Lionator Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said: Any change to the constitution requires a referendum, so they don't have a choice really. The no vote seems to be on the up, and I can understand why. The case is not being very well made why this is the route that is required vs myriad other options available to them. Fair enough, that makes sense then. I mean Aussie politics is usually so very rational and normal right? I hope the British Labour Party is taking notes from the mistakes the Aussie one is making in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Lionator said: Fair enough, that makes sense then. I mean Aussie politics is usually so very rational and normal right? I hope the British Labour Party is taking notes from the mistakes the Aussie one is making in power. To be fair they are going to give me a $9k tax cut next year, so they are not doing everything wrong. Edited 31 August 2023 by Jon the Hat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballwipe Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 2 hours ago, Nalis said: Cant even stand seeing Letby's face as the picture on articles anymore. Evil little sh it. That montage they use of all her happy smiling faces and then cutting to the mugshot. Sickening, honestly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said: To be fair they are going to give me a $9k tax cut next year, so they are not doing everything wrong. And it all seems rather more calmer and adult than the previous government incarnation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 INJECT IT Charnwood is being broken up; my constituency is turning into 'Melton and Syston' which is projected to look like this: CON38.1%-24.4% LAB37.9%+15.4% LDM6.5%-1.8% GRN7.6%+2.1% RFM9.0%+9.0% OTH0.9%-0.2% Which is amazing enough, because I've always lived in a Tory *megastronghold* constituency. If it's going to be this close I will be launching an anti-Tory campaign with banners, posters and leaflets ****ing everywhere. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: INJECT IT Charnwood is being broken up; my constituency is turning into 'Melton and Syston' which is projected to look like this: CON38.1%-24.4% LAB37.9%+15.4% LDM6.5%-1.8% GRN7.6%+2.1% RFM9.0%+9.0% OTH0.9%-0.2% Which is amazing enough, because I've always lived in a Tory *megastronghold* constituency. If it's going to be this close I will be launching an anti-Tory campaign with banners, posters and leaflets ****ing everywhere. Where does Rutland go? EDIT - think it goes with Stamford. Edited 31 August 2023 by Tuna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 53 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: INJECT IT Charnwood is being broken up; my constituency is turning into 'Melton and Syston' which is projected to look like this: CON38.1%-24.4% LAB37.9%+15.4% LDM6.5%-1.8% GRN7.6%+2.1% RFM9.0%+9.0% OTH0.9%-0.2% Which is amazing enough, because I've always lived in a Tory *megastronghold* constituency. If it's going to be this close I will be launching an anti-Tory campaign with banners, posters and leaflets ****ing everywhere. How far does the new Melton and Syston seat go towards Leicester? Does it include Thurmaston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 43 minutes ago, Tuna said: Where does Rutland go? EDIT - think it goes with Stamford. Becomes Rutland and Stamford again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutland_and_Stamford_(UK_Parliament_constituency) 30 minutes ago, Facecloth said: How far does the new Melton and Syston seat go towards Leicester? Does it include Thurmaston? Yes - Thurmaston, Syston, Sileby, Gaddesby, Croxton, Twyford etc. Basically all the way from Thurmaston up to the villages on the outskirts of Grantham. There's a map at Electoral Calculus which interestingly projects a big Labour victory: https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Melton and Syston Basically means new boundaries will be difficult to predict but if it's shifting in the right direction that's a great sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 52 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Becomes Rutland and Stamford again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutland_and_Stamford_(UK_Parliament_constituency) Yes - Thurmaston, Syston, Sileby, Gaddesby, Croxton, Twyford etc. Basically all the way from Thurmaston up to the villages on the outskirts of Grantham. There's a map at Electoral Calculus which interestingly projects a big Labour victory: https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Melton and Syston Basically means new boundaries will be difficult to predict but if it's shifting in the right direction that's a great sign That area being a Labour constituency would be hilarious. Imagine the hooray Henry’s of Melton. That projection you put is generally on the conservative side of things too, a more realistic scenario is the tories being at 25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 2 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: INJECT IT Charnwood is being broken up; my constituency is turning into 'Melton and Syston' which is projected to look like this: CON38.1%-24.4% LAB37.9%+15.4% LDM6.5%-1.8% GRN7.6%+2.1% RFM9.0%+9.0% OTH0.9%-0.2% Which is amazing enough, because I've always lived in a Tory *megastronghold* constituency. If it's going to be this close I will be launching an anti-Tory campaign with banners, posters and leaflets ****ing everywhere. Good to see the nascent Anarchist insurgency in Lancashire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 27 minutes ago, Lionator said: That area being a Labour constituency would be hilarious. Imagine the hooray Henry’s of Melton. That projection you put is generally on the conservative side of things too, a more realistic scenario is the tories being at 25%. Grantham and Stamford is split, Grantham could well go red, Stamford and Rutland would absolutely stay blue. Grantham said to be quite left leaning but the countryside bits (deepings, Stamford, Bourne) tend to vote Conservative. Grantham only had one labour MP and that was when Quentin Davies crossed the floor in 2008 (?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Lionator said: Not Australian but having only just read about it, this seems like a terrible subject to do a referendum on. People are just going to end up being weaponised, victimised, abused etc. awful. If a politician in the party in power believes this is the right thing to do then they should just roll with it sans referendum. It’s much too easy for the naysayers I’m afraid. I’ll be very surprised if it passes. The request for a Voice to be enshrined in the constitution came from the indigenous community I believe, and that requires a referendum. Can’t believe that a section of “progressives” is campaigning for No. Their argument is that it doesn’t go far enough. Do they really think that a No win will lead to a treaty or something? If this fails it won’t be brought back for perhaps 2 generations I’d expect, truly perfection being the enemy of the good. Worse still, Dutton and the Liberals will be emboldened to continue with their divide and rule tactics, trying to push Australia towards a sort of Trumpism-lite. Edited 31 August 