S1ddo71 Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 1 hour ago, WoodyFox said: Done then Like a kipper, we're smoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVIE B Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 2 hours ago, Fox92 said: In the game he was a great defender and a winner. Helped make Villa's defence better too. We need this right now. His personal life not great but there's a few players like that. The club literally fined Vardy, and sent him on a course for something he did off the pitch. Spot on. We also had club legend Walshy, he was not squeaky clean off the pitch. People will see what they want to comply with the narrative they want. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishades Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 16 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said: If Smith can keep us up I'd be willing to take one for the team with Nora Batty. Although she did pass away nearly 15 years ago! That just adds to the attraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stourbridgefox Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 46 minutes ago, S1ddo71 said: Like a kipper, we're smoked. Rob Dorsett confidently revealed the American bloke a few days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winteriscoming Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 The most uninspiring appointment ever. You make this appointment if you’re trying to stay up in the championship or making a push for the play offs. However by the sound of it nobody wanted it so the best of luck to them they’ll need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1ddo71 Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 14 minutes ago, stourbridgefox said: Rob Dorsett confidently revealed the American bloke a few days ago. Can only hope that it doesn't happen then. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mee-9 Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 I can guarantee one thing. I bet the team news leaks will come to an end. Wouldn't want to be on the end of a Dean Smith headbutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 1 minute ago, Mee-9 said: I can guarantee one thing. I bet the team news leaks will come to an end. Wouldn't want to be on the end of a Dean Smith headbutt. As it should do. The leak for the Bournemouth game highlighted a problem somewhere coming out so early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mee-9 Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 Just now, Chelmofox said: As it should do. The leak for the Bournemouth game highlighted a problem somewhere coming out so early. Definitely agree - It was a joke. The fact we all knew the team news was a disaster was shocking. I'd love to know who these people are who leak the news, and specifically which players/coaches are doing it. They obviously have the mindset of sabotaging the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 Thought it was widely known that Harvey Barnes was the leaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 6 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Thought it was widely known that Harvey Barnes was the leaker? Harvey Barnes and Dean Smith have the exact same hair style. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 Honestly, I'd prefer this to Marsh, At least Shaky will know a lot of the players which has to be a plus. Terry will command the respect of new recruits like Faes , Souttar etc, given his record in the game. If they pull off another great escape then look at the situation again in the Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridFox Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 15 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Harvey Barnes and Dean Smith have the exact same hair style. Oooooh it's an equaliser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Harvey Barnes and Dean Smith have the exact same hair style. Is Dean Smiths misses in the same class as Harveys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ric Flair said: I just think this stands half a chance of working, the only dilemma is the 4 wins we need, if he gets them means he'd get a longer term deal and if he didn't it would seem harsh. ...your asking for professionalism from the club and you are bringing in sentiment regarding business decisions!!! You can understand what Top goes through faced with being loyal to people he employs. You have to be ruthless and make that decision and move on. I would be sure that we have made it quite clear that it is an interim situation. If he keeps us up we look for a manager from overseas or we go back for Potter. There will not be a situation where we are looking to keep Smith on due to what he has achieved at the end of this season. Edited 10 April 2023 by sacreblueits442 Spelling error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVIE B Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 53 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Thought it was widely known that Harvey Barnes was the leaker? I doubt it. He’d out of the door if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 10 April 2023 Share Posted 10 April 2023 1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...your asking for professionalism from the club and you are bringing in sentiment regarding business decisions!!! You can understand what Top goes through faced with being loyal to people he employs. You have to be ruthless and make that decision and move on. I would be sure that we have made it quite clear that it is an interim situation. If he keeps us up we look for a manager from overseas or we go back for Potter. There will not a situation where we are looking to keep Smith on due to what he has achieved at the end of this season. I guarantee that if he wins 7 out of 8 then he gets the gig ! so he won’t get it 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlee Posted 17 April 2023 Share Posted 17 April 2023 WE are going down. The m0ment we sacked Renie