Nick Posted 22 April 2023 Share Posted 22 April 2023 36 minutes ago, Daggers said: "...unreasonably and persistently aggressive..." Anyone know if Raab can play defensive midfield? I doubt they play football at the school he attended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 22 April 2023 Share Posted 22 April 2023 6 hours ago, Nick said: I doubt they play football at the school he attended. Wrong Tory. He is one of those thick Tories that wasnt clever enough to end up in a fee paying school for kids with wealthy parents and had to settle for passing exams to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 22 April 2023 Share Posted 22 April 2023 9 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: He doesn't have a lot of gravitas as such, but by various accounts Number 10 is being run more professionally than it has been for years, and he is 100% on top of the facts while also being able to delegate. If anything then I think he is not a typical heavyweight, but I'm not sure fair to call him lightweight. Meanwhile I think with Raab he has played it about as well as he could have - due process had to be followed, and once the report came out he has acted swiftly. Raab can say what he likes to the media, he is gone, his frontline political career is done. Calling Starmer Sir Softy twice in PMQ's is straight out of the Johnson Playbook. Nah Jon. He's lightweight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 8 hours ago, l444ry said: Calling Starmer Sir Softy twice in PMQ's is straight out of the Johnson Playbook. Nah Jon. He's lightweight. Do we have any heavyweight politicians any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthyfox Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 44 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Do we have any heavyweight politicians any more? Been saying it for years- this country is having a Leadership crisis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 53 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Do we have any heavyweight politicians any more? Not since Eric Pickles stood down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 2 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: Do we have any heavyweight politicians any more? We have a couple that we can send you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo61 Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: He doesn't have a lot of gravitas as such, but by various accounts Number 10 is being run more professionally than it has been for years, and he is 100% on top of the facts while also being able to delegate. If anything then I think he is not a typical heavyweight, but I'm not sure fair to call him lightweight. Meanwhile I think with Raab he has played it about as well as he could have - due process had to be followed, and once the report came out he has acted swiftly. Raab can say what he likes to the media, he is gone, his frontline political career is done. He did nothing of the sort, the report was delivered to him on Thursday morning and a strong PM would have had Raab straight in his room to be told he was sacked. No Sunak, let Raab control the narrative by resigning the next day. He has also allowed Raab to trash the the report and CS, any strong PM would now be withdrawing the Whip. To be fair to the PM though, his party is pretty much ungovernable currently and I doubt whether Churchill could have done much of a job with it in its current state. Edited 23 April 2023 by Robo61 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 I don’t dislike Sunak. He seems basically competent and inoffensive, and he was the only one in the Conservative leadership contest with any clue about the economy. (I’m still amazed the membership voted for Liz Truss. Liz. Truss.) But the Conservatives need a clearout of an increasingly arrogant right wing and Sunak doesn’t look like the person to do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 Diane Abbott suspended for being a massive racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 9 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Diane Abbott suspended for being a massive racist. Starmer taking swift action, unlike Sunak. Abbotts excuse pathetic. Claiming it was due to a first draft being sent. The whole letter is in response to an article about racism not just being between blacks and whites and how it sometimes targets other group. She disputes it and the whole letter is her disputing it, so not sure what other draft she could have sent in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 2 minutes ago, Facecloth said: Starmer taking swift action, unlike Sunak. Abbotts excuse pathetic. Claiming it was due to a first draft being sent. The whole letter is in response to an article about racism not just being between blacks and whites and how it sometimes targets other group. She disputes it and the whole letter is her disputing it, so not sure what other draft she could have sent in. She could at least have just said she wrote it while drinking on the tube. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 Monumentally stupid going anywhere near such a subject and taking focus off Raab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 2 minutes ago, Milo said: Monumentally stupid going anywhere near such a subject and taking focus off Raab Can't believe I've just seen Diane Abbott and monumentally stupid in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 Liking going 1-0 up and letting a goal in straight away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy boxing Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 She is just a completely stupid woman who doesn't learn from her mistakes. There are different types of racism. Do these politicians not have media training or people that tell them what is or isn't acceptable to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 11 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Liking going 1-0 up and letting a goal in straight away Well not really as it shown the difference in strong, decisive leadership in one party and the weak, indecisive leadership of the other. Labour, as soon as aware of it suspended her, the Tories when made aware of the finding of the Raab report let him decide to resign. We were aware of this under Johnson and now its continuing under Sunak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 (edited) It’s so dumb. Her argument was literally “I don’t think Jews and the Irish ever really experienced racism as they were never banned from sitting on a certain seat in a bus or sold into slavery.” I mean, that’s because they were being murdered and massacred based on their ethnicity… Edited 23 April 2023 by Sampson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 I remember Abbot complaining about foreign nurses in London who were only here "to improve their English", so I don't what people expect. Deeply unpleasant woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 6 minutes ago, bovril said: I remember Abbot complaining about foreign nurses in London who were only here "to improve their English", so I don't what people expect. Deeply unpleasant woman. About 15 years ago she was on national tv saying "On balance Mao did more good than harm". That should have been the end of her then. She's vile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 (edited) . Edited 23 April 2023 by Izzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalFox Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 You have to be more careful what you say in the social media outrage age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 48 minutes ago, LiberalFox said: You have to be more careful what you say in the social media outrage age. In relation to Dianne Abbott? Nothing to do with social media. Her comments were monumentally stupid and deliberately sent to the Observer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 4 hours ago, Zear0 said: Can't believe I've just seen Diane Abbott and monumentally stupid in the same sentence. Because it's tautology? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalFox Posted 23 April 2023 Share Posted 23 April 2023 56 minutes ago, Captain... said: In relation to Dianne Abbott? Nothing to do with social media. Her comments were monumentally stupid and deliberately sent to the Observer. Just seems like an overreaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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