Ricey Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Smith/Shakespeare until the end of the season or Marsch for 3 years is a no brainer. We can’t afford to get the next long term appointment wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StriderHiryu Posted 9 April 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 9 April 2023 10 minutes ago, westernpark said: Palace sacked their manager at first time of trouble. Great timing with an international break and quick appointment. Our board are so complicit in this season. Parish is ruthless in the best way possible. He also sacked DeBoer early doors a few seasons back too. He’s used to the struggle and knows what needs to be done. We were either arrogant or ignorant. Or both. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Samilktray said: Looks to me like Leeds have fell apart in Jesse Marsch’s absence be careful what you wish for dawg i think it’s more about how ruthless palace have become in 2 games…they could have easily had 6 against us. Roy’s got them going again! they actually have only had 11 shots today compared to the 30 against us 😂 Edited 9 April 2023 by Lambert09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfanlee23 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 2 minutes ago, Mee-9 said: An entertaining afternoon to make you feel better about the result yesterday. Leeds fans with the ultimate plan. They heard LCFC are scanning twitter for reactions, so Leeds fans publicly begging for Marsch back so we take him, get relegated and Leeds survive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mee-9 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Leeds fans in meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooch85 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 29 minutes ago, Gamble92 said: The question is why would Carrick be looking at us? Could be set for another season in the championship on current form, why wouldn’t you be interested? It’s not like we are down already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 26 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: When it was first reported I was dead set gainst Burger-and-Fries Brendan but after yesterdays horror show I can't think it will get any worse. Club is in the mud, man. It will get a lot worse if we appoint the wrong person to undertake the summer rebuild and end up sacking him when we’re in the bottom half of the Championship in October… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalH Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 We haven’t got any more time to waste - I hope we give Marsch a go. We could really do with some of his enthusiasm! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Just now, CalH said: We haven’t got any more time to waste - I hope we give Marsch a go. We could really do with some of his enthusiasm! Leeds fans say he is useless, but today they think he is Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Just now, Ricey said: Smith/Shakespeare until the end of the season or Marsch for 3 years is a no brainer. We can’t afford to get the next long term appointment wrong. I mean, Smith is the more experienced and successful manager in this league. And unlike Marsch he has a promotion under his belt in the league below. He might also bring with him a guy who's pulled off a couple of great escapes as coach and manager, who has pre-established relationships with many players, and who could be part of a longer-term management set-up at the club with or without Smith. If Smith is happy with the interim role but Marsch is holding out for longer, then that's a bit fortunate, because the guy who has the better credentials as a long-termer isn't even demanding those terms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cityfanlee23 Posted 9 April 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 9 April 2023 Just now, foxes_rule1978 said: Leeds fans say he is useless, but today they think he is Jesus Football fans by and large are absolutely clueless. Most think just because it’s a results business that automatically makes everything black and white. And when it suits their own narrative they will agree with any opinion that suits as validation. I mean ffs they let me have an opinion on here…. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooch85 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Kieran mcKenna would be another great shout. One of the best coaches around too apparently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 8 minutes ago, Ricey said: Smith/Shakespeare until the end of the season or Marsch for 3 years is a no brainer. We can’t afford to get the next long term appointment wrong. I would seriously go with smith and Shakespeare, that is a good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentofthegame Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 5 minutes ago, boosmanana said: People don't want Marsch because he didn't do a great job at Leeds, yet want Vieira who didn't do a great job at Palace. We're not going to get a manager that everyone wants because we're not in a position to attract that kind of manager right now. Most recent managerial experience was overseeing a 12 game winless run including 3 games in a row without a shot on target 😂 sounds very Rodgers-esque. Vieira has a better record than Marsch Vieira has had 1.15 ppg compared to Marsch 1.03ppg, scored less at 1.09 per game vs 1.22, but also conceded much less at 1.23 per game vs 1.66, also achieved these over a longer period of time Marsch took over a 17th place Leeds and masterminded them to a....17th place finish, he was then sacked with them sat in 17th place. Vieira in his first season at Palace improved their position (14th to 12th), points (44 to 48), goals scored (41 to 50), goals conceded (66 down to 46) and goal difference (-25 to +4), he also took them to an FA Cup semi final This season wasn't great but they were still in 12th and had played a horrible fun of fixtures, the 11 games without a win in the league were against the teams currently 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 11th. Palace's fixtures left after sacking him were 3 games vs top 10 teams and 7 vs bottom 10, including games vs each of the bottom 4. Marsch took over a good Leipzig side off the back of a 2nd place finish and a solid Champions League showing (finishing above Utd and level on points with PSG in a tough group) and had them sat in 11th after 14 games and out of the champions league already including a loss to Club Brugge. He lost 6 of those first 14 games, Leipzig went on to finish 4th and only lost 4 of the remaining 20 games. I don't see anything worth pursuing in a guy that has failed in both of his 2 most recent jobs and whose only successful seasons where managing a dominant Salzburg team with an abundance of talent playing in a league that they dominate every year regardless of