after 20 yrs of dedication - we reaped Karma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 22 April 2023 Share Posted 22 April 2023 As O’Neil thread shut I’ll post this here CHRIS SUTTON: Martin O'Neill reveals he would have been 'delighted' to have taken the Leicester job O'NEILL: I would have been delighted to have gone back, even for a short period. I wouldn't have been looking for anything. If they're in dire trouble, absolutely, I'd go back. But I don't put myself out there. SUTTON: You don't have an agent throwing your name into the mix, much like Roy Hodgson. Leicester ended up going with Smith, and John Terry and Craig Shakespeare as assistants. I sat down with Martin O'Neill (L) to talk all things football - both past and present The Northern Irishman discussed the topic of returning to Leicester, where he spent five years O'NEILL: I thought it was a no-brainer for Roy to go back to Crystal Palace. He knows the club but, more importantly, he knows the players. It's not as if he's saying, 'Jesus, what team shall I pick?' Maybe that's why Leicester went with (their choice) because Craig Shakespeare had been there before. SUTTON: Did you enter into talks with Leicester? O'NEILL: No. They never spoke to me. I thought they might have called and it didn't materialise. But good luck! I genuinely like Leicester. It would be incredibly sad to see them go down. SUTTON: Do you think with Hodgson going to Palace, and Warnock to Huddersfield, the perception towards older managers is changing? O'NEILL: That's helped! I had this feeling that ageism plays a part. Experience does not necessarily guarantee success. But you think your record in the game might suggest somebody might (want to hire you). Would I have the enthusiasm to do the job? Absolutely. SUTTON: What about Forest? O'NEILL: I worked at Forest. I worked with the owner. I had 19 games there, the last three of which we won, believe it or not. SUTTON: You once told me, 'I've spent longer on a sponsored walk from Land's End to John O'Groats than I did as manager of that club.' But they've backed Cooper by making 30 signings this season. O'NEILL: Deep down, I wouldn't have minded having 19 players brought into the football club at the time! O'Neill says he was open to a return to Leicester but they appointed Dean Smith instead I spent five trophy-laden years with O’Neill in Scotland during our respective time at Celtic SUTTON: Cooper got the old 'vote of confidence' from Marinakis. It was, 'We back you, we back you, we back you... but we need immediate results.' O'NEILL: A caveat! I've always been sceptical about 'votes of confidence'. In truth, they don't exist. My daughter, Aisling, told me that at Wycombe — not because she knew whether I was going to lose my job, but she knew on a Saturday night we could go to a Chinese restaurant in High Wycombe if her dad could beat Bromsgrove Rovers. Her words to me, leaving the house every weekend, were: 'Dad, just win.' If an 11-year-old can tell you to 'just win', that's what it meant. Did she know whether we were playing a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2? Not at all. Just win. SUTTON: If you were still at Forest and that statement suddenly appeared, would you tell Marinakis where to go? O'NEILL: I would say to the owner: 'Do not be releasing statements on my behalf. Honestly, I don't need it.' The interview takes place in Signor Sassi, one of London's finest Italian restaurants, and Sutton is hanging on every word as O'Neill holds court. Fitting, because in another life he might have finished his law degree at Queen's University in Belfast to become a barrister. Becoming one of the Britain's greatest footballing figures was hardly a bad fallback option, though O'Neill never lost his fascination with the law. Evangelos Marinakis has made headlines recently for his vote of confidence in Steve Cooper In 1981, he watched the trial of 'Yorkshire Ripper' Peter Sutcliffe from the Old Bailey public gallery; in 1976, he watched Donald Neilson, the 'Black Panther' murderer, at Oxford Crown Court; and he once took a trip to Dallas to visit the book depository from where Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated John F Kennedy. O'Neill is still captivated by the law today and jokes that he saved Sutton from imprisonment at Chelsea by signing him for Celtic in 2000. SUTTON: I heard when you suggested Celtic sign me, the board asked if you'd seen me play. You said, 'Yes, for Chelsea's Under 11s. He was head and shoulders above the rest.' The rest was history, wasn't it? O'NEILL: You'd proved yourself! You won the league with Blackburn! I went to Manchester City. Did I think the midfielders were better than me at City? Absolutely not. I'd won the league at Forest. I'd done well at Norwich. But I couldn't settle at City. When I thought about you, I thought about myself. SUTTON: We won't bore the readers with talk of which crime documentaries we're watching on Netflix, but safe to say you're still interested in that topic? I could have seen you as Rumpole! O'NEILL: Rumpole of the Bailey! Do I still think about these murder cases from the past? Yeah. But I would've been a pretty poor barrister. You need speed of thought. That's why some of these barristers are so brilliant because they need to be thinking miles ahead. SUTTON: Clough might've been a good barrister in that case. Naturally, Clough features heavily in your autobiography On Days Like These, although my section seems to be missing? The Northern Irishman had plenty of success with Celtic during his stint there from 1995-2000 O'NEILL: Sorry, Chris! I wrote it myself. That's why there aren't many words with more than two syllables. Clough didn't spend a Tuesday afternoon coaching the team. He coached you during the games. Let me tell you. Half-time, Liam O'Kane had become fearful of Millwall's Gordon Hill. Clough said, 'If you back off any further, you'll be in the River Trent'. But then he explained what to do. 