Number 6 Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 Sure early bookie lists for our managerial appointments have often been way off and then a curveball candidate appears and it's wrapped up quickly. I'd be a little wary of someone with as little experience as Hoefkens getting the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 1 hour ago, LVFox said: Hoefkens has gone straight to 2/1 with Bet Victor. At that price I imagine more from the twitter link than any serious info or movement. Always worth following the money but I don't think the bookies have a clue on us yet. What a depressing screenshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 1 hour ago, Foxin_Mad said: The problem was he was attempting massive change in direction of football style from quite direct, to total football. He/we simply didn't have the players. It was basically an evolution in football, it seems the owners always had a vision of 'total' football. Didn't he have players doing ball work on the first day back rather than fitness and a few came out and said they were knackered when they started playing games because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 1 hour ago, LVFox said: Hoefkens has gone straight to 2/1 with Bet Victor. At that price I imagine more from the twitter link than any serious info or movement. Always worth following the money but I don't think the bookies have a clue on us yet. Would personally take any of; Hoefkens, McKenna, JDT, Rafa or Farke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannythefox Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 49 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Yep. Taking another week or so to recruit the right candidate, who would still be in place well before the players returned for pre-season, is EXACTLY the same as recruiting on the first day of the season. They’ve had since Rodger’s left to get this sorted. Is that 3 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvisfmcfly Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 1 hour ago, LVFox said: Hoefkens has gone straight to 2/1 with Bet Victor. At that price I imagine more from the twitter link than any serious info or movement. Always worth following the money but I don't think the bookies have a clue on us yet. 😂 Steve Cotterill,how’s he even on the list? Go on Rudkin you clown get Cotterill in, we aren’t enough of a laughing stock yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 Just now, dannythefox said: They’ve had since Rodger’s left to get this sorted. Is that 3 months? They couldn’t be going full throttle on a new coach whilst smith was trying to save our PL status how would it look to him (and the rest of the football world) if stories were coming out that we’d approached this coach or that coach whilst he was managing the team. We didn’t know where we would be playing next season until the final day either. they will have been sounding out a few agents re availability and packages of their clients but not a lot more. they would certainly have been identifying options. it’s just two weeks since we dropped - many of you need a little patience. Some of the options we have will have been on holiday for the past week anyway and the player recruitment is going on under glover , the team below him and rudkin. the coach will be in place before pre season begins - I would expect max 10 days from now. That means a few if you could struggle to cope in the meantime! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickaj Posted 12 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 12 June 2023 I've never previously heard of Hoefkens but that doesn't matter, an appointment like this would be way more exciting than for us to simply recycle one of the usual candidates from the standard managerial merry-go-round 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 Id take Martin Oneil anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 1 minute ago, Simoken said: Id take Martin Oneil anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His appointment would bring positivity back to the club, a much needed feel good factor but sadly it would only be a short term fix. MON's tactics and methods i believe are dated in the modern game. His last decent job was managing the Villa, after that his career went downwards. He may have been good in coming those lost 7 games to keep us in the premier league for a short time, purely for impact purposes for the idea of him coming back for a long term and guiding us back to the premier league, I just don't see working. Director Of Football replacing Rudkin... hell yeah why not huge improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: Didn't he have players doing ball work on the first day back rather than fitness and a few came out and said they were knackered when they started playing games because of it. Yeah. He even banned players from gym work iirc, though some still did it in their spare time. Bruno Berner later came out with a scathing interview saying that Sousa basically ended his career, as his fitness levels were never the same. Swansea players also said the same in interviews before we hired him, they started the previous season well but dropped out of the playoffs because of their lack of fitness. Especially coming back off a really fit and energetic side under Pearson, Sousa was a disaster, don’t get people defending him. It was nothing to do with him being ahead of his time and not having the players in his transition to “total football”, that still requires a high pressing game, high energy levels and fitness which is what Sousa drained from the squad. He might be suited to other leagues but he just didn’t understand that strength and fitness were such a big part of Championship football at the time Edited 12 June 2023 by Sampson 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 Interesting that Steve Cotterill has made that bookies list, presumably because he was a coach here nearly 20 years ago (?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 28 minutes ago, dannythefox said: They’ve had since Rodger’s left to get this sorted. Is that 3 months? 