsec would be explored in a public role given the blank cheque they've had this season (and particularly on Sunday). Edited 23 May 2023 by CosbehFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 Keep going back to Tielemans 'goal' vs Leeds and the penalty being given against Everton. In both of those moments I thought that would be the decisive turning point, but they were both snatched away soon after. Not that we deserve to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 1 minute ago, CosbehFox said: They will have to work bloody hard regardless of league position to get decent attendances on midweek nights. There are a lot of wages in middle management of 'the club' who have their own motives (and equally either little or poor experience within football clubs) that will have to be trimmed. Can they keep up the stewarding bills that the 'new' (well he's been here a while now) H&S bloke insists on? His liking for Showsec would be explored in a public role given the blank cheque they've had this season (and particularly on Sunday). well yea, but let's be honest the club aren't gonna suddenly heel-turn on making the away turnstiles into a game of Papers, Please or drop the obsession with sitting down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyKopCorner Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 35 minutes ago, Phil Bowman said: Yes, because of course if there's one team you can rely on for a win, it's us. Yes we never throw games away - even at 3-1 we’d be like nervous little kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 55 minutes ago, SemperEadem said: Shame in one respect if we do stay up as absolutely nothing will change at the club. Their distain for the supporters will continue. If we go down, do you think there will be sweeping changes? You'd like to think there will be big changes regardless of what happens, but who knows? This whole season is so odd, even Vardy saying the season has been strange and there are things he can't talk about... IMO the entire operation feels like it's missing a leader, with people just going through the motions doing what they think is right, but not really knowing. Without Vichai it seems like we have no direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 Just now, The Doctor said: well yea, but let's be honest the club aren't gonna suddenly heel-turn on making the away turnstiles into a game of Papers, Please or drop the obsession with sitting down Be a slow eeking out of it, agreed. But there's a shock coming for the Yacht Club boys working at the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, bovril said: Not that we deserve to stay up. Neither do Leeds or Everton , if Everton can't beat a safe and pretty ordinary Bournemouth at home , they absolutely deserve to go down. West Ham have been disappointing as have Spurs but are still better than Bournemouth are. They have the easiest match. If I was an Everton fan , I would be devastated if they don't get this job done. Edited 23 May 2023 by An Sionnach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 (edited) I’m going to do it to myself one more time. But I genuinely think we will end up staying up. Somehow, don’t know how, but we will… And if we do, will it be the lowest points tally ever to survive on? Edited 23 May 2023 by Pliskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 10 minutes ago, Pliskin said: I’m going to do it to myself one more time. But I genuinely think we will end up staying up. Somehow, don’t know how, but we will… And if we do, will it be the lowest points tally ever to survive on? We'd equal West Brom's record of staying up with 34 points in 2004/05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 1 minute ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: 13 minutes ago, Pliskin said: I’m going to do it to myself one more time. But I genuinely think we will end up staying up. Somehow, don’t know how, but we will… And if we do, will it be the lowest points tally ever to survive on? Expand We'd equal West Brom's record of staying up with 34 points in 2004/05. Although there have been several seasons when less than 34 would have been enough, including at least one season when all three relegated teams got less than 30 points! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 10 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: We'd equal West Brom's record of staying up with 34 points in 2004/05. Really? I didn’t even realise anything less that 36 had kept a team up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mee-9 Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 A 14% chance. It's a bloody slim one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 1 minute ago, Pliskin said: Really? I didn’t even realise anything less that 36 had kept a team up. Numerous teams have stayed up with 35, but WBA have the record with 34. We can only equal that. Everton could possibly beat that by staying up with 33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 If/when it's confirmed I doubt there will be any changes of note at the club. They'll just bank on "we've been a PL club for 9 years I'm sure we'll bounce back with little to no plan in place". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 26 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: If/when it's confirmed I doubt there will be any changes of note at the club. They'll just bank on "we've been a PL club for 9 years I'm sure we'll bounce back with little to no plan in place". This, unfortunately I think is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 41 minutes ago, Mee-9 said: A 14% chance. It's a bloody slim one. Who even calculates these odds? Quite simply we have to win and Everton can't. Everton are in pole position but with both teams struggling to get wins all season, you cannot call it so easily. We've won one more game for Everton as shocking as we've been this season. I'd say based on that alone we're more likely but pressure can do funny things in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 I do wonder if Moyes will be a factor. He didn't necessarily leave Everton on "bad" terms. It's not like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee7 Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 I think Everton will draw with Bournemouth and we'll lose at home to West Ham after being too cautious all match. We have to take risks in this next match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 51 minutes ago, Pliskin said: Really? I didn’t even realise anything less that 36 had kept a team up. It's been quite a while since 40 points was needed. Even the last decade I'd say 35+ is probably what you need now. Our title season Sunderland stayed up on 39 and Newcastle went down on 37 but Villa were whipping boys and lost 27 games, handing out wins to every man and his dog. The gap between 17th and 9th was only 12 points. It actually makes our win all the more impressive, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 Not nervous at all. Pretty certain we're down and completely sure we deserve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Claw II Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 Whichever league we are in the squad needs a massive overhaul. The benefit of the Championship is that we’d play more of our youth prospects / players with potential to improve. Justin, Kristianson, Thomas, KDH, Iverson also. I can just about count Daka as young. It’ll also force the clear out. would still rather stay up, but if we do go down, hopefully it’ll mean the last we see of most of the dross. Hopefully Vestegard takes a massive wage cut and finally leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountesthorpeFox1 Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 Bookies have Everton as a shoe in to win! They have Everton at 4/9 & Bournemouth at 13/2. That’s crazy considering how bad Everton are. I mean I think they’ll win but that’s pretty good odds as you can’t rule Bournemouth out, they’re a better team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntman_Mike Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 2 minutes ago, CountesthorpeFox1 said: Bookies have Everton as a shoe in to win! They have Everton at 4/9 & Bournemouth at 13/2. That’s crazy considering how bad Everton are. I mean I think they’ll win but that’s pretty good odds as you can’t rule Bournemouth out, they’re a better team! Especially as Bournemouth are actually the better side, it's just whether they turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 Covering bet on Everton win numb the pain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountesthorpeFox1 Posted 23 May 2023 Share Posted 23 May 2023 4 minutes ago, Stuntman_Mike said: Especially as Bournemouth are actually the better side, it's just whether they turn up. Yeah, I’m starting to have this horrible thing called hope. A draw is a good possibility it’s more if we have it in us to beat West Ham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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