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Gary Lineker steps down from MOTD

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2 minutes ago, Daggers said:

A significant portion of Chelsea fans are currently polishing their boots in readiness to follow the call and go goose stepping down King’s Rd.

Ha! I was thinking just that. Remember Combat 18?

 

Terrifying that I am able to recall going to the Bridge and the National Front having a stand outside the ground. Around the same time, a large proportion of their fans used to relish in hurling racist chants at their own player, Paul Canoville when he came out before the game for warm up. 

 

18 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

All together now

 

"Whoaaaa, Gary, Gary,

Gary, Gary Gary, Gary Lineker"

 

 

Repeat until the BBC backs down

Amended for accuracy. 

 

It'd be great if we could resurrect the old 80s chant. - although in terms of complexity, it's probably too much for our modern fan base which is fast approaching Pompey's as the dimmest and most Neanderthal in the entire football league. 

 

Tp their credit, they can just about manage to sing along with this garbage though, given that it isn't heard very often...

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Line-X said:

Ha! I was thinking just that. Remember Combat 18?

 

Terrifying that I am able to recall going to the Bridge and the National Front having a stand outside the ground. Around the same time, a large proportion of their fans used to relish in hurling racist chants at their own player, Paul Canoville when he came out before the game for warm up. 

 

Amended for accuracy. 

 

It'd be great if we could resurrect the old 80s chant. - although in terms of complexity, it's probably too much for our modern fan base which is fast approaching Pompey's as the dimmest and most Neanderthal in the entire football league. 

 

Tp their credit, they can just about manage to sing along with this garbage though, given that it isn't heard very often...

 

 

 

Both were sang but happy to sing both

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17 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

But you don't start that way do you? You don't immediately go from a free and democratic society to one living under an authoritarian, dystopian dictatorship over night. 

 

It happens gradually when it's allowed to. 

 

This government has clamped down on public protest, its clamped down on collective bargaining, its taken over the national broadcaster, its silencing its critics and Othering "outsiders" to erroneously shift blame for its own economic failings. 

 

That's not just a slippery slope it's a fvcking landslide. 

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In 1945 the world was freed from fascism by an unlikely coalition of western democracies and a totalitarian socialist state.

 

In 2023 the most likely candidates to do the same are Germany and the Match of The Day Team, and I'll be honest that's not a situation I was predicting

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I guess and quite ironically perhaps, that an obvious difference between now and 1930’s Nazi Germany is social media.

Propaganda fuelled fascism under the Nazis. The Germans didn’t hear anything other than what the propaganda machine wanted them to hear. The Jews became the ‘enemy from within’ and the Germans were brainwashed completely. This was underpinned by threat and fear of the ruling elite.

Now, the media is still shaped, of course, but it’s so readily available and so broad that alternative views can be written and read. FB and Twitter this morning are full of both sides of the argument. Ie Lineker was right to bring this up, or Lineker is a twat.

In 30’s Germany, the alternate view was not provided or spoken about. And if anything was printed to criticise Hitler and his henchmen, the offending press was just shut down (and the editor shot!).

I guess it’s a double edged sword. The availability of social media, en masse, will provide anybody wanting to promote fascism with the platform to do so. But it’ll also provide the opportunity to give the exact opposite view.

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So over the last few years I've watched a programme on Sky Atlantic called Babylon Berlin. Yes it is a work of fiction, but is based on the atmosphere in early 1930s Berlin. It's great viewing in its own right in my opinion, but for a portrayal of how the atrocities of Nazism emerged, how once unacceptable behaviour becomes acceptable, it is fascinating viewing. 

 

I know many will feel politics should be kept out of sport, and here we are on a sports forum, but some things are more important than football. 

 

As a long time FoxesTalk participant I'd also like to comment that I think this particular thread has been excellent, full of extremely thoughtful contributions, and debated in a civilised manner, which is not always our strong point!

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7 minutes ago, steveherbe said:

I'm just hoping that MOTD is more watchable tonight, more football and no chat from the bix-six biased "experts". Could be a big improvement, I'll be giving it a go for a change - as long as we beat Chelsea of course.

Should get Simon Jordan presenting 

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1 hour ago, StanSP said:

It's just all a bit of a farce, isn't it? Should never have got this far and only the Tories can be blamed. 

 

They don't like it when you speak out against them. So they try and divide those that support that person/group. 

 

The Tories are the reason this country has absolutely gone to shit and this whole Lineker situation is a fantastic reason why. Amongst several others. The people in the party are slimy, smarmy, corrupt, rude, abusive, divisive, immoral. They lack so much humanity. 

 

 

For balance....not a tory voter myself but the late David Amess seemed a good sort. 

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