FoxesDeb Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, Nalis said: I cant tell if you are joking or wumming Unfortunately it's neither. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 2 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: (a) Are you saying I'm 'attacking religion' or just asking generally? (b) Are you claiming that there isn't a religious homophobe community? (c) I'm not sure there is a term for someone who is against religion. I guess there must be, but I don't know it. Faithphobe? General question. To many people around the world religion comes first. Whether adhering to their beliefs makes them a homophobe or not I don’t believe is of their concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, K1FOX said: Raising awareness and pushing an agenda are two very different things. They really are, but despite knowing this you seem to be conflating them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 26 November 2022 Author Share Posted 26 November 2022 4 minutes ago, K1FOX said: Honestly speaking there’s way too many minutes silences now. The effect they once had is no longer there. Poppies no issue at all. Respecting those who fought and died. Just trying to establish whether it’s “campaigns” in general you’re against or just the gay one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, RumbleFox said: Just trying to establish whether it’s “campaigns” in general you’re against or just the gay one. See the thing with poppies is, it’s once a year at the same time of year, it’s respected and we move on. ‘Rainbows’ is an agenda. All year round everywhere you look. As someone mentioned before, football matches, police vans, police uniforms etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesDeb Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 5 minutes ago, K1FOX said: General question. To many people around the world religion comes first. Whether adhering to their beliefs makes them a homophobe or not I don’t believe is of their concern. If I was them, then, I would be questioning whether their religion was one I wanted to follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 4 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: They really are, but despite knowing this you seem to be conflating them. Im definitely not. Politically correct means you don’t speak against gays and LGBTQ. If you do you’re a homophobe. If I speak against the silence for poppies, or a minutes silence for someone whose passed, or taking the knee etc I’m just making a point rightly or wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 hour ago, K1FOX said: Rules of Qatar are very simple. If you’re Muslim you live by the Muslim laws in the country. If you aren’t you follow secular law and will be tried differently. Fifa should never have given the world cup to Qatar. By all means attack FIFA but respect Qatar and their rules. I didn’t know Sharia law included taking passports off you when working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, FoxesDeb said: If I was them, then, I would be questioning whether their religion was one I wanted to follow. Who are you to tell someone they need to question their religion because it goes against what you believe? World is bigger than the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesDeb Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 Just now, K1FOX said: Who are you to tell someone they need to question their religion because it goes against what you believe? World is bigger than the west. Read what I wrote again. I said 'I'. Three times in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, CosbehFox said: I didn’t know Sharia law included taking passports off you when working. The point was about how people are dealt with when committing an offence so to speak. The passport thing is a migrant worker system - don’t know whether it works for them or not tbh but as far as I’m aware they’re looking at improving it so fair play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, FoxesDeb said: Read what I wrote again. I said 'I'. Three times in fact. Yeah but you’re being hypothetical. You’re not them and we both know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, K1FOX said: Im definitely not. Politically correct means you don’t speak against gays and LGBTQ. If you do you’re a homophobe. If I speak against the silence for poppies, or a minutes silence for someone whose passed, or taking the knee etc I’m just making a point rightly or wrongly. Well if you 'speak against' 'gays and LGBTQ' you are a homophobe. Political correctness has nothing to do with it. Speaking against a rainbow-based campaign is a different thing, and there could, theoretically, I suppose, be reasons for doing that which aren't homophobic, although anecdotal evidence would suggest the overlap is almost total. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 I think perhaps a reading of Poppers Paradox of Tolerance might be a good idea at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc thrummy in Aus Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 Just a observation, 9 of the nation's competing at this world cup currently criminalize homosexuality, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 4 minutes ago, K1FOX said: 6 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said: Read what I wrote again. I said 'I'. Three times in fact. Yeah but you’re being hypothetical. You’re not them and we both know that. Yeah - she used the word 'if,' so I'm pretty sure she knows she was speaking hypothetically. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 26 November 2022 Author Share Posted 26 November 2022 11 minutes ago, K1FOX said: See the thing with poppies is, it’s once a year at the same time of year, it’s respected and we move on. ‘Rainbows’ is an agenda. All year round everywhere you look. As someone mentioned before, football matches, police vans, police uniforms etc etc. I’m being genuine here not trying I push my agenda…… But I just don’t even notice it really? Rainbows “everywhere”? Maybe I’m not very observant? And even when I do see one, it affects my enjoyment of the game 0.0%. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 1 minute ago, RumbleFox said: I’m being genuine here not trying I push my agenda…… But I just don’t even notice it really? Rainbows “everywhere”? Maybe I’m not very observant? And even when I do see one, it affects my enjoyment of the game 0.0%. Well you do you and all that, but seeing a handful of players wearing rainbow laces once a year has ruined football for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lcfc thrummy in Aus said: Just a observation, 9 of the nation's competing at this world cup currently criminalize homosexuality, Just a question, how many of them are hosting it? Edited 26 November 2022 by Manley Farrington-Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc thrummy in Aus Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 Understand your point, but does that make any of the other 8 any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 48 minutes ago, K1FOX said: More rainbows means more gay people. That's one of the weirdest things I've read in a while...... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 2 minutes ago, lcfc thrummy in Aus said: Understand your point, but does that make any of the other 8 any better? Of course not. Do you think any of the people who are on here saying they're not big fans of Qatar's laws relating to gay people are likely to think similar laws are fine in other countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc thrummy in Aus Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 No I'm sure they don't, the point I was indirectly making is could the media shine a bigger spot light on the other 8 countries maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 26 November 2022 Share Posted 26 November 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, lcfc thrummy in Aus said: No I'm sure they don't, the point I was indirectly making is could the media shine a bigger spot light on the other 8 countries maybe. But there’s no need because the football national teams are different to the actual country and it’s government. As widely shown by Iran in the last week. If a player did a homophobic act or the related Fa did, they’d be a story there Edited 26 November 2022 by CosbehFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 26 November 2022 Author Share Posted 26 November 2022 25 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: That's one of the weirdest things I've read in a while...... I know, I loved Rainbow as a kid but I’m straight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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