Unabomber Posted 10 March 2023 Share Posted 10 March 2023 1 minute ago, Daggers said: I for one welcome our new politics thread That’s the premier league thread. How things change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 10 March 2023 Share Posted 10 March 2023 15 minutes ago, Tommy G said: I didn’t say that - I think sometimes his views are done for effect, he always like to be controversial - not that this latest hyperbole is anything controversial and I agree with his viewpoint. That's your opinion on Linekers views, I personally think he's genuine but I still think the term champagne socialist is meaningless buzzwords and its not generally used in the context of someone giving their opinion for effect, its a term to describe rich people who believe in helping those worse off than them. But we'll leave it here, last time we discussed Lineker and Neville you called me an idiot and I got banned (go figure eh), so I'd rather not be insulted and banned again 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 10 March 2023 Share Posted 10 March 2023 23 minutes ago, Daggers said: I for one welcome our new politics thread How long before the kibosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 10 March 2023 Share Posted 10 March 2023 18 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: How long before the kibosh Mods are simple people, just distract them with a Friday night thread about boobs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spudulike Posted 10 March 2023 Share Posted 10 March 2023 4 hours ago, Bordersfox said: At least now I've got a genuine reason not to watch MOTD that doesn't involve us being absolutely shite. I think it might improve the show. Looking forward to it (unless we lose then I won't bother). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordersfox Posted 10 March 2023 Share Posted 10 March 2023 2 minutes ago, Spudulike said: I think it might improve the show. Looking forward to it (unless we lose then I won't bother). I've never been a huge fan of the analysis but, although I'd never admit it to friends, I've always sneakily liked hearing a Leicester accent presenting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 11 March 2023 Share Posted 11 March 2023 I'll be honest, the not airing of one of the Attenborough doc episodes for fear of what it might entail worries me more than the Lineker controv, in any case. What Sir David has to highlight regarding biodiversity is both accurate and far more consequential for the future. Looking away from what we're doing to the planet simply because we don't like what we see won't make it go away and won't spare us from the consequences down the line. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHawk Posted 11 March 2023 Share Posted 11 March 2023 6 hours ago, Dunge said: Look, I’m typically a Conservative voter, but I can’t justify these actions. This isn’t the Conservative Party I recognise. They desperately need a walloping electoral loss and a big cull, like Corbyn’s lot got last time around. *Ironically I don’t mind Sunak, but the people he has behind him are just atrocious. And let’s never forget they voted for and wanted the worst and most stupid prime minister in the history of the UK, Liz Truss. The fact this post doesn't end with the name Boris Johnson, just shows the absolute shit show we have lived through the last few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 11 March 2023 Share Posted 11 March 2023 9 hours ago, Facecloth said: That's your opinion on Linekers views, I personally think he's genuine but I still think the term champagne socialist is meaningless buzzwords and its not generally used in the context of someone giving their opinion for effect, its a term to describe rich people who believe in helping those worse off than them. But we'll leave it here, last time we discussed Lineker and Neville you called me an idiot and I got banned (go figure eh), so I'd rather not be insulted and banned again I don’t recall, but have a great weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 11 March 2023 Share Posted 11 March 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 11 March 2023 Share Posted 11 March 2023 (edited) oops ! Edited 11 March 2023 by Mike Oxlong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkidsFox Posted 11 March 2023 Share Posted 11 March 2023 Worth keeping an eye on that bank going under in Silicon Valley. Some people are concerned it may spread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkidsFox Posted 12 March 2023 Share Posted 12 March 2023 23 hours ago, SkidsFox said: Worth keeping an eye on that bank going under in Silicon Valley. Some people are concerned it may spread. Hearing reports that Harry and Meghan kept their money in Silicon Valley Bank. Ouch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 12 March 2023 Share Posted 12 March 2023 On 11/03/2023 at 10:28, SkidsFox said: Worth keeping an eye on that bank going under in Silicon Valley. Some people are concerned it may spread. Poor Bank!.. 