Xen Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 29 minutes ago, shiv said: This feels like nonsense. If his contract was suspended then he couldn't have signed 'on loan' for Lyon - it would've been a short-term regular contract instead (i.e. no option to buy). Even if it is true though that we can't buy him (yet), then surely we'd just agree a loan with compulsory buy clause in June, which would be functionally the same thing as a normal transfer (except maybe a difference in how the player's wages are structured). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 Ok - I am stumped on why we can't sign him beyond June, but here is my best guess without seeing the papers. When the war in Ukraine broke out, in order to suspend the contract, Shaktar triggered the Force Majeure clause within the contract. That effectively suspends the contract performance - that means the date on which the contract ends is not what we think it is. The contract is essentially frozen until such time that the FM event subsides or the contract allows for termination of either party. However, the above analogy still causes me with two problems. 1) The FM event, has continued for so long that effectively the contract should've frustrated (ended on the basis that the contract cannot conclude). 2) there is no reason why he cant sign for us beyond June. But otherwise, I can't work it out. If we sign him, we have bought out a suspended contract and therefore he can sign with us (an altogether third party for as long as he wants). Murdyk deal to Chelsea was different because the FM clause to suspend was triggered on Ukrainian players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LestaLad Posted 27 January 2023 Author Share Posted 27 January 2023 Dorsett knows nothing and just wants to act like he knows something. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyJim1987 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 To be fair it's not Dorsett, this is being reported everywhere. He's not on loan at Lyon he is on a short term deal, and his contact with Donetsk is suspended until 30 June, hence why we can only sign him until then I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyJim1987 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 The whole internet though believes he's joining Leeds and we are getting Harrison. 😩😩😩 Hopefully not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboFox Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: Pob Porsett ratioed + cucked + washed + finished reporter + Fabrizio is clear This is the kind of quality post I come here for. Edited 27 January 2023 by RoboFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 I’m already prepared to be let down. Please put me out of my misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 8 minutes ago, LestaLad said: Dorsett knows nothing and just wants to act like he knows something. It would be a strange thing to write if he wasn’t very confident about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post manders86 Posted 27 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 27 January 2023 Same person that told me the other day talks had broke through has told me we are 95% of the way there... Pretty obvious as Fab has tweeted but still. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 59 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: I ****ing love the wild emotionality of this forum sometimes. The last 8 pages have been a wild ride Peak Foxes Talk. And I’m all for it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Eaton Fox Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 39 minutes ago, dmayne7 said: It's over. He plays for Leeds according to the most official of all sources; Wikipedia... Now says he plays for Leicester on Wikipedia. Ok own up, which of you did it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SecretPro Posted 27 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 27 January 2023 Medical tomorrow is what I've just told myself. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJO-FOX Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 2 minutes ago, manders86 said: Same person that told me the other day talks had broke through has told me we are 95% of the way there... Pretty obvious as Fab has tweeted but still. Issue is so were Everton signing Danjuma! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders86 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 1 minute ago, DJO-FOX said: Issue is so were Everton signing Danjuma! Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 1 minute ago, SecretPro said: Medical tomorrow is what I've just told myself. Do you usually find yourself to be a reliable source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said: Do you usually find yourself to be a reliable source? usually about 50/50 tbf. I'll check with myself and see how certain I am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 4 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Medical tomorrow is what I've just told myself. Do you believe yourself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 until percy tweets something ....... he must have followed up on fab's info at our end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pliskin Posted 27 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 27 January 2023 Brendan to Rudders: “I need a right winger son” Rudders Google’s *which player can I sign that has the most complex deal* 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 24 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Ok - I am stumped on why we can't sign him beyond June, but here is my best guess without seeing the papers. When the war in Ukraine broke out, in order to suspend the contract, Shaktar triggered the Force Majeure clause within the contract. That effectively suspends the contract performance - that means the date on which the contract ends is not what we think it is. The contract is essentially frozen until such time that the FM event subsides or the contract allows for termination of either party. However, the above analogy still causes me with two problems. 1) The FM event, has continued for so long that effectively the contract should've frustrated (ended on the basis that the contract cannot conclude). 2) there is no reason why he cant sign for us beyond June. But otherwise, I can't work it out. If we sign him, we have bought out a suspended contract and therefore he can sign with us (an altogether third party for as long as he wants). Murdyk deal to Chelsea was different because the FM clause to suspend was triggered on Ukrainian players. Scenes when Percy tweets that it's a permanent deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gerard Posted 27 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 27 January 2023 I never post ITK stuff because I'm just not but I've been told this will happen tomorrow despite late interest from Leeds. Comes from a very good source within the club btw. 12 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxUK Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 1 minute ago, Gerard said: I never post ITK stuff because I'm just not but I've been told this will happen tomorrow despite late interest from Leeds. Comes from a very good source within the club btw. Thanks Brendan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 So in the space of an hour it’s gone from advanced final stages, to it being impossible to sign him LCFC transfer business right there. To be fair, Dorset does know **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 14 minutes ago, manders86 said: Same person that told me the other day talks had broke through has told me we are 95% of the way there... Pretty obvious as Fab has tweeted but still. ITK confirmed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 3 minutes ago, Gerard said: I never post ITK stuff because I'm just not but I've been told this will happen tomorrow despite late interest from Leeds. Comes from a very good source within the club btw. There's no late interest from Leeds, because there's no interest from Leeds. It makes no sense for them and never did, and their local reporters are saying it's a complete mixup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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