fairbanksh Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 Some years back I was told by a Spurs used agent the general consensus was that negotiating with LCFC aka Rudkin was a nightmare. Do we really trust this man who has directly caused a massive income loss through inept contracts and no planning, with taking the ub forward? You must be joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 1 minute ago, boosmanana said: As much as I despise Brendan Rodgers, he's far superior to Scott Parker. If Parker is appointed, we'll end up looking back on the Rodgers era with teary-eyed nostalgia while playing 'Those were the days' by Mary Hopkin on repeat. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 1 minute ago, Koke said: We're a big club at this level. Players will sign for us because of our name and our wages. Do you think people won't sign for Chelsea or Man Utd if they were manageress. The problem is players sign for us who the manager doesn’t want. So many stories you here from players and former players who sign for a club, a new manager comes in and doesn’t fancy them - they never play and we’re stuck paying their wages. A manager needs to decide how he wants to play and what sort of players he needs - does he need more leaders, more aggressive players, players who can play out from the back, quick players, a target man etc. The new manager, should be deciding what he wants, then the recruitment team finds those players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 Just now, Chelmofox said: How do they know that said manager won't be sacked after 6 games? What player signs a 4 year deal expecting to play for the same manager throughout that deal? Look at the sackings in the PL last season. Do you think Fofana, Sterling etc signed for Chelsea because Tuchel was in charge? No we change how we run as a football club everytime we appoint a new manager, because that seems sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 9 minutes ago, Roosters boots said: Well, it did go downhill once he left Defence went downhill whilst he was here !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 Just now, Aus Fox said: The problem is players sign for us who the manager doesn’t want. So many stories you here from players and former players who sign for a club, a new manager comes in and doesn’t fancy them - they never play and we’re stuck paying their wages. A manager needs to decide how he wants to play and what sort of players he needs - does he need more leaders, more aggressive players, players who can play out from the back, quick players, a target man etc. The new manager, should be deciding what he wants, then the recruitment team finds those players. Ironically two of the players Rodgers wanted didn't end up playing and we were paying their wages for them to do nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 1 minute ago, fairbanksh said: Some years back I was told by a Spurs used agent the general consensus was that negotiating with LCFC aka Rudkin was a nightmare. Do we really trust this man who has directly caused a massive income loss through inept contracts and no planning, with taking the ub forward? You must be joking Can't be that much of a nightmare, he's been literally throwing money about at player contracts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said: If Parker is appointed, we'll end up looking back on the Rodgers era with teary-eyed nostalgia while playing 'Those were the days' by Mary Hopkin on repeat. I really hope we don’t get Scott Parker it’ll be out of the frying pan into the fire scenario ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: The profile of what we want is exactly what is dictated by the recuitment team and club. You push that the manager may have some input which I haven't seen anyone actually disagree with, however whatever input they get will still likely be based on the choices he gets given (which will be based on what the recruitment team decide) Sure - I've no doubt the manager will be choosing from options identified by the recruitment team. But if his response is an emphatic 'no', I can't see the club ignoring him and signing the player anyway. That's the kind of thing Todd Boehly would do, and he's barking mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 2 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: The problem is players sign for us who the manager doesn’t want. So many stories you here from players and former players who sign for a club, a new manager comes in and doesn’t fancy them - they never play and we’re stuck paying their wages. A manager needs to decide how he wants to play and what sort of players he needs - does he need more leaders, more aggressive players, players who can play out from the back, quick players, a target man etc. The new manager, should be deciding what he wants, then the recruitment team finds those players. It should be a joint decision between all parties, scout, manager and DoF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 3 minutes ago, fairbanksh said: Some years back I was told by a Spurs used agent the general consensus was that negotiating with LCFC aka Rudkin was a nightmare. Do we really trust this man who has directly caused a massive income loss through inept contracts and no planning, with taking the ub forward? You must be joking He needs to go but unfortunately the Schitt doesn’t seem to settle on him but others, a bit like Brendan you can just hear him “ Well Top it wasn’t my fault everyone else thought he’d be ideal !!