jayfox26 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, chapero82 said: Am I real? Thanks for clearing that up. You just never know on the Internet these days. Is Jannik Vestergaard real or a really bad nightmare? Just re read and realised you were asking if you're real rather than stating it. I don't know, can you tell me? Edited 27 January 2023 by jayfox26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 5 minutes ago, coalvillefox said: So how does this short term contract thing work then? Presumably it's not a loan in the traditional sense as it's on a special licence. What will that cost us until June? Surely not a huge amount? *If* it's even a thing, then it won't functionally be any different from a normal transfer. Ultimately we'd pay Shakhtar the agreed upon fee and the player would sign a contract with us. There may be a number of contractual work-arounds needed, but the deal will ultimately be the same. Lyon will likely be owed some sort of compensation. Shakhtar will pay this, although that money will likely come from ourselves as part of the agreement. We may pay a loan fee upfront with an obligation to buy built in - so the main transfer may happen in June, but he'd be our player from now. The transfer fee would be fixed today - essentially a 'buy now pay later' to skirt past any weird contract laws in place. Player wages/bonuses etc may be more complicated if its officially a loan, as the player's terms at shakhtar, Lyon and here would potentially be different and may need some adjustment during the 'loan' period to make the contract more like what he would be offered were it a permanent signing (assuming we're paying more). The only thing I'm not sure on is if the player could refuse to sign for us in the summer, which seems unlikely anyway. I'm not sure if individual pre-contracts like that can be legally binding at this stage or if the player still has final say. It may be that FIFA etc need to get involved as its a special case, which could be the reason for any delays. I don't know if any other foreign players from the league have moved in similar circumstances, but it's certainly not a 'normal' transfer, by any means. But once the paperwork is sorted the underlying deal will be nothing out of the ordinary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Fox Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 Can the club hurry this up, there are only so many rep points I can give 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Bert said: Another day drawing closer and we are a now a little bit closer to me being proved wrong 😀 If it happens Berty lad my trust in you will be crushed 😉🤣 Edited 27 January 2023 by Bluetintedspecs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mickyblueeyes Posted 27 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 27 January 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I've tried to find any news articles from when Lyon signed him again last summer, to see if there was anything in there about post June 2023. The Daily Mail were the ones who broke the story that Lyon have a £17.5m option on him come the summer but given he could sign a pre contract for free for the forthcoming December 2023, I'm not sure if this is as clear as we assumed. Whatever is to resolve, even if we can only secure him until June whilst we work out the rest with Shaktar is enough for me to start with. He's essential for us staying up. Right. I’ve looked into From a legal perspective. What Dorset is saying is completely right. Russia attacked the Ukraine - Shaktar triggered the FM clause in the contract effectively suspending the contract from the date of notice. This means the contract is not currently running. The suspension trigger has to have a fixed date. It allows both parties to suspend liability. That includes Shak tar paying Tete his wages. Hence the short term deal (effectively a licence) for Tete to play for Lyon. He can’t be loaned out because the contract is suspended. The option to purchase is included in the agreement between Lyon and Shaktar on the basis that the contract restarts on the intended date (remember Tete’s contract is suspended so no expiry on the previous date - the dates are pushed until restart). The FM date needs a fixed end date or it’s unclear and (I’m applying English law principles here) therefore amounts to an agreement to agree which is void. IF the war doesn’t end on the FM end date, shaktar either extend the FM date (if they can) to an agreed long stop or terminate. Lyon pay the fee. We are effectively doing the same thing. Ofcourse, I havent seen the papers - this is just me giving a birds eye view. Complex deal. Edited 27 January 2023 by Mickyblueeyes 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 19 minutes ago, Noahfence said: is this real?? no, but this is... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post filbertway Posted 27 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 27 January 2023 This deal would be moving significantly quicker if Rudkin wasn't stopping at every insignificant milestone in this deal to ring Top up and let him know how well he's doing. "I've just downloaded something called zoom, apparently you can do video calls" "I just had to install windows updates" "Going to morrisons for a meal deal before the meeting" "Turns out I didn't need zoom, as the meeting was face to face" *2 days later* "Hi all, lost my phone and laptop, this is my new number lol. Jon." 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 1 minute ago, shade said: no, but this is... His arms are of a different ethnicity to his face and neck? Gerrimin.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcol Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 44 minutes ago, Stinky said: Happy with this news, Foxes fans? 😍 Don't worry, he will say, and I quote " I will give my all for the Blue Jersey in the next 18 games"...... then he'll join Spurs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigga Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 Replacement for Maddison ? we have needed a right sided player for ages… BR has a reluctance to play Maddison in the number 10 role.. starting him right and he drifts in.. so who plays where ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 4 Life Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 No way we do this unless we have some kind of purchase option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 Just now, Rigga said: Replacement for Maddison ? we have needed a right sided player for ages… BR has a reluctance to play Maddison in the number 10 role.. starting him right and he drifts in.. so who plays where ? not sure he has a reluctance to play him there we have just played him there and allowed him to drift as we havent had anyone else decent enough to play on the right. for me the midfield now should (could) be Mendy Tielemans Tete Maddison Barnes If Tielemans goes and Maddisons stays then you play KDH in Tielemans position 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardyfox86 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 He's either gonna be a sensation or an absolute disaster. Just feels like there will be no in-between 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verumex Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 5 minutes ago, Rigga said: Replacement for Maddison ? we have needed a right sided player for ages… BR has a reluctance to play Maddison in the number 10 role.. starting him right and he drifts in.. so who plays where ? He doesn't have a reluctance to playing Madders in 10, he has a lack of options on the right wing and a player who wants to demonstrate to Southgate that he can play in more positions that just the 10. If this deal gets done, then he will likely be a replacement for Perez, not Maddison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JimJams Posted 27 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 27 January 2023 Castagne will be buzzing at the prospect of not having to cover the entirety of the right side of the field by himself. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 Has he signed yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verumex Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 Just now, Fazzer 7 said: Has he signed yet ITKs are saying tomorrow, it's that's worth anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksz Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 I don’t see us announcing a signing on the same Saturday as a game, so let’s take it with a pinch of salt and have a nice surprise when it happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfc-1992 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 Just now, Aleksz said: I don’t see us announcing a signing on the same Saturday as a game, so let’s take it with a pinch of salt and have a nice surprise when it happens If we lose then they definitely will announce it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 17 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: His arms are of a different ethnicity to his face and neck? Gerrimin.... Reverse twat tan !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sankey93 Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 If this is a loan with an option to buy, maybe we have some extra funds for others? Doubt it but you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPalace.com Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 The Twitterbators says it’s virtually all done ✅ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenfox Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 This thread is hot, is there any actual news or the usual Foxestalk nonsense/fish puns? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 3 minutes ago, Brenfox said: This thread is hot, is there any actual news or the usual Foxestalk nonsense/fish puns? Signing tomorrow. To be announced in front of the Walsall fans at half time. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 27 January 2023 Share Posted 27 January 2023 12 minutes ago, JimJams said: Castagne will be buzzing at the prospect of not having to cover the entirety of the right side of the field by himself. With Kristiansen, Tete and Ricardo's return, poor Timmy is going to go from being first/best-choice Left back, Right back and de facto right winger, to back-up across the board. He's due a break in all fairness. Although I suppose he got that after Belgium's WC exit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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