Is Jesse Marsch better than Rodgers ?

[bart]

3 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

Erm, Newcastle ring any bells? 

 

Why do we have to appoint a Manager to stick with us if we go down? 

 

I would much prefer we have an interim Manager for 8 games, and then we look at our options in the summer, once we know what league we are in and who is available. 

Trouble is not many decent managers will come for such a short deal and possible relegation on their CV without a longer contract. Either a stay up to stay deal or a big payday. Probably looking at a Big Sam/MON type appointment, not sure that would work.

[Guy]

10 minutes ago, Twitcher said:

I think it's a challenge for the board to try to appoint a manager who will stick if we go down and be part of the rebuilding job.

There's no point hiring a bigger name like Benitez, who wouldn't be seen dead in the Championship.

If the bloke's in it for the long haul, then at least that's something. I think he may instill some passion, which is sadly missing at the moment. Despite what looks on paper as a poor record, I thought he was a bit unlucky to be sacked at Leeds.

I'm puzzled as to which big name the fan base think will come in for a side that's clearly going down.

Benitez was in the Championship with Newcastle for a season (2016-17) though wasn't he? That said, I'm not sure he would be happy to be there next season with us had he been appointed ahead of what looks to be Jesse Marsch now and taken us down! 

[dooflip]

As stated in my previous post on this thread, I’m less than happy about the appointment and do see it as completely wrong for us right now, I feel we needed a different type of manager on a temporary basis.

 

But…

 

I think when looking at managers for a championship rebuild (potentially a new first 11), we could do worse than Marsch.

 

He plays a specific style of football which requires a certain type of player. Unfortunately we don’t have a squad capable of that currently.

 

But if we were to build a squad specifically for the intended purpose then it might actually be ok.

 

We are about due some luck with recruitment, so hopefully the “recruitment team” can do a proper job, sort the daft yank out and get us out of the championship at the first time of asking.

[iancognito]

No.

 

And this is why we should have sacked Rodgers in November. We've let the likes of Emry, Dyche and others go to other clubs and get them out of trouble whilst we slip further towards the trap door and end up with the dregs.

 

Marsch will be the board's final disaster call of the season, though I doubt our displays can get worse than today.

[Twitcher]

9 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Why does it have to be a big name.

Go for one of the next group of up and coming Managers who are building a reputation at the moment.

Most would definitely jump at the chance.

Trust me. Any Manager good enough will back himself to succeed, even if it's in the Championship for a season.

Who?

[blueharmie]

I wish that I had Jessie's girl

[Twitcher]

8 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

Erm, Newcastle ring any bells? 

 

Why do we have to appoint a Manager to stick with us if we go down? 

 

I would much prefer we have an interim Manager for 8 games, and then we look at our options in the summer, once we know what league we are in and who is available. 

Who's going to want that gig? It's obvious there's no way to get a tune out of this lot. It just adds a relegation to your cv.

[Clever Fox]

1 minute ago, Twitcher said:

Who?

Honestly, I don't have a name but I know he's out there. It's up to Rudkinand his contacts to get out there and find him.

I've no doubt he'll jump at the opportunity.

[Clever Fox]

3 minutes ago, Twitcher said:

Who's going to want that gig? It's obvious there's no way to get a tune out of this lot. It just adds a relegation to your cv.

Managers know well that to get a better job it's usually with a club that's struggling or been relegated. 

That's just the nature of the job.

[volpeazzurro]

6 minutes ago, bart said:

Trouble is not many decent managers will come for such a short deal and possible relegation on their CV without a longer contract. Either a stay up to stay deal or a big payday. Probably looking at a Big Sam/MON type appointment, not sure that would work.

IF Jesse is the man a stay up to stay is a no brained surely? If they stay up Top is 100m + quids in compared to relegation. If he is crap by next Christmas he could still sack him, pay him off and still be quids in. It's a mess of Top and his boards own making for dithering in the first place. Vichai's football dream is going down the pan pretty quickly, makes you wonder how the business empire is doing also without Vichai?

[dooflip]

4 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Honestly, I don't have a name but I know he's out there. It's up to Rudkinand his contacts to get out there and find him.

I've no doubt he'll jump at the opportunity.

Does he have a working fax machine?

[Vindaloo FOX]

No Jesse is not as good as BR.