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 Just now, ClaphamFox said: Sure - I've no doubt the manager will be choosing from options identified by the recruitment team. But if his response is an emphatic 'no', I can't see the club ignoring him and signing the player anyway. That's the kind of thing Todd Boehly would do, and he's barking mad. Oh yeah I wouldn't expect we'd ignore him completely, but the overall statergy will be based on what the club want, it at least provides some continuity should we change manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 1 minute ago, splinterdream said: It should be a joint decision between all parties, scout, manager and DoF The actual signing of a player yes, but the identification of a type of player we need should be on the manager. The scouts should then bring the options for DoF, Manager and who ever else to discuss and make a decision- but the type of player we need to play a particular way should be identified by the manager of the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 Fvck me, I LOVE twats who smoke cigars. GGEEEEEEEEERRRRIMMMMMMMIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNN. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 6 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Sure - I've no doubt the manager will be choosing from options identified by the recruitment team. But if his response is an emphatic 'no', I can't see the club ignoring him and signing the player anyway. That's the kind of thing Todd Boehly would do, and he's barking mad. Who said the manager gets ignored? I am sure there will be more to it than 'no'. I would hope they would have a good session around 'why' first. However, in the situation where you are the incoming manager you cannot expect for all recruitment to be paused ready for your yes or no. Anyone coming in to any job this summer will expect for a lot of wheels to have been turning already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Pliskin said: Fvck me, I LOVE twats who smoke cigars. GGEEEEEEEEERRRRIMMMMMMMIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNN. I read 'Treble wan**rs' on their t-shirt first time i looked at that. Edited 13 June 2023 by Chelmofox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LestaLad Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: How do they know that said manager won't be sacked after 6 games? What player signs a 4 year deal expecting to play for the same manager throughout that deal? Look at the sackings in the PL last season. Do you think Fofana, Sterling etc signed for Chelsea because Tuchel was in charge? I think most managers have a big influence on the decisions the players make. With Fofana I’m sure he said how excited he was to be playing under Rodgers, and it was a big influence on him coming here. Most managers speak with linked players to convince them to come and tell them where they will fit into the team/system etc. Edited 13 June 2023 by LestaLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Filbert Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 26 minutes ago, Matt said: 73rd day without a permanent manager. Rudkin probably thinks he’s being clever, can go running to Top to tell him he’s saved a few bob in manager wages by dragging it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 17 minutes ago, Koke said: We're a big club at this level. Players will sign for us because of our name and our wages. Do you think people won't sign for Chelsea or Man Utd if they were manageress. I reckon they'd think twice if they had a manageress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry_LCFC Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 I mean if we are really taking this long and eating into our summer rebuild, only to employ Scott pissing Parker, we are a bigger joke than I could ever imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 1 minute ago, LestaLad said: I think most managers have a big influence on the decisions the players make. With Fofana I’m sure he said how excited he was to be playing under Rodgers, and it was a big influence on him coming here. Most managers speak with with linked players to convince them to come and tell them where they will fit into the team/system etc. He may actually have been excited to play under him, but it's a pretty generic response by any new signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: Here's just one example of what Fulham and Bournemouth fans are saying about him. And there are loads saying more or less the same thing: Fascinating read..... here's hoping our board read it to before they about to appoint him.....seems like we'll get Son of Brendan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 20 minutes ago, Koke said: We're a big club at this level. Players will sign for us because of our name and our wages. Do you think people won't sign for Chelsea or Man Utd if they were manageress. I don't think their gender should come into it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LestaLad Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: He may actually have been excited to play under him, but it's a pretty generic response by any new signing. I’m not denying that but to act like it makes no difference to who the manager is, is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cropwellfox Posted 13 June 2023 Share Posted 13 June 2023 1 minute ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Fascinating read..... here's hoping our board read it to before they about to appoint him.....seems like we'll get Son of Brendan! With how far engrained in the whole culture of the place RodgersBall is, it’s probably a key thing they are looking for 🤦♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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