22 minutes ago, st albans fox said: They couldn’t be going full throttle on a new coach whilst smith was trying to save our PL status how would it look to him (and the rest of the football world) if stories were coming out that we’d approached this coach or that coach whilst he was managing the team. We didn’t know where we would be playing next season until the final day either. they will have been sounding out a few agents re availability and packages of their clients but not a lot more. they would certainly have been identifying options. it’s just two weeks since we dropped - many of you need a little patience. Some of the options we have will have been on holiday for the past week anyway and the player recruitment is going on under glover , the team below him and rudkin. the coach will be in place before pre season begins - I would expect max 10 days from now. That means a few if you could struggle to cope in the meantime! I was going to respond by making the points st albans fox makes above, but he got there before me. I’m not concerned that we haven’t recruited a manager yet. If we genuinely wanted any of the low-hanging fruit (Smith, Parker, Gerrard, Lampard), it would have been sorted already. I’m glad we’re taking our time to cast the net wider and hopefully get somebody in who’s half-decent. If this means some of our fans remain in a panic-induced rage for a little longer, then so be it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 1 minute ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: Interesting that Steve Cotterill has made that bookies list, presumably because he was a coach here nearly 20 years ago (?). ‘Interesting’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 3 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: Interesting that Steve Cotterill has made that bookies list, presumably because he was a coach here nearly 20 years ago (?). Nice guy but Forest reject, failed there so no not good enough at championship level plus failed at the blue noses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 7 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: ‘Interesting’ Beyond fascinating I’d say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 13 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: I was going to respond by making the points st albans fox makes above, but he got there before me. I’m not concerned that we haven’t recruited a manager yet. If we genuinely wanted any of the low-hanging fruit (Smith, Parker, Gerrard, Lampard), it would have been sorted already. I’m glad we’re taking our time to cast the net wider and hopefully get somebody in who’s half-decent. If this means some of our fans remain in a panic-induced rage for a little longer, then so be it. I don't think anyone would have an issue with taking time to get the right person in. I just don't think that anyone is convinced that we won't spend a month and end up with Smith anyway... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 3 minutes ago, Scotch said: I don't think anyone would have an issue with taking time to get the right person in. I just don't think that anyone is convinced that we won't spend a month and end up with Smith anyway... Yes that could still happen. But I'd rather they at least try to get somebody decent than not even bother trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will1981 Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 Been reading about Carl Hoefkens on wikipedia: Coaching and later career[edit] At the end of January 2018, Hoefkens was hired as a scout for Knokke.[12] On 28 May 2018, it was confirmed, that Hoefkens would return to Club Brugge from the upcoming season as a beloftencoach/talentcoach, where he would function as assistant coach and talent coach for the U21 and U18 teams.[13] In June 2019, Hoefkens was placed in a new role as a part of the first team staff, where he would have the specific task of guiding young talents and provide the link between the academy and the first team.[14][15] In May 2022, Hoefkens took over as head coach of Club Brugge, signing a contract with indefinite duration.[16] In the 2022–23 UEFA Champions League, he led Club Brugge to the knockout phase for the first time in the Champions League era.[17] On 28 December 2022, Club Brugge announced the termination of his contract.[ We have been crying out for this for years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomek Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 (edited) At this point I’ll take anyone other than Smith! If he gets the job, the season is a complete right off. I’d honestly take Gary Megson back before giving Smith the job. Edited 12 June 2023 by Tomek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 Just now, Tomek said: At this point I’ll take anyone other than Smith! If he gets the the, the season is a complete right off. I’d honestly take Gary Megson back before giving Smith the job. .....The. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomek Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 2 minutes ago, Scotch said: .....The. The thought of Smith getting the job has clearly caused me to have a stroke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will1981 Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 3 minutes ago, Tomek said: At this point I’ll take anyone other than Smith! If he gets the the, the season is a complete right off. I’d honestly take Gary Megson back before giving Smith the job. I would take Smith over 50% of the dossers we have been linked with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tomek said: At this point I’ll take anyone other than Smith! If he gets the the, the season is a complete right off. I’d honestly take Gary Megson back before giving Smith the job. I don't want Smith either, but this is a strange take. In the eight games before he arrived, we got one point; in the eight games he was in charge, we got nine. That's a significant improvement - and he did it with an unfit, demoralised, tactically-confused squad he inherited from somebody else. He's also won promotion in the recent past from the Championship. I agree there are probably better candidates out there, but some of the Smith hate is a little unhinged. Edited 12 June 2023 by ClaphamFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvisfmcfly Posted 12 June 2023 Share Posted 12 June 2023 30 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: Nice guy but Forest reject, failed there so no not good enough at championship level plus failed at the blue noses. We shouldn’t even be ****ing discussing the Cnut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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