 

BR is a good manager but his time with us was up, it happens to every manager at some point.

 

Now we need to support Jesse and hopefully his positive attitude might be just what theses players need after being relegated.

[STUHILL]

1 minute ago, Twitcher said:

Who's going to want that gig? It's obvious there's no way to get a tune out of this lot. It just adds a relegation to your cv.

Personally, I would have pushed for Benitez. Apparently, he was in the frame. He took over Everton in ridiculous circumstances and also Managed under Mike Ashley and in the Championship for a season. So, he is hardly picky! If it's a matter of pay, then get the money together and get him in. Would much prefer to sell a player and have a decent Manager for 3.5 years, rather than one on a budget. He proved he could come straight back from the Championship on a Mike Ashley budget, and also Newcastle fans quite liked him in the Premier League too. 

 

If not him, then you can't tell me Big Sam wouldn't do an 8 game stint. That is all he ever does now. At least with these two options, we either get a decent, experienced Manager who brought Newcastle straight back up OR we get Big Sam, once a survival specialist before WBA, but can bin him off in the summer either way. 

 

Both are much better options than Marsch IMO. Even Hasselhunttl would seem a better option IMO.

[Clever Fox]

5 minutes ago, dooflip said:

Does he have a working fax machine?

Who Rudkin, Apparently not after the Silva fiasco.

[Clarkey123]

3 hours ago, Buzzell said:

Who cares? Just back him and give him a chance.

Erm just about everyone in this forum after watching how s*it we’ve been for the whole season?

[Jon the Hat]

He has a decent CV, got Daka scoring a shed load of goals, might just rebuild us to be a modern pressing team.  If he keeps us up he’ll be a hero, if not he can build a team in his own image in the championship. 

[cheadle white]

1 hour ago, blueharmie said:

Rodgers has destroyed our club to be fair, literally from Top to bottom.

That may be so but to think a manager like Marsch who was without doubt taking Leeds down is the answer is insanity 

[Metal Lover]

We should just settle down and enjoy the Championship.  It's okay, We live here and there.  

 

Never going to be best team in England, we had a really sweet run.

 

Fookt it 

[Gamble92]

I believe in the Marschmeister

 

 

[Clever Fox]

1 minute ago, Gamble92 said:

I believe in the Marschmeister

 

 

Why, They didn't even play Soccer 25 years ago in America.

Why does anyone think he has the knowledge, never mind the experience to run a big Club like us. And we are a big Club outside of the top 6.

[Gamble92]

4 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Why, They didn't even play Soccer 25 years ago in America.

Why does anyone think he has the knowledge, never mind the experience to run a big Club like us. And we are a big Club outside of the top 6.

I'm pretty sure they did play Soccer in USA in 1998 

[Craig]

4 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

I'm pretty sure they did play Soccer in USA in 1998 

He was playing hundreds of games of soccer for Chicago Fire whilst Rodgers was playing for Newbury reserves, but at least Newbury is in England and he was gaining real knowledge there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Clever Fox]

1 minute ago, Gamble92 said:

I'm pretty sure they did play Soccer in USA in 1998 

That's around when they started at college level, which is a bit like our Development level.

It was only after they decided to bring over the retiring pros to boost the game and try and get it established. In time they will be a big force, but that's a way off.

I don't believe Marsh has the knowledge or experience to handle the players at this level.

[Gamble92]

When Marsch meets Rudkin

[smudger63]

53 minutes ago, dooflip said:

As stated in my previous post on this thread, I’m less than happy about the appointment and do see it as completely wrong for us right now, I feel we needed a different type of manager on a temporary basis.

 

But…

 

I think when looking at managers for a championship rebuild (potentially a new first 11), we could do worse than Marsch.

 

He plays a specific style of football which requires a certain type of player. Unfortunately we don’t have a squad capable of that currently.

 

But if we were to build a squad specifically for the intended purpose then it might actually be ok.

 

We are about due some luck with recruitment, so hopefully the “recruitment team” can do a proper job, sort the daft yank out and get us out of the championship at the first time of asking.

There may well have to be a very swift change in direction in terms of recruitment too.  Not just to suit the type of player that will suit the Marsch masterplan, but also in terms of quality that we have been looking at, because given the shitshow way the club has recently been run, its unlikely they will have been planning for the Championship in any way or form!