'I cannot believe it's not better'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 12 March 2023 Share Posted 12 March 2023 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64931074 Hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 12 March 2023 Share Posted 12 March 2023 3 hours ago, SkidsFox said: Hearing reports that Harry and Meghan kept their money in Silicon Valley Bank. Ouch. As much as this initially amused me, I realised the downside, if true, is more fuching books and TV shows to recoup the losses. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guvnor Posted 13 March 2023 Share Posted 13 March 2023 Whether you agree with Gary’s sentiment or not, you have to say his choice of words were at best ill -thought-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leicsmac Posted 13 March 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 13 March 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The Guvnor said: Whether you agree with Gary’s sentiment or not, you have to say his choice of words were at best ill -thought-out. If we look at what he wrote (1930s Germany) as opposed to what people think he wrote or want to say he wrote to discredit it (early 1940s Germany in full Reich mode), then I think his words are pretty well thought out tbh. Edited 13 March 2023 by leicsmac 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guvnor Posted 13 March 2023 Share Posted 13 March 2023 53 minutes ago, leicsmac said: If we look at what he wrote (1930s Germany) as opposed to what people think he wrote or want to say he wrote to discredit it (early 1940s Germany in full Reich mode), then I think his words are pretty well thought out tbh. Hitler entered politics just after the First World War, and in 1933 came to power and turned Germany into a dictatorship. You are of course entitled to your opinion but many Jews have already registered their opinion that it trivialises the holocaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leicsmac Posted 13 March 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 13 March 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Guvnor said: Hitler entered politics just after the First World War, and in 1933 came to power and turned Germany into a dictatorship. You are of course entitled to your opinion but many Jews have already registered their opinion that it trivialises the holocaust. And those Jewish luminaries are of course welcome to their well-informed opinion too. However, I am curious as to how a reference to events nearly a decade before, if in the same country, "trivialises the Holocaust" while making no reference to it whatsoever. If it's just the mention of the regime that carried out that (even if in the context of a fair while before) causes people to associate the two directly, then fair enough - but the Holocaust wasn't the start of it all. It began much earlier, with "othering" language and legislation that, like it or not, does have parallels today. Edited 13 March 2023 by leicsmac 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 13 March 2023 Share Posted 13 March 2023 16 minutes ago, leicsmac said: And those Jewish luminaries are of course welcome to their well-informed opinion too. However, I am curious as to how a reference to events nearly a decade before, if in the same country, "trivialises the Holocaust" while making no reference to it whatsoever. If it's just the mention of the regime that carried out that (even if in the context of a fair while before) causes people to associate the two directly, then fair enough - but the Holocaust wasn't the start of it all. It began much earlier, with "othering" language and legislation that, like it or not, does have parallels today. In 1935 the Nuremberg Race laws were signed. Mein Kampf was written in 1925. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 13 March 2023 Share Posted 13 March 2023 3 minutes ago, kenny said: In 1935 the Nuremberg Race laws were signed. Mein Kampf was written in 1925. Can I ask what you're driving at here, because I'm not sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobyfox1990 Posted 13 March 2023 Share Posted 13 March 2023 1 hour ago, The Guvnor said: Whether you agree with Gary’s sentiment or not, you have to say his choice of words were at best ill -thought-out. Agreed. I support what Lineker said (even excusing my Leicester bias) but pointing readers down the track towards the Nazis and the current Govt is ill-thought out. Even if what he TECHNICALLY!!!!!!!!!! said is true, substance over form in this case, we know what the average person is going to think when you compare something to 1930s Germany, without trying to find loopholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 13 March 2023 Share Posted 13 March 2023 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: Can I ask what you're driving at here, because I'm not sure? Just that I hope we aren't close to signing laws that marginalise particular races. Also that Mein Kampf was written in the 1920's and pre-dates the 'language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 30'. My hope is that GL is incorrect in his tweet and we haven't ended up in the place he implies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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