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Also in the News - Part 2

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32 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Funny how the “It’s their business they can do what they like” crowd support the idea of landlords popping gollywogs up in a pub but not support banks removing accounts from shady Russian puppets. Odd that. 

I support both.  I also expect them to live with the consequences:)

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14 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Sick and tired of hearing this Poxy Government going on and on about 'stopping the small Boats'!!.. Ffs, the Country is on its knees with the cost of living crisis, NHS etc etc... If it spent as much time trying to sort out the real, everyday problems the people of this Country face on a daily basis rather than spewing out the same old rhetoric about stopping the boats, we might just see some improvement in peoples lives!!! 

... God.. I hate this Government!!! 🤬🤬🤬

Best thing you've ever posted.

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1 hour ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Maybe because he takes money from Russia Today and other sanctioned people.

 

The fact we've let an enemy directly interfere in our politics and government is a stain on this country's history that's as big 1066.

 

Yet because it involves people life Boris and farage we're ok with it.

I thought initially he was setting up a pivot to promoting crypto

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18 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Sick and tired of hearing this Poxy Government going on and on about 'stopping the small Boats'!!.. Ffs, the Country is on its knees with the cost of living crisis, NHS etc etc... If it spent as much time trying to sort out the real, everyday problems the people of this Country face on a daily basis rather than spewing out the same old rhetoric about stopping the boats, we might just see some improvement in peoples lives!!! 

... God.. I hate this Government!!! 🤬🤬🤬

 

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On 28/06/2023 at 13:36, leicsmac said:

As much as I embrace tech and see it as key to the future, the internet becoming widely accessible has been a godsend for con artists at all levels - even the very highest.

 

Nowadays you can have whatever "truth" you like delivered direct to your computer screen.

I think the problem with the internet hasn't been so much misleading information but conflict. A lot of voters appear to have been motivated to vote in a particular way out of spite towards a particular group that exists mainly on social media or in their head. See the rants about loony lefties from a radio journalist that no longer posts on here.

 

In terms of "con artists" as you call them, I think the impact of social media has been overstated. Imo in this country most of the damage was done by major news organisations in the years following the financial crash, and the constant articles about Eastern European benefit scroungers or Labour's magic money tree. Not sure there's been a more damaging period to the UK in living memory to be honest.

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4 minutes ago, bovril said:

I think the problem with the internet hasn't been so much misleading information but conflict. A lot of voters appear to have been motivated to vote in a particular way out of spite towards a particular group that exists mainly on social media or in their head. See the rants about loony lefties from a radio journalist that no longer posts on here.

 

In terms of "con artists" as you call them, I think the impact of social media has been overstated. Imo in this country most of the damage was done by major news organisations in the years following the financial crash, and the constant articles about Eastern European benefit scroungers or Labour's magic money tree. Not sure there's been a more damaging period to the UK in living memory to be honest.

And it all started in such an innocent way, it was supposed to be a freely accessable information tool with no boundries, like a lot of great ideas. The lyrics of dire straits sum it up

 

A long time ago came a man on a track
Walking thirty miles with a sack on his back
And he put down his load where he thought it was the best
He made a home in the wilderness
He built a cabin and a winter store
And he ploughed up the ground by the cold lake shore
And the other travellers came walking down the track
And they never went further, no, they never went back
Then came the churches, then came the schools
Then came the lawyers, then came the rules
Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads
And the dirty old track was the Telegraph Road
Then came the mines, then came the ore
Then there was the hard times, then there was a war
Telegraph sang a song about the world outside
Telegraph Road got so deep and so wide
Like a rolling river
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1 hour ago, weller54 said:

Sick and tired of hearing this Poxy Government going on and on about 'stopping the small Boats'!!.. Ffs, the Country is on its knees with the cost of living crisis, NHS etc etc... If it spent as much time trying to sort out the real, everyday problems the people of this Country face on a daily basis rather than spewing out the same old rhetoric about stopping the boats, we might just see some improvement in peoples lives!!! 

... God.. I hate this Government!!! 🤬🤬🤬

Without doing even the most basic things to actually stop them.  Like working properly with the French.  Still in good news, the courts have deemed the Rwanda scheme illegal so at least they might shut up about that.

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1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

Without doing even the most basic things to actually stop them.  Like working properly with the French.  Still in good news, the courts have deemed the Rwanda scheme illegal so at least they might shut up about that.

Call me a cynic, but I said from the day the Rwanda policy was announced on here, the courts were always meant to find it illegal.

 

It was a policy which they knew full well didn't comply with international law and was always designed to fail, just so the government can say "we tried to do something, but those lefty lawyers stopped us. It's their fault, not ours."

 

That's how this current government governs - i.e. they don't actually govern, they just create crisis and identity politics arguments, then create fake solutions that are designed not to work to keep people distracted from how they're running the country to the ground. Tory MPs are on record as saying they know they're not going to win the economic argument so are going to fight the next election on a platform of identity politics (i.e. scapegoating migrations and trans people).

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13 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Are you seriously suggesting that only socialists are capable of empathy?

I reckon Oz is actually a landlord in SW Australia spending his days sipping white wine in his garden and posting on foxestalk about dismantling capitalism. 

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45 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Does a system of economics based on competition and being better than the other guy reward empathy?

Let me put it another way

 

Capital(ism) does not mean just money, the ability to gauge something anyone could wish to attain by a metric of their choosing, the desirable quality, is an extremely potent way to direct the trends available in the free market. For example, only buying using using ethical choices, by using any metric you wish to define IS still capitalism, Its just not based on money, and something we have made huge use of.

 

Would this have been possible with socialism and a more centrally dictated policy? Do not see how, despite the blanket belief by some that goodness is inherent in such a model

 

Yes we need an ethical system of capitalism and what we have now is utterly broken, but capitalism is not too blame

 

As the saying goes, "Guns don't kill people....."

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2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

i'd like someone to actually ask nadine to clarify what a 'kangeroo court' is.  that's one of my bugbears with the media - they just accept  sound bites without pushing back 

Whilst also asking her to clarify what "resigning immediately" means too. 

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2 hours ago, bovril said:

I think the problem with the internet hasn't been so much misleading information but conflict. A lot of voters appear to have been motivated to vote in a particular way out of spite towards a particular group that exists mainly on social media or in their head. See the rants about loony lefties from a radio journalist that no longer posts on here.

 

I think that those two things are intertwined - the misinformation leads to mistrust and dislike of the "other", and conflict naturally results. Misinformation is just one of the ways such conflict is bred.

 

3 hours ago, bovril said:

 

 

In terms of "con artists" as you call them, I think the impact of social media has been overstated. Imo in this country most of the damage was done by major news organisations in the years following the financial crash, and the constant articles about Eastern European benefit scroungers or Labour's magic money tree. Not sure there's been a more damaging period to the UK in living memory to be honest.

If that were 100% true, the UK would be an outlier in terms of what's going on re unrest and polarisation. That really isn't the case, and while the news media have their part in the beginning, the rise and misuse of social media is something that I think has had a major impact and something we should underestimate at our extreme peril.

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