bovril Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 Would be interested to hear what right wingers think about the stuff coming out of the conference. Because although I would probably never vote Tory I am a bit of a social conservative and it depresses and worries me that the right in this country is so utterly shit and now seemingly unable to offer anything to the British public other than rehashed US culture war nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesDeb Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 12 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Pretty much, yeah. I think it's a sincerely held belief with a nod to occasional confirmation bias from publications like the Mail. Some people just strongly believe in "self-sufficiency" and social Darwinism and that's their prerogative (met loads in the rural US), but it's likewise the prerogative of other people to point out how erroneous and damaging it is now and certainly will be in the future when applied as policy. Gives me images of the UK equivalent, red faced middle aged men brandishing copies of the Daily Mail muttering about the death penalty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 HS3 Sunak Tory style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 https://news.sky.com/story/factory-worker-who-put-rubber-gloves-and-metal-ring-pulls-in-food-supplied-to-nandos-is-jailed-12975824 Bon Appetit 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Parafox Posted 3 October 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 3 October 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tommy G said: I don't think it's quite like that - if that policy exists then it would only exist within an institution like the NHS. You can't get an ambulance but not to worry, if you have menopause like symtoms as a male you can have a year off full pay. Rubbish Any time off will be planned for and covered. And the proposal is "for consideration". It's not a thing right now. I doubt it would be fully taken up. It's designed to allow the employer to apply the equal right to male staff that applies to female staff. If it was the other way round, it would be seen as a positive step towards equality for women in the workplace. Also, paid leave doesn't mean full pay for a year. After 6 months it goes to half pay, as does every other long term absence and is constantly under review through occupational health and HR. Edited 3 October 2023 by Parafox 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Milo said: https://news.sky.com/story/factory-worker-who-put-rubber-gloves-and-metal-ring-pulls-in-food-supplied-to-nandos-is-jailed-12975824 Bon Appetit 😕 Bloke watched too much Kenan and Kel Edited 3 October 2023 by Tommy Fresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lionator Posted 3 October 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 3 October 2023 This will probably be removed but Braverman really is the lowest of the low, the thickest of the thick, a pathetic excuse of a human being. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 4 hours ago, Finnegan said: I just find it really transparent and obvious and depressing that more people don't. The anti 15 minute cities stuff absolutely screams "billionaires made up conspiracy theory" pushed by those with a vested interest in automobiles and fossil fuels. How nuts would you otherwise have to be to turn a benign urban planning theory in to New World Order? Fvck sakes. Same with all the anti abortion, anti birth control, anti millennial nonsense about not having babies et all. Got nothing to do with religion or morality it's just rich people panicking they the labour force is getting older & declining. It feels as if we're days away from Tory messaging being a series of unintelligible grunts and squawks, which will be accepted by the party base provided they are accompanied by an assurance that the bestial sounds are simple common sense and very right wing. I know a lot of folk who vote Conservative who are small 'c' conservatives at heart and will always vote for them as they know no different but I do wonder what they really think about this lot because I don't think their actual values could be more different 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 1 hour ago, Parafox said: Rubbish Any time off will be planned for and covered. And the proposal is "for consideration". It's not a thing right now. I doubt it would be fully taken up. It's designed to allow the employer to apply the equal right to male staff that applies to female staff. If it was the other way round, it would be seen as a positive step towards equality for women in the workplace. Also, paid leave doesn't mean full pay for a year. After 6 months it goes to half pay, as does every other long term absence and is constantly under review through occupational health and HR. Respectfully disagree with most of that, and if i put in black and white what I really think I’d get a ban. You’d assume that’s because I have a view of a backwards pig, whilst I’m all for progressive “policies” this to me screams madness, in my opinion. Thanks for explaining to me how the HR system works, I’m toe to toe with them most days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said: It feels as if we're days away from Tory messaging being a series of unintelligible grunts and squawks, which will be accepted by the party base provided they are accompanied by an assurance that the bestial sounds are simple common sense and very right wing. I know a lot of folk who vote Conservative who are small 'c' conservatives at heart and will always vote for them as they know no different but I do wonder what they really think about this lot because I don't think their actual values could be more different You can’t even vote Tory these days to get a tax break, the working man (phrase not being sexist for all the sensitive souls) is paying more tax now than ever, Rishi even tried to make out inflation was a tax he was cutting in half! Edited 3 October 2023 by Tommy G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 18 minutes ago, Tommy G said: Respectfully disagree with most of that, and if i put in black and white what I really think I’d get a ban. You’d assume that’s because I have a view of a backwards pig, whilst I’m all for progressive “policies” this to me screams madness, in my opinion. Thanks for explaining to me how the HR system works, I’m toe to toe with them most days. So... small scale fission plants and renewables replacing oil and gas for energy generation ASAP to prevent disaster then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: So... small scale fission plants and renewables replacing oil and gas for energy generation ASAP to prevent disaster then? I’ll agree with you it’s easier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 4 minutes ago, Tommy G said: I’ll agree with you it’s easier Fair enough, mon ami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 Beginning of the end for HS2? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66998692 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 4 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Beginning of the end for HS2? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66998692 What an unbelievable farce. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 4 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Beginning of the end for HS2? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66998692 I'm shocked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lionator Posted 3 October 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 3 October 2023 1 hour ago, Tommy G said: You can’t even vote Tory these days to get a tax break, the working man (phrase not being sexist for all the sensitive souls) is paying more tax now than ever, Rishi even tried to make out inflation was a tax he was cutting in half! This is basically it. Right or left wing, if you’re paying high taxes (although ours aren’t that high compared to our neighbours), then you want bang for your buck. A good health service, water service, roads, public transport etc, we have none of that. Your taxes just get spaffed straight to ‘investors’, most of whom aren’t even British citizens. It’s peak 2010+ onwards Toryism. Take from the poor to give to the rich, and then blame other poor people (benefit claimants, migrants) for this. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesDeb Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 28 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Beginning of the end for HS2? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66998692 Not a surprise, but such a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 3 October 2023 Author Share Posted 3 October 2023 The state of the debris around the planet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 5 minutes ago, Wymsey said: The state of the debris around the planet.. ...and that's just the larger, more visible pieces. That being said, we've still got something of a grasp on the situation for now, but we do have to be very careful in the future - triggering Kessler Syndrome would be catastrophic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 25 minutes ago, leicsmac said: ...and that's just the larger, more visible pieces. That being said, we've still got something of a grasp on the situation for now, but we do have to be very careful in the future - triggering Kessler Syndrome would be catastrophic. And it’s not static. Used to work co-developing micrometeorite detectors. Those little buggers do quite some damage given their velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 New LibDem ad campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 23 minutes ago, Daggers said: New LibDem ad campaign Rish! has gotten taller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 3 hours ago, Lionator said: This will probably be removed but Braverman really is the lowest of the low, the thickest of the thick, a pathetic excuse of a human being. I think the tactic is that we know the country is busted so our only hope is to blame foreigners as it will appeal to a certain section of the public. It worked with Brexit so it might again 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 October 2023 Share Posted 3 October 2023 1 hour ago, Daggers said: And it’s not static. Used to work co-developing micrometeorite detectors. Those little buggers do quite some damage given their velocity. Oh yes. Isaac Newton is still the deadliest SOB in the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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