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Group B: England, Iran, USA, Wales

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Watching how "less talented" teams harry and rush opponents into mistakes it seems to me this obvious tactic is beneath our lot!

Privileged and delusional are words which spring to mind.

Are players from USA, KSA ,Japan and other non "elite" countries as talented and lauded as ours?

Does anyone seriously believe we'd have beaten Argentina as the Saudis did?

 

The answer to both is l suggest no and that leaves one reason only, it begins with S and ends with outhgate.

 

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41 minutes ago, The_77 said:

Maybe you should have gone back home for the tournament, you’re really taking this poorly.  lol
 

Yeah, the coverage of Pulisic is a bit over the top and he’s clearly not a great player in the PL. But the thing about Pulisic is: he is most certainly a great player for the United States. 
 

Most Brits have no idea what goes on in the Western Hemisphere when it comes to football. Pulisic plays his heart out for his country and spends 90 minutes getting hacked to death in CONCACAF for that privilege. 
 

During the 2018 WC qualifying campaign debacle, a teenage Pulisic was doing everything he could for the team and put on several heroic performances only to be let down by the worst collection of American players in decades and a total breakdown in the management.
 

So yeah, a lot of Americans care about whether or not Pulisic is on the bench and you can’t blame them for a second. 
 

And who really gives a flying fuch over who wins the Budweiser Man of the Match for a group stage game? 

He’s shit though 

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Ok I will be totally serious now, having wound up every American colleague and friend I know.

 

It’s a good point, and I think both teams and coaches executed their game plans, however frustrating. It’s a good sign withstanding the running power of a young side, something we may need if we come up against Spain later in the tournament. I also think if we’d had more effective wingers the US would have struggled to exploit us on the counter like they did. We gave them free rein of the flanks and they forced us inside while nullifying Kane, to great effect. 

 

I thought the US showed us two very big Leicester shaped holes in Musah and Robinson. Wouldn’t mind either in Jan. 


I think both win on Tuesday and go through. Been closer contested than I thought as a group and the banter has kept it interesting. 

 

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18 minutes ago, KFS said:

Ok I will be totally serious now, having wound up every American colleague and friend I know.

 

It’s a good point, and I think both teams and coaches executed their game plans, however frustrating. It’s a good sign withstanding the running power of a young side, something we may need if we come up against Spain later in the tournament. I also think if we’d had more effective wingers the US would have struggled to exploit us on the counter like they did. We gave them free rein of the flanks and they forced us inside while nullifying Kane, to great effect. 

 

I thought the US showed us two very big Leicester shaped holes in Musah and Robinson. Wouldn’t mind either in Jan. 


I think both win on Tuesday and go through. Been closer contested than I thought as a group and the banter has kept it interesting. 

 

TAA and Foden would have given us major problems.
 

We all have to like going into the last game of the group stage with something on the line— it’s a decent group. 
 

And as much as we like to talk a lot of sh*t about each other, it’s all in good fun.  England vs. Wales and USA vs. Iran at the same damn time will be a completely different level and I can’t fuching wait. 

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18 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I mean. 

 

If the English had to feel bad about themselves every time one of their former colonies embarrassed them in a sport they invented then the entire country would have committed ritual suicide somewhere around the 46474956484th Australian test cricket win of the 90s alone. 

This is what I don’t understand, we’re always decent enough to give the country back in the end… and let them win at sports?

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The argument Southgate has done a good job because we fluked a semi final 4 years ago and then did well on home soil but absolutely bottled the final compared to other managers before, well quite frankly the other managers hugely under performed. 

 

I'm genuinely serious, anything other than winning major trophies is a failure as England manager and most definitely during a period where the quality of international teams isnt that high, no stand out powerhouse of a nation either in Europe or the rest of the world. The fact that this last year England have been really regressing under Southgate means there's there's even less argument to retaliate those that have had enough of him.

 

I respect the way he brought a but of pride and accountability to the group of players and some unity but other than that I've very little positives to say about Southgate. It drives me insane how low the standards are from those influential in English football are, the media have given him the easiest ride of any manager I can ever remember. Now that will be argued because of what he's achieved but we haven't achieved ANYTHING. NOTHING. ZERO. I don't class this era as any better than under Robson or Sven. Not good enough unless we win this World Cup.

 

There you go

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6 hours ago, KFS said:

I thought they were a unique group of people to elect an orange idiot and a man who can’t string a sentence together; but voting for Pulisic for man of the match over a clear winner in Harry Maguire was something else. Just like when NBC Sports report when he makes the bench for Chelsea. The guy doesn’t get in England’s starting line up. Absolute delusions of grandeur 

I can see why they went for Pulisic, and it's not just the Yanks who will prefer attacking players over a defender. 

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