their manager. Rightly or wrongly Vieira also is a much more prominent name in world football and would command considerably more respect due to his standing in the game, there is a much higher chance of him coming in and galvanising the players than there is of Marsch, arguably half of the Leicester squad are bigger names in football than him, Vieira immediately comes in as someone bigger than anybody else in the club. TLDR Vieira has been more successful in the league, was harshly fired by Palace, is more likely to garner respect from the squad and galvanise them and is better at organising a solid team that can defend, something we desperately need 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evostic Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Think Marsch could be good- if we’ve taken time speaking with him and due diligence on his time at Leeds - it’s a league that’s hard to crack first time around 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 4 minutes ago, inckley fox said: I mean, Smith is the more experienced and successful manager in this league. And unlike Marsch he has a promotion under his belt in the league below. He might also bring with him a guy who's pulled off a couple of great escapes as coach and manager, who has pre-established relationships with many players, and who could be part of a longer-term management set-up at the club with or without Smith. If Smith is happy with the interim role but Marsch is holding out for longer, then that's a bit fortunate, because the guy who has the better credentials as a long-termer isn't even demanding those terms. problem is, i’d probably rather have just shakespear. Smith was hated by norwich fans. In fairness perhaps he lost the players because they lost so much in the prem and it was hard to pick them back up when they went down but it’s still worrying that we have dropped to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Just now, studentofthegame said: Vieira has a better record than Marsch Vieira has had 1.15 ppg compared to Marsch 1.03ppg, scored less at 1.09 per game vs 1.22, but also conceded much less at 1.23 per game vs 1.66, also achieved these over a longer period of time Marsch took over a 17th place Leeds and masterminded them to a....17th place finish, he was then sacked with them sat in 17th place. Vieira in his first season at Palace improved their position (14th to 12th), points (44 to 48), goals scored (41 to 50), goals conceded (66 down to 46) and goal difference (-25 to +4), he also took them to an FA Cup semi final This season wasn't great but they were still in 12th and had played a horrible fun of fixtures, the 11 games without a win in the league were against the teams currently 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 11th. Palace's fixtures left after sacking him were 3 games vs top 10 teams and 7 vs bottom 10, including games vs each of the bottom 4. Marsch took over a good Leipzig side off the back of a 2nd place finish and a solid Champions League showing (finishing above Utd and level on points with PSG in a tough group) and had them sat in 11th after 14 games and out of the champions league already including a loss to Club Brugge. He lost 6 of those first 14 games, Leipzig went on to finish 4th and only lost 4 of the remaining 20 games. I don't see anything worth pursuing in a guy that has failed in both of his 2 most recent jobs and whose only successful seasons where managing a dominant Salzburg team with an abundance of talent playing in a league that they dominate every year regardless of their manager. Rightly or wrongly Vieira also is a much more prominent name in world football and would command considerably more respect due to his standing in the game, there is a much higher chance of him coming in and galvanising the players than there is of Marsch, arguably half of the Leicester squad are bigger names in football than him, Vieira immediately comes in as someone bigger than anybody else in the club. TLDR Vieira has been more successful in the league, was harshly fired by Palace, is more likely to garner respect from the squad and galvanise them and is better at organising a solid team that can defend, something we desperately need So Marsch loves 17th place, we could do with that finish right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_no7 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Betting suspended on Marsch. FIGHTTTT ANDDD WIIIIIIIIN. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudger63 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 6 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: I would seriously go with smith and Shakespeare, that is a good call Wow, did you not see Norwich play under Smith/Shakespeare? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 3 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Betting suspended on Marsch. FIGHTTTT ANDDD WIIIIIIIIN. Yes been told all done now, best of luck to him. Let's back him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 4 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: problem is, i’d probably rather have just shakespear. Smith was hated by norwich fans. In fairness perhaps he lost the players because they lost so much in the prem and it was hard to pick them back up when they went down but it’s still worrying that we have dropped to that. Well, there's a fair argument for Just Shakespeare. Better knowledge of / relationships with players. Has pulled off escapes, including as manager. Very useful long-term. Unlikely to demand a long-term managerial role. Cheap. Available. Able to hit the ground running and bring in fresh ideas. It's not a terrible call, especially of SaS remain a serious possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpylcfc Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 3 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Betting suspended on Marsch. FIGHTTTT ANDDD WIIIIIIIIN. Has been since yesterday hasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalH Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Just now, Vindaloo FOX said: Yes been told all done now, best of luck to him. Let's back him. Really hope this is true. Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishades Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 14 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Leeds fans say he is useless, but today they think he is Jesus At least he will have good ideas about crosses in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 9 April 2023 Share Posted 9 April 2023 Just now, Vindaloo FOX said: Yes been told all done now, best of luck to him. Let's back him. Despite not being someone I would have wanted he will get my full backing. I’m not expecting us to survive anyway and should be given the time even with relegation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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