'Get out, engage him from a yard-and-a-half, stop, direct him wide so we can get our centre halves back into position. Then do your utmost to stop the ball from coming in.' SUTTON: So after the initial Cloughism, he backed it up with tactical instructions. You get managers like Guardiola and Klopp being hailed as tactical geniuses today for sending a full back into midfield or telling players to press high. How would Clough have fared today? O'NEILL: Everybody thinks the game has changed enormously. It hasn't. The game is still essentially simple. Before the 1980 European Cup final, we lost Trevor Francis. How did he compensate that? He played Garry Birtles up on his own to cover the ground and we put an extra man in midfield to combat Hamburg. It was called 'flooding the midfield'. Nowadays there's different terminology, but it's essentially the same! This 'high press', it's as if it was invented last week, but that's exactly what Brian Clough taught us! The year that we won the championship, we've come up and nobody is expecting us to do anything, but we closed the opposition down as quickly as we could. (Clough's assistant) Peter Taylor's idea was, 'Get really good players and get them hustling.' SUTTON: 'Hustling' as in win the ball back as soon as possible so the talented boys can do something with it? O'Neill revealed how his former coach Brian Clough (R) taught him about the 'high press' O'NEILL: Guardiola told Barcelona's players to get the ball back. You know if you've got Lionel Messi and Andres Iniesta and Xavi, there's a decent chance you're going to create something. So the quicker you get the ball back, the better. It's so logical it's untrue. Taylor told us that in 1976. Clough got the very best out of us. Whether it was telling John Robertson how brilliant he was or rollicking me, he got the best out of you. Fast forward another 60 years when whatever changes have taken place in the game, someone will ask, 'I wonder how Guardiola would have dealt with this?' It's like asking if George Best could play in today's game? He'd score another 300 goals! You only have to look at Ron Harris's challenge on him. That was an everyday occurrence on Best. The pitches are better, the game is less brutal and there are much fewer 'hard men' — there's not a 'hard man' in the game. The walls of Signor Sassi are smothered with pictures of celebrities, including Roman Abramovich. The talk turns to Chelsea's new owner, Todd Boehly, and how he invaded the changing room to tell the squad their season has been 'embarrassing'. O'NEILL: I have no problem with owners coming in afterwards, but it has to be positive. I wouldn't want an owner saying something derogatory. SUTTON: Jack Walker would come in before games at Blackburn to wish everybody well. O'NEILL: That's encouragement and different to somebody remonstrating at the end of a game. Before I got at Forest, they had the chief executive (Ioannis Vrentzos) and apparently he held a team talk after a game. They won the next game so he's taking credit! If an owner comes in to remonstrate with the players, it's going to undermine you. You are employed as the manager. That's your job. SUTTON: I could imagine you hitting the roof if Boehly did what he did on your watch. O'NEILL: You can't do that. That was my fallout at Wycombe with the chairman, Ivor Beeks. We drew at York, a poor 0-0, and I'd gone for a shower after speaking to the players. One came in to say, 'Boss, Ivor's been in, he's really unhappy with the performance'. I've gone ballistic. I charged up to the boardroom. 'Don't you ever do that again.' I don't regret saying that. I do regret falling out with him. We've been good friends since. But no, that's my job. Todd Boehly has made headlines in recent weeks for his post-match actions at Chelsea SUTTON: You became a great manager, but you were sparing in your praise of us Celtic players. We feared you. Did you ever doubt yourself? O'NEILL: There's not a man on this Earth who hasn't at some stage doubted his ability. Did I doubt my ability as a player? Absolutely. There was the day I fell over about four times at Derby and we got murdered 4-0 in 1972. I turned and some Derby player robbed me of the ball and said, 'Don't worry about it, son.' I'm telling you, that's the moment I thought, 'This game is beyond me'. So I could feel how most footballers felt. Robbie Savage tells me I once said to him, 'You only lack one thing and that's ability'. Which I may well have done. But it was meant in a comical sense! The players know when they've done well. SUTTON: And when they haven't, so they don't need an owner telling them that. Before we go, do you see any of Clough in you as a manager? O'NEILL: It was difficult not to have been influenced by someone as successful as him. Almost subconsciously at Wycombe, I was wearing a green shirt and my wife said to me, 'Take that bloody thing off and be yourself.' That was the best advice. Did I learn from Brian? Absolutely. But you have to be you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ric Flair Posted 7 May 2023 Share Posted 7 May 2023 1 hour ago, Matt said: We could do a lot lot worse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sankey93 Posted 7 May 2023 Share Posted 7 May 2023 If we stay up I’d like Hutter! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 7 May 2023 Share Posted 7 May 2023 (edited) I said earlier on the Deano thread.....he was at the Leeds v Leicester game awell Edited 7 May 2023 by CrispinLA in Texas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACF Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Who’s the Scunthorpe that told me I was biased and Ange is no good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 8 May 2023 Share Posted 8 May 2023 Whether he’s any good or not (I think the jury is still out) Ange is going to be in the PL next season. He’s ridden the SPL horse as far as he can and he’s got enough of a reputation that some EPL club will give him his shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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