RumbleFox Posted 26 November 2022 Author Share Posted 26 November 2022 3 minutes ago, shade said: you mustn't have read it or are just shooting things down blindly that don't fit your personal ideology, it was quoting a wide government survey. https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukgwa/20160129144547/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/integrated-household-survey/integrated-household-survey/january-to-december-2013/sty-facts-about-lgb-community-in-the-uk.html Haha my ideology. I have adhd and reading long passages is difficult for me. It’s something which I’ve felt a lot of shame about my whole life. Thank you for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, FoxesDeb said: You cannot possibly know that. You are talking about the number of gay people you are aware of, as was I. I mean until we know otherwise that’s all we’ve got to go at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 26 November 2022 Author Share Posted 26 November 2022 Anyway, shite tournament so far ain’t it me ducks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 15 minutes ago, K1FOX said: Nobody but why not? Males are attracted to males and females are attracted to females as well as males to females so why the need for the separation? Well one obvious answer is that maybe it isn't anything to do with 'attraction.' How about because too many men are dangerous creeps around women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: Well one obvious answer is that maybe it isn't anything to do with 'attraction.' How about because too many men are dangerous creeps around women? But aren’t many men dangerous creeps around men? Especially seeing as so many men are born attracted to men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 hour ago, RumbleFox said: The same could be argued for Qatar say? There are less openly gay people in Qatar than England, therefore being born in Qatar means you are less likely to be gay. It's a fabulous and convincing argument, ain't it? Might as well argue that the fact that there are fewer openly gay people in Qatar than England proves that being gay means you are less likely to be born in Qatar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 2 minutes ago, K1FOX said: But aren’t many men dangerous creeps around men? Especially seeing as so many men are born attracted to men? Comparatively - no, not nearly so many men are dangerous creeps around men. Also, dangerous creepiness has little if anything to do with attraction - it's more about power and control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: That website is a religious, right of centre one. Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs. Colour me quite literally amazed. Edited 26 November 2022 by Manley Farrington-Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 2 hours ago, FoxesDeb said: As a straight woman, I'd just like to point out that a man's penis is probably the least attractive part of him. Most men look ok until they take their clothes off, not the other way around, despite what most of you think He's worried about a man coming really hard into his fox hole. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 3 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: Comparatively - no, not nearly so many men are dangerous creeps around men. Also, dangerous creepiness has little if anything to do with attraction - it's more about power and control. Could argue the reason why the numbers are skewed in that favour is because the majority of people including the creeps are heterosexual. As the numbers of gay people grow these figures will change potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesDeb Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 3 minutes ago, K1FOX said: Could argue the reason why the numbers are skewed in that favour is because the majority of people including the creeps are heterosexual. As the numbers of gay people grow these figures will change potentially. I'm curious why you think the numbers of gay people are going to grow? Are gay people immortal? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, K1FOX said: Could argue the reason why the numbers are skewed in that favour is because the majority of people including the creeps are heterosexual. As the numbers of gay people grow these figures will change potentially. The numbers of gay people are probably pretty fixed. The numbers of gay people who feel able to tell people they're gay might grow, but that's not the same thing at all. But this will take us back to the 'choice' argument, and a lot of people were probably bored by that the first time round! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, FoxesDeb said: I'm curious why you think the numbers of gay people are going to grow? Are gay people immortal? More rainbows means more gay people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: The numbers of gay people are probably pretty fixed. The numbers of gay people who feel able to tell people they're gay might grow, but that's not the same thing at all. But this will take us back to the 'choice' argument, and a lot of people were probably bored by that the first time round! See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 Just now, FoxesDeb said: I'm curious why you think the numbers of gay people are going to grow? Are gay people immortal? They are! Gay people have been blessed by the gods with everlasting life, which is going to come as a dreadful shock to the religious homophobe community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 Just now, K1FOX said: More rainbows means more gay people. No. Really doesn't. However more gay people would probably mean more rainbows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 2 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: No. Really doesn't. However more gay people would probably mean more rainbows. It’s a cycle my brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 4 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: They are! Gay people have been blessed by the gods with everlasting life, which is going to come as a dreadful shock to the religious homophobe community. If speaking against gays or gay campaigning makes you a homophobe what does attacking religion make you? Just wondering whether there was a term or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 26 November 2022 Author Share Posted 26 November 2022 8 minutes ago, K1FOX said: It’s a cycle my brother. Genuine question, do you mind poppies at football matches? Minute silences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesDeb Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 7 minutes ago, K1FOX said: More rainbows means more gay people. So you think raising awareness of something increases its incidence? So when we've raised awareness for inclusion of, say, disabled people in the workplace, you think suddenly there are more disabled people? Or just more disabled people able to join new workforces that previously they may have been excluded from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 5 minutes ago, K1FOX said: If speaking against gays or gay campaigning makes you a homophobe what does attacking religion make you? Just wondering whether there was a term or not? (a) Are you saying I'm 'attacking religion' or just asking generally? (b) Are you claiming that there isn't a religious homophobe community? (c) I'm not sure there is a term for someone who is against religion. I guess there must be, but I don't know it. Faithphobe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, RumbleFox said: Genuine question, do you mind poppies at football matches? Minute silences? Honestly speaking there’s way too many minutes silences now. The effect they once had is no longer there. Poppies no issue at all. Respecting those who fought and died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 15 minutes ago, K1FOX said: More rainbows means more gay people. I cant tell if you are joking or wumming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 12 minutes ago, K1FOX said: It’s a cycle my brother. It isn't. But we've been here before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 2 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said: So you think raising awareness of something increases its incidence? So when we've raised awareness for inclusion of, say, disabled people in the workplace, you think suddenly there are more disabled people? Or just more disabled people able to join new workforces that previously they may have been excluded from? Raising awareness and pushing an agenda are two very different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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