PhillippaT Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 1 minute ago, Babylon said: Told you that did he? Unexpected this is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 1 minute ago, PhillippaT said: Unexpected this is... Alright Yoda. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stinkenzo Posted 14 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 14 January 2023 Bit unrelated, but spending 100m on a new training ground was an absolute waste of money and nobody can convince me otherwise 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 Yoda yoda yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 Just now, Stinky said: Bit unrelated, but spending 100m on a new training ground was an absolute waste of money and nobody can convince me otherwise OK. Thanks for the heads up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_LCFC14 Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 4 minutes ago, Babylon said: Told you that did he? Yes mate, messaged me this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 1 minute ago, taupe said: OK. Thanks for the heads up. OK great post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 3 hours ago, glos-fox said: Footballs a lot like F1 you can have a fantastic driver but If you don't keep upgrading the car you will get left behind that's precisely what's happening here total mismanagement. You surely aren't deluded enough to think Rodgers is a 'fantastic driver '? I think Liverpool, Celtic and now us tends to show that although he's initially been given a very decent car, he burns it off the grid to great acclaim but, when he starts to get challenged by other drivers, he flounders quickly when no longer near to pole position. It's why F1 teams regularly change drivers as the best manage to get the best out of a lesser car even if they don't manage to win the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Stinky said: OK great post Thanks but don't be so humble. Your's was better. Edit: I can play this forever you know. Edited 14 January 2023 by taupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebluefox85 Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 (edited) I think owners have been naive in many ways in recent years I’m mean looks at some of the signings slimani musa ghazzel vesty bertrand perez silva couldn’t even sign him properly Just a few not many of them are under the 20m mark. The club is being ran like utter shite at this particular point in time! There has been a few warning signs and fans have ignored it like the fact we couldn’t even get our kit out on time the other season! Top needs to get a grip sack a few in the board room and bring in some stronger people to take the club forward! That are not afraid to make a few big decisions when needed too! Edited 14 January 2023 by Thebluefox85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woznotwos Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 It does seem that since the training ground was built we have been hampered with injuries. Maybe just a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 9 minutes ago, Stinky said: Bit unrelated, but spending 100m on a new training ground was an absolute waste of money and nobody can convince me otherwise The training ground is alright, not convinced we needed the on site hotel and golf course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastAnglianFox Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 1 minute ago, Sly said: The training ground is alright, not convinced we needed the on site hotel and golf course. I've a feeling the players may disagree with that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 4 minutes ago, Stinky said: Bit unrelated, but spending 100m on a new training ground was an absolute waste of money and nobody can convince me otherwise It’s an impossible thing to measure, nobody will ever be able to prove its impact. From player retention, to helping with recruiting players, first team and youth etc. We’d only have to produce a couple of top young talents in the lifespan of the complex to pay for it. But we’ll never know if the facilities impressed said player and their families to come here. What you do see on social media (if you search). Is the constant rave reviews from coaches at other clubs and parents of kids coming to play there with other teams, about how amazing it is. It’s bound to have an impact. There is a good argument for whether ground expansion would have been better being the first project. But what I won’t have is that pumping money into players would have been definitely been better. We’ve wasted hundreds of millions on players since we got promoted. Most of whom we ended up giving away or losing for nothing when their contracts ran out. Now that was a complete waste of money… the training ground on the other hand will still be here when we are all dead and buried 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 1 minute ago, woznotwos said: It does seem that since the training ground was built we have been hampered with injuries. Maybe just a coincidence. No coincidence, the players helped in the construction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillippaT Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: You surely aren't deluded enough to think Rodgers is a 'fantastic driver '? I think Liverpool, Celtic and now us tends to show that although he's initially been given a very decent car, he burns it off the grid to great acclaim but, when he starts to get challenged by other drivers, he flounders quickly when no longer near to pole position. It's why F1 teams regularly change drivers as the best manage to get the best out of a lesser car even if they don't manage to win the race. We have a lot of problems to solve here at LCFC atm, and unfortunately BR is one of them... Although we really needed to start rebuilding last season to carry into this one (3 yr cycles), it never really happened, so now we're going backwards and BR obviously also has no idea how to really stop it. A good manager in this situation would at least be able to get a team together that isn't easy to beat, even if they struggle to win due to all the injuries - but that's not what we're getting now, which is why it's become obvious the BR is no longer either good enough, or the manager we need. Edited 14 January 2023 by PhillippaT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 3 minutes ago, Thebluefox85 said: I think owners have been naive in many ways in recent years I’m mean looks at some of the signings slimani musa ghazzel vesty bertrand perez silva couldn’t even sign him properly Just a few not many of them are under the 20m mark. The club is being ran like utter shite at this particular point in time! There has been a few warning signs and fans have ignored it like the fact we couldn’t even get our kit out on time the other season! Top needs to get a grip sack a few in the board room and bring in some stronger people to take the club forward! That are not afraid to make a few big decisions when needed too! Top didn’t sign the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 3 minutes ago, woznotwos said: It does seem that since the training ground was built we have been hampered with injuries. Maybe just a coincidence. It started before we moved in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 4 minutes ago, Thebluefox85 said: I think owners have been naive in many ways in recent years I’m mean looks at some of the signings slimani musa ghazzel vesty bertrand perez silva couldn’t even sign him properly Just a few not many of them are under the 20m mark. The club is being ran like utter shite at this particular point in time! There has been a few warning signs and fans have ignored it like the fact we couldn’t even get our kit out on time the other season! Top needs to get a grip sack a few in the board room and bring in some stronger people to take the club forward! That are not afraid to make a few big decisions when needed too! Even worse than that, Slimani, Musa Ghezzal and Sliva would be an improvement on the current squad. Sadly, I'm not even joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 1 minute ago, PhillippaT said: We have a lot of problems to solve here at LCFC atm, and unfortunately BR is one of them... Although we really needed to start rebuilding last season to carry into this one (3 yr cycles), it never really happened, so now we're going backwards and BR obviously also has no idea how to really stop it. A good manager in this situation would at least be able to get a team together that isn't easy to beat, even if they struggle to win due to all the injuries - but that's not what we're getting now, which is why it's become obvious the BR is no longer either good enough, or the manager we need. Absolutely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 Whether it’s right time for them to sell is up to them. However, it would time for us if they did choose to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wardyfox86 Posted 14 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 14 January 2023 17 minutes ago, Stinky said: Bit unrelated, but spending 100m on a new training ground was an absolute waste of money and nobody can convince me otherwise Spend what you like on a toolbox, but if you fill it full of shit tools you'll never get the job done. Backroom staff have regressed more than any other aspect during Rodgers tenure. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebluefox85 Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 5 minutes ago, Babylon said: Top didn’t sign the players He authorised them tho 👍🏻 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 Just now, Sly said: The training ground is alright, not convinced we needed the on site hotel and golf course. Of course its a great facility but as weird as it sounds, why does a club our size need one of the best training facilities in the world? It's a bit like 3rd or 4th tier Darlington building that 25k all seater stadium which eventually killed them By all means build a new training ground but I fail to understand why we went so big on it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 14 January 2023 Share Posted 14 January 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Thebluefox85 said: He authorised them tho 👍🏻 I very much doubt it in the sense you mean mate. He’ll give Rudkin a budget and anything below that budget he’ll give him carte blanche to pull the trigger and sign off. I very much doubt Top is interested in micromanaging any parts of the club to be honest. And for the record I bet that was the same with his old man too. This is how every business works, I don’t need to ask for my business owners permission every time I need to make a decision at work. Edited 14 January 2023 by Manini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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