2023 by WigstonWanderer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lionator said: And it all seems rather more calmer and adult than the previous government incarnation? Massive upgrade on the previous bunch of corrupt cvnts. Doesn’t mean that this lot even approach perfection though. Edited 31 August 2023 by WigstonWanderer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66604827 Evidence that dozens of women were groomed into online sex work by members of influencer Andrew Tate's "War Room" group has been uncovered by the BBC. Leaked internal chat logs identify 45 potential victims between March 2019 and April 2020 but the total number is likely to be higher. The texts also appear to show the techniques used by War Room members to exploit possible victims. This just keeps getting worse the more details come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66604827 Evidence that dozens of women were groomed into online sex work by members of influencer Andrew Tate's "War Room" group has been uncovered by the BBC. Leaked internal chat logs identify 45 potential victims between March 2019 and April 2020 but the total number is likely to be higher. The texts also appear to show the techniques used by War Room members to exploit possible victims. This just keeps getting worse the more details come out. But Greta, my fast cars have a higher than average carbon footprint! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fox Covert Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66604827 Evidence that dozens of women were groomed into online sex work by members of influencer Andrew Tate's "War Room" group has been uncovered by the BBC. Leaked internal chat logs identify 45 potential victims between March 2019 and April 2020 but the total number is likely to be higher. The texts also appear to show the techniques used by War Room members to exploit possible victims. This just keeps getting worse the more details come out. Vile piece of 5h1t. I hope Romania has an unimproved hell-hole of a jail which is a relic from the Soviet era to put him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 4 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: Becomes Rutland and Stamford again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutland_and_Stamford_(UK_Parliament_constituency) Yes - Thurmaston, Syston, Sileby, Gaddesby, Croxton, Twyford etc. Basically all the way from Thurmaston up to the villages on the outskirts of Grantham. There's a map at Electoral Calculus which interestingly projects a big Labour victory: https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Melton and Syston Basically means new boundaries will be difficult to predict but if it's shifting in the right direction that's a great sign Don’t know how accurate that site is, and I’m going to ignore anyone who says it isn’t, because it has it down as an 80% chance of this outcome. I’ll explode with joy if we get shot of our grubby Kipper-con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fox Covert Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 On 26/08/2023 at 05:09, Phenom said: I hope Trump is not tried before the 2024 election. He’s not electable and Joe Biden will wipe the floor with him. Biden will have more trouble with other Republicans There is no underestimating the lack of intelligence of some of Trump's supporters. These are the people Jeremy Clarkson was thinking of when he said 'everybody's very fat, everybody's very stupid and everybody's very rude...' I can't remember the one where he talked about vegetables. This is my recent take on Trump in jail getting his prison haircut. Trump is cartoon gold and I have done much more unprintable than this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: INJECT IT Charnwood is being broken up; my constituency is turning into 'Melton and Syston' which is projected to look like this: CON38.1%-24.4% LAB37.9%+15.4% LDM6.5%-1.8% GRN7.6%+2.1% RFM9.0%+9.0% OTH0.9%-0.2% Which is amazing enough, because I've always lived in a Tory *megastronghold* constituency. If it's going to be this close I will be launching an anti-Tory campaign with banners, posters and leaflets ****ing everywhere. I'm glad i'm going to be in a constituency with at least a chance of bombing these inept fools out. Charnwood was always one that I felt would be blue even in the face of Armageddon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 31 August 2023 Author Share Posted 31 August 2023 (edited) Further grim reading towards the Letby case.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66670643 But, imagine if there ever was a re-trail and the new jurors concluded that she wasn't guilty for any 'killings' at all.. Edited 31 August 2023 by Wymsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 https://www.pcgamer.com/oops-they-did-it-again-war-thunder-player-posts-nato-restricted-military-manual-for-what-feels-like-the-hundredth-time/ God I love these middle aged blokes. Just leaking state secrets every couple of months to win an online argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 4 hours ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66604827 Evidence that dozens of women were groomed into online sex work by members of influencer Andrew Tate's "War Room" group has been uncovered by the BBC. Leaked internal chat logs identify 45 potential victims between March 2019 and April 2020 but the total number is likely to be higher. The texts also appear to show the techniques used by War Room members to exploit possible victims. This just keeps getting worse the more details come out. Disgusting. And it's lapped up by millions, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 17 years in prison for one of the US Capitol rioters, Joe Biggs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sideshow Faes Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 8 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: INJECT IT Charnwood is being broken up; my constituency is turning into 'Melton and Syston' which is projected to look like this: CON38.1%-24.4% LAB37.9%+15.4% LDM6.5%-1.8% GRN7.6%+2.1% RFM9.0%+9.0% OTH0.9%-0.2% Which is amazing enough, because I've always lived in a Tory *megastronghold* constituency. If it's going to be this close I will be launching an anti-Tory campaign with banners, posters and leaflets ****ing everywhere. How bad does it have to get for the remaining Tory voters to not vote Tory? Absolutely bizarre how people attach themselves to parties like football club supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 1 September 2023 Share Posted 1 September 2023 5 hours ago, Sideshow Faes said: How bad does it have to get for the remaining Tory voters to not vote Tory? Absolutely bizarre how people attach themselves to parties like football club supporters. I think you need to realize there are millions of people who are completely unaffected by the cost of living crisis (or are happy to blame Putin for their energy costs) or anything else this Tory Government has done. Millions more who are old enough to remember much worse standards or living in their youth, much higher interest rates etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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