adam Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Wilf needs to be back in the side. If not in midfield in defence. he is a better centre half than big bad Dan. All hell could break loose here in the stands if we get a good pumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Man United will win. They seem to be back to their jammy win days. Plus no Maguire for them, though Ten Hag may put him in to prove a point of how shit we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 10 hours ago, lee7 said: I think we will keep the ball for long periods but then an Amartey mistake will cost us and we will end up losing 0-2. United are not great but at the moment we are terrible so i can't see us causing them too many problems. Genuine question, so why do we do it? I mean you literally gave an answer as to why it's not an effective gameplan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 I don't think Tielemans will feature, he will probably get his deadline move to Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 51 minutes ago, adam said: Wilf needs to be back in the side. If not in midfield in defence. he is a better centre half than big bad Dan. All hell could break loose here in the stands if we get a good pumping Defense only for me, he really isn't good enough in midfield and just holds us back imo. We need to keep pressure off the back line by attacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincinnati Fox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 11 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: I don't think Tielemans will feature, he will probably get his deadline move to Liverpool. Yep! Iv heard 15 million bid coming in late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adejo92 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 (edited) Pretty sure that between them, the dynamic Dan's can gift Man Utd 3 points. Edited 29 August 2022 by adejo92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 13 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: I don't think Tielemans will feature, he will probably get his deadline move to Liverpool. ...he will still be here next season, he is going nowhere, not an itk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 4 minutes ago, splinterdream said: Defense only for me, he really isn't good enough in midfield and just holds us back imo. We need to keep pressure off the back line by attacking ...we did that before, using a 4-1-4-1, formation!!! He is more than good enough to be in the team as the DM, he is just being asked to do things he is not cut out to do. He has improved his new skills to a point, but to the detriment of what he does best. If we continually judge him on the role he is now being asked to play, he will never be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...he will still be here next season, he is going nowhere, not an itk!!! He'll be here till the end of this season. Don't think he'll be here next season. When he can walk away for free other clubs will be interested in him, its no risk for them, whilst we are demanding money and clubs are looking at his form over the past year its abit of a gamble to them. What he needs to realise is he needs to buck his ideas up to interest a certain calibre of club he has ambitions and thinks he should be at. *Infact, contrary to my first sentence, he could have a slight gimmer of a January move, dependent on how his form is, how desperate we are for money and how desperate a buying club is - Can he talk to other clubs in January anyway? Edited 29 August 2022 by Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 15 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...we did that before, using a 4-1-4-1, formation!!! He is more than good enough to be in the team as the DM, he is just being asked to do things he is not cut out to do. He has improved his new skills to a point, but to the detriment of what he does best. If we continually judge him on the role he is now being asked to play, he will never be good enough. Not for me I'm afraid, a midfielder needs to be able to pass the ball and move the ball forward, not just tackle and recycle with a backwards pass. We need to take pressure off the defense by playing attacking football imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkidsFox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 (edited) I'm not so sure, FOMO may force one of the big clubs to make a bid this week for Youri. He may have helped his chances of a move by his good performance this weekend. Edited 29 August 2022 by SkidsFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 36 minutes ago, Cincinnati Fox said: Yep! Iv heard 15 million bid coming in late. We wouldn’t accept that (because we could get that amount in Jan if he has a decent World Cup) Knocking back a move to liverpool would seriously stretch the ‘professionalism’ he has so far showed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 49 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: I don't think Tielemans will feature, he will probably get his deadline move to Liverpool. He'll go to arsenal if anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Tielemans isn’t mobile or fit enough to play in Liverpool’s middle 3. KDH would suit Liverpool better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmondfox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 We will keep losing until Rodger’s goes or changes his style. See how Ten Hag changed the style against Liverpool and went long rather than play out from the back. This game will be the same, an Amartey mistake causing a goal. Youri with his standard misplaced pass into the middle of the park. Slow build up from the back passing around and out of danger only to lose it carelessly when a punt out would do. Youri seems unable to receive the ball and turn in one move anymore, something he did with style and ease two season ago. This is partly because Amartey is too slow to release the ball, you can see him physically stutter as his brain is deciding anything other than sideways. Also as Youri clearly doesn’t care. I can’t see anything other than a negative set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mee-9 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 Last game hopefully for Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 1 hour ago, Matt said: He'll be here till the end of this season. Don't think he'll be here next season. When he can walk away for free other clubs will be interested in him, its no risk for them, whilst we are demanding money and clubs are looking at his form over the past year its abit of a gamble to them. What he needs to realise is he needs to buck his ideas up to interest a certain calibre of club he has ambitions and thinks he should be at. *Infact, contrary to my first sentence, he could have a slight gimmer of a January move, dependent on how his form is, how desperate we are for money and how desperate a buying club is - Can he talk to other clubs in January anyway? ....with the talk of Liverpool being interested and of course Arsenal, then there is a possibility he could go, but I do not see him leaving here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 8 minutes ago, Richmondfox said: We will keep losing until Rodger’s goes or changes his style. See how Ten Hag changed the style against Liverpool and went long rather than play out from the back. This game will be the same, an Amartey mistake causing a goal. Youri with his standard misplaced pass into the middle of the park. Slow build up from the back passing around and out of danger only to lose it carelessly when a punt out would do. Youri seems unable to receive the ball and turn in one move anymore, something he did with style and ease two season ago. This is partly because Amartey is too slow to release the ball, you can see him physically stutter as his brain is deciding anything other than sideways. Also as Youri clearly doesn’t care. I can’t see anything other than a negative set up. To be fair to Amartey he’s actually a decent passer, especially going through the lines, did well for Perez chance on Saturday. For all of his criticisms and many of them are deserved, his passing is not the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 2 hours ago, adam said: All hell could break loose here in the stands if we get a good pumping Yes indeed, our hardcore support have a history of turning very nasty.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Fox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 From The Athletic the other week: 'You can be unlucky with a refereeing decision and get a result against United. You can play hard for little more than an hour and still take points from United. You can miss at least one obvious goalscoring opportunity and hurt United. You can take a speculative long-range effort “just to have a go” against United. Small flaws become glaring weaknesses when they are hit often enough, and United have many flaws that can be exploited by many teams.' Sounds ideal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridFox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 (edited) We've been United's achilles heel since promotion. They'll win here though Edited 29 August 2022 by TK95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 52 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Knocking back a move to liverpool would seriously stretch the ‘professionalism’ he has so far showed I don’t think so. Why on earth should he be obliged to accept the offer of a job he doesn’t want, or which might not suit him, just because it might be a bit convenient for his current employers? (Would you? I wouldn’t.) It’s hardly a Matt Piper to Sunderland situation, where leaving could actually be the difference between the club surviving or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Phil Bowman said: I don’t think so. Why on earth should he be obliged to accept the offer of a job he doesn’t want, or which might not suit him, just because it might be a bit convenient for his current employers? (Would you? I wouldn’t.) It’s hardly a Matt Piper to Sunderland situation, where leaving could actually be the difference between the club surviving or not! I meant we would knock back the offer ….. Edited 29 August 2022 by st albans fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 29 August 2022 Share Posted 29 August 2022 9 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I meant we would knock back the offer ….. Ah. Gotcha. Sorry, totally misunderstood! My bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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