Kasey Keller Posted 2 September 2022 Share Posted 2 September 2022 2 hours ago, shilton_fox said: whose retaliated? Bring on the player uprising, Cags has shot back at the comments from last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 2 September 2022 Share Posted 2 September 2022 (edited) https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/premier-league/ 538 are really good at performance modelling despite playing three of the big six they have us at a one in five chance of relegation Edited 2 September 2022 by Cardiff_Fox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ian Nacho Posted 2 September 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 2 September 2022 I see people saying “we’re too good to be relegated”. That’s the exact type of attitude that will get you relegated. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 If we lose to Brighton, it’ll start to look a little more bleak with us say on 1 point after 6 games. The last 10 years. 21/22 - Norwich - Relegated 20/21 - Burnley, Sheffield U, Fulham - 2 relegated 17/18 - Crystal Palace - Survived 16/17 - Sunderland - Relegated 13/14 - Sunderland - Survived 4/7 - 57% of the teams were relegated. If you take the Premier League since it started. 09/10 - Portsmouth - Relegated 05/06 - Sunderland - Relegated 04/05 - Crystal Palace - Relegated 02/03 - West Ham - Relegated 99/00 - Sheffield Wed - Relegated 98/99 - Southampton - Survived 96/97 - Blackburn - Survived 95/96 - Manchester City - Relegated 93/94 - Swindon - Relegated 11/16 - 69% of teams were relegated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Lover Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 Good, aren't we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 Also to add, compared to our worst ever seasons looking at a few stats. 94/95 - Brian Little - 1 Point 83/84 - Gordon Milne - 0 Point This is pretty horrendous our own standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyKopCorner Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 7 minutes ago, Sly said: Also to add, compared to our worst ever seasons looking at a few stats. 94/95 - Brian Little - 1 Point 83/84 - Gordon Milne - 0 Point This is pretty horrendous our own standards. & We stayed up comfortably in 83 / 84 - We even had a bad finish to the year as well if memory serves me correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said: & We stayed up comfortably in 83 / 84 - We even had a bad finish to the year as well if memory serves me correctly. We finished 15th. We stayed up by 4 points. Of the last 10 games, we picked up points with wins against West Ham, Norwich, Villa and Forest, then draws against Luton, Liverpool and Southampton. So at the time we’d have finished on a run of 11 points out of 20, so not the worst return in the world. Bizarrely, our first win came against Southampton, who finished 2nd that season. How the football landscape has changed. That league featured Luton, Coventry and Notts County. Edited 3 September 2022 by Sly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyKopCorner Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 7 minutes ago, Sly said: We finished 15th. We stayed up by 4 points. Of the last 10 games, we picked up points with wins against West Ham, Norwich, Villa and Forest, then draws against Luton, Liverpool and Southampton. So at the time we’d have finished on a run of 11 points out of 20, so not the worst return in the world. Bizarrely, our first win came against Southampton, who finished 2nd that season. How the football landscape has changed. That league featured Luton, Coventry and Notts County. Much better than I remembered. I remember the terrible start - Was it 0 - 4 Vs Nots County and then 0 - 3 versus Luton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 41 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said: Much better than I remembered. I remember the terrible start - Was it 0 - 4 Vs Nots County and then 0 - 3 versus Luton? Something like that. I remember reading a few results and thinking … “ouch” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 A few days ago I was worried there wasn't any worse teams than us in the league. I just watched Bournemouth v forest and I'm now confident there's at least 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 Six points behind Bournemouth is a shocking start. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Sly said: If we lose to Brighton, it’ll start to look a little more bleak with us say on 1 point after 6 games. The last 10 years. 21/22 - Norwich - Relegated 20/21 - Burnley, Sheffield U, Fulham - 2 relegated 17/18 - Crystal Palace - Survived 16/17 - Sunderland - Relegated 13/14 - Sunderland - Survived 4/7 - 57% of the teams were relegated. If you take the Premier League since it started. 09/10 - Portsmouth - Relegated 05/06 - Sunderland - Relegated 04/05 - Crystal Palace - Relegated 02/03 - West Ham - Relegated 99/00 - Sheffield Wed - Relegated 98/99 - Southampton - Survived 96/97 - Blackburn - Survived 95/96 - Manchester City - Relegated 93/94 - Swindon - Relegated 11/16 - 69% of teams were relegated. Only one of our games as well is against a team on fire (Arsenal), rest are expected relegation candidates or on shaky form themselves. Edited 3 September 2022 by Chrysalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 (edited) So if we win we out of the drop zone on goal difference. Edited 3 September 2022 by Chrysalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 13 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said: Much better than I remembered. I remember the terrible start - Was it 0 - 4 Vs Nots County and then 0 - 3 versus Luton? Match 7 was first point 2-2 home to Stoke. Match 11 first win 2-0 home to Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1ddo71 Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 19 hours ago, Ian Nacho said: I see people saying “we’re too good to be relegated”. That’s the exact type of attitude that will get you relegated. It happend to Man U in the Seventies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 Last time we were bottom of the PL we won the title the following season but it’s perhaps a little too early to start a Champions thread 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathrow fox Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 14 hours ago, Sly said: Something like that. I remember reading a few results and thinking … “ouch” Mark Grew was in goal for the shocking start.Not sure if that was because of a Wallington injury or Grew had been signed as the new no1.Bad start and everything,that team was hungry and pulled off some great results.Staying up quite comfortably in the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm1 Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 21 hours ago, Ian Nacho said: I see people saying “we’re too good to be relegated”. That’s the exact type of attitude that will get you relegated. Yep, I remember many saying that about West Ham 20 odd years ago, when they had quite a few Enhland internationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 I think we look the worst team in the division at the moment. Our play is definitely the slowest, easiest to play against and the most predictable. This is going to be a hugely difficult season I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe90lcfc Posted 3 September 2022 Share Posted 3 September 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Ian Nacho said: I see people saying “we’re too good to be relegated”. That’s the exact type of attitude that will get you relegated. The people who are saying this are obviously fans who jumped on board after we won the league, and haven’t witnessed Season after season of shite Edited 3 September 2022 by Joe90lcfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 5 hours ago, Col city fan said: I think we look the worst team in the division at the moment. Our play is definitely the slowest, easiest to play against and the most predictable. This is going to be a hugely difficult season I think Our play isn't the worst. Our mentality is, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFCJohn Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 2 hours ago, brucey said: Our play isn't the worst. Our mentality is, though. It’s absolutely the least effective at either end of the pitch so I’d say that qualifies as the worst. Can’t create chances, generally concede 2 per game…there’s not even any signs from performances that we are close to picking up more points! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristianity77 Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 I just can't see how we are ever going to play any better, when the unsackable man in charge doesn't want to play any other way despite it not working for nigh on 18 months. The players are sick of it. Its a recipe for disaster. The problem is, we will probably win 1 in 6 playing like this by chance, meaning Rodgers will continue to stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 My feeling is the board will wait until the WC break to make a move. At that point we'll have played 16 matches, and I suspect we'll be around 10-11 points. Probably bottom of the table, certainly several points into the relegation zone. The question is whether that will be enough time for a new manager to dig us out, even if he gets some help in January, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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