Lionator Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 38 minutes ago, Sly said: What would class it as a World War III? Reading this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts It’s surprising just how many ongoing conflicts we have worldwide currently. It’s not ww3. It’s a small scale regional conflict that flares up every decade or so, only on this occasion it’s flared up more than usual and the global media are treating it like the apocalypse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 Can someone more educated on this topic post where to read up on the divide? I tried after all the free Palestine posts (honestly, after the FA Cup final when Hamza showed the flag), but it wasn’t as clear cut to me. Now I live in the states I’m seeing a tonne of Jewish colleagues come out in anger. Are both of these things related? Whats the TLDR here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 22 minutes ago, st albans fox said: If it’s true Sunil the first casualty of war etc etc ………… If it has happened then you’d hope that those responsible would be brought to justice. But I doubt that will happen given that the boy has clearly been taken from the scene to be treated and those who did it won’t come forward. Wouldn’t expect that we’ll ever find out the truth on this. I saw the video on social media shortly after posting. It's not a pleasant sight 12 minutes ago, KFS said: Can someone more educated on this topic post where to read up on the divide? I tried after all the free Palestine posts (honestly, after the FA Cup final when Hamza showed the flag), but it wasn’t as clear cut to me. Now I live in the states I’m seeing a tonne of Jewish colleagues come out in anger. Are both of these things related? Whats the TLDR here? ITV News did a good summary of the history earlier this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wymsey Posted 9 October 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted 9 October 2023 Some people don't realise how lucky they are in living in the United Kingdom. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 14 minutes ago, KFS said: Can someone more educated on this topic post where to read up on the divide? I tried after all the free Palestine posts (honestly, after the FA Cup final when Hamza showed the flag), but it wasn’t as clear cut to me. Now I live in the states I’m seeing a tonne of Jewish colleagues come out in anger. Are both of these things related? Whats the TLDR here? I think this may be reasonably unbiased and factual https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine/Resurgence-of-Palestinian-identity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 6 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I think this may be reasonably unbiased and factual https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine/Resurgence-of-Palestinian-identity Thanks pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFCCHRIS Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 17 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Some people don't realise how lucky they are in living in the United Kingdom. And the reality is that our imperial past has really helped our current higher standard of living. That and being an island has made us tougher to invade in more modern history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 17 minutes ago, LCFCCHRIS said: And the reality is that our imperial past has really helped our current higher standard of living. That and being an island has made us tougher to invade in more modern history. Funny thing is that during the time it was going on many of the population was living in miserable conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzerfox Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 1 hour ago, Sly said: What would class it as a World War III? Reading this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts It’s surprising just how many ongoing conflicts we have worldwide currently. It would probably have to be the 2 biggest superpowers involved in conflict, including with NATO I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 10 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: Funny thing is that during the time it was going on many of the population was living in miserable conditions Probably the most significant improvement in living standards in Britain happened immediately after the end of the Empire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wortho Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 If only Hamas had youth clubs to attend. Perhaps they wouldn’t have slaughtered 700 men, women and children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 24 minutes ago, bovril said: Probably the most significant improvement in living standards in Britain happened immediately after the end of the Empire The most pronounced social mobility was in the wake of the two wars, was it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 What with the ever growing unrest and complicated international involvements in a variety of conflicts - are we on the cusp of WW3. I ask out of curiosity. I'm not knowledgeable enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, foxile5 said: What with the ever growing unrest and complicated international involvements in a variety of conflicts - are we on the cusp of WW3. I ask out of curiosity. I'm not knowledgeable enough. Speaking personally and subjectively, I don't think so, purely because WW3 would involve the major players against each other and all of them know how that inevitably ends - devastating mutual loss for all of them. And thankfully, all of them are interested in self-preservation enough for them to not trigger that purely because they can. There's going to be a lot of regional conflict, but then that's hardly new and stopping that has been a failure of the powerful international community for a long time now. Edit: Of course, if large tracts of land across the globe become uninhabitable and basic resources become much more costly as a result of increasing temperatures, then that might have an unpleasant effect on the landscape. Edited 9 October 2023 by leicsmac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 19 minutes ago, foxile5 said: The most pronounced social mobility was in the wake of the two wars, was it not? Shame it took over a million dead to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 9 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: Shame it took over a million dead to get there. I wasn't suggesting it was a good trade off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 3 minutes ago, foxile5 said: I wasn't suggesting it was a good trade off. No I didn't think you were. More a comment on the lives lost that did not see the upturn in standards. You can imagine the voters in 1945 thinking we want change and not to go back to the 30s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 7 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: No I didn't think you were. More a comment on the lives lost that did not see the upturn in standards. You can imagine the voters in 1945 thinking we want change and not to go back to the 30s Hence the shift from conservatives - who had led the country through the wars - to a more socialist government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 Just now, foxile5 said: Hence the shift from conservatives - who had led the country through the wars - to a more socialist government. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 Ella Baron - political cartoon gallery in London 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Munshi Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 5 hours ago, LFox99 said: So now they're crying victim? I'll also gladly ignore any articles or posts that are by AlJazeera. Only two days ago they had a man on air who proudly proclaimed that the Palestinian people will never stop fighting as long as there are still Jews living in Israel. What can you expect from a station which is owned by Qatari royalty, the same royalty who harbours the Hamas leadership in luxury, away from their supposed home And I take it you ignore Sky news etc the same way too because we all know who owns them and which side of the fence majority of the media are on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eblair Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Happy Fox said: Gaza is an open air prison, but there are two nations which ensure that is the case (Egypt as well) Edited 10 October 2023 by eblair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsr-burnley Posted 9 October 2023 Share Posted 9 October 2023 3 hours ago, foxile5 said: The most pronounced social mobility was in the wake of the two wars, was it not? I don't think it was because of the world wars, even though it was at about the same time. Increased social mobility was because of increased wealth among the poorer people. My grandparents were among the pioneers among people who worked in the cotton mills, in buying their own home via a mortgage, with electricity throughout and an inside bathroom with hot and cold running water. That was 1926. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 10 October 2023 Share Posted 10 October 2023 10 hours ago, Lionator said: It’s not ww3. It’s a small scale regional conflict that flares up every decade or so, only on this occasion it’s flared up more than usual and the global media are treating it like the apocalypse. Sorry Lionator, I was responding to someone else that asked about us creeping toward a world war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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