winteriscoming Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 I know it’s been mentioned before I’d like us to go for Diego Martinez. Obviously another name our board will not know. Whether he’d want to join us in the championship I’m not sure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 18 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Parker is who I expect the club will go for Promotions from the Championship with Fulham and Bournemouth, whilst playing possession side to side football ... safety first then!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 48 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: So long as it's not Smith, Gerrard, Lampard and any other failures I'm not too fussed. Can't be many candidates out there for us if an average spell at Villa being Gerrard's worst spell at a club makes him a failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 27 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Parker is who I expect the club will go for Promotions from the Championship with Fulham and Bournemouth, whilst playing possession side to side football Wouldn't overly mind him in the Championship especially compared to the thought of us getting someone like Lampard, only issue would then be his ability at Premier League level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 11 minutes ago, Stinky said: Can't be many candidates out there for us if an average spell at Villa being Gerrard's worst spell at a club makes him a failure. Villa were pretty awful under Gerrard. Emery came in a completely transformed them with pretty much an identical squad. Gerrard has done nothing that would qualify him to manage our club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxUK Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 2 hours ago, Number 6 said: Even if you hadn't seen enough of a scattergun approach to rule Smith out on his time with us, surely the way he took Norwich down and completely tanked with a team expecting to compete at the top would rule him out anyway? They were 5th and have done worse without him. But yes, they should have been competing higher. I think Smith getting the job he currently has says more about why he wouldn't be ruled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 Brighton wanted Kjetil Knutsen before they got Zerbi and their owner seems to be on the ball in recruiting staff and players, so I'm be ok with him plus he plays attack minded attractive football with them scoring loads of goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 8 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Villa were pretty awful under Gerrard. Emery came in a completely transformed them with pretty much an identical squad. Gerrard has done nothing that would qualify him to manage our club. I think you're doing Emery a disservice, to put it simply he's better than Gerrard. I'm not saying we can't do better than Gerrard but if we're a championship club in a weeks time and a guy that did average in less than a year at Villa in the PL and knocked Celtic off their perch in the SPL is below our level, then I think you're setting the bar too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboFox Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 8 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Brighton wanted Kjetil Knutsen before they got Zerbi and their owner seems to be on the ball in recruiting staff and players, so I'm be ok with him plus he plays attack minded attractive football with them scoring loads of goals. Would love this. Kjetil Knutsen joining Lars Knudsen. The knuts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 10 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said: They were 5th and have done worse without him. But yes, they should have been competing higher. I think Smith getting the job he currently has says more about why he wouldn't be ruled out. ...that is no real endorsement!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Stinky said: I think you're doing Emery a disservice, to put it simply he's better than Gerrard. I'm not saying we can't do better than Gerrard but if we're a championship club in a weeks time and a guy that did average in less than a year at Villa in the PL and knocked Celtic off their perch in the SPL is below our level, then I think you're setting the bar too high. I'm not sure that being average for less than a year at a Prem club before being sacked is a qualification for managing us. Managing one of the old firm clubs in Scotland doesn't tell us anything about a manager's ability to manage in England, which means Gerrard's sole relevant experience as a manager is a brief mediocre period at a Premier League club that vastly improved as soon as they sacked him. Ask any Villa fan - they were tactically confused and devoid of identity when Gerrard managed them. Even the players didn't seem to know what they were supposed to be doing. I'm not setting the bar too high. Gerrard has done nothing whatsoever to demonstrate he should be even considered for the job at Leicester. The only reason he's managed at two high-profile clubs is because of his reputation as a player - he would never have been considered for either otherwise. Edited 25 May 2023 by ClaphamFox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 5 minutes ago, Stinky said: I think you're doing Emery a disservice, to put it simply he's better than Gerrard. I'm not saying we can't do better than Gerrard but if we're a championship club in a weeks time and a guy that did average in less than a year at Villa in the PL and knocked Celtic off their perch in the SPL is below our level, then I think you're setting the bar too high. ...didn't Celtic bring back Neil Lennon at that time, a previous manager who was sacked by Bolton in the Championship!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said: I don't want him to stay on, but they were fifth, a fair bit off of automatic but he hardly had them bottom half. 50 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said: They were 5th and have done worse without him. But yes, they should have been competing higher. I think Smith getting the job he currently has says more about why he wouldn't be ruled out. Fair points. Didn't realise they were still in the playoffs at the time he left. 1.5ppg, on track for missing out on playoffs. Would hope we can do better, but we need some imagination from those hiring. Edited 25 May 2023 by Number 6 Stupid numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 Can't argue with 2 promotions but there is something about Scott Parker that I just can't get behind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 26 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: I'm not sure that being average for less than a year at a Prem club before being sacked is a qualification for managing us. Managing one of the old firm clubs in Scotland doesn't tell us anything about a manager's ability to manage in England, which means Gerrard's sole relevant experience as a manager is a brief mediocre period at a Premier League club that vastly improved as soon as they sacked him. Ask any Villa fan - they were tactically confused and devoid of identity when Gerrard managed them. Even the players didn't seem to know what they were supposed to be doing. I'm not setting the bar too high. Gerrard has done nothing whatsoever to demonstrate he should be even considered for the job at Leicester. The only reason he's managed at two high-profile clubs is because of his reputation as a player - he would never have been considered for either otherwise. Lol so give us some names then, remember to ensure they've managed in this country (else they may not be compatible) and they've never had an average or worse stint in charge of a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Stinky said: Lol so give us some names then, remember to ensure they've managed in this country (else they may not be compatible) and they've never had an average or worse stint in charge of a club. I didn't say that experience in other countries in general wasn't relevant - just Scotland. And Gerrard's only experience at managing in a quality league was brief and distinctly unimpressive, and ended up with him getting sacked. If he'd had proven success at managing other clubs at a decent level and had just had one average/poor spell at Villa, I'd probably regard him differently. But I don't think somebody who had one opportunity to manage in one of Europe's top five leagues and was was sacked after less than a year is qualified to manage us. And frankly I'm incredulous that anybody would even try to make a case for him. Edited 25 May 2023 by ClaphamFox 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyKopCorner Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 It'd be great to stay up and get Potter in my view. He plays good football and did a great job at Brighton building the foundations for their Europa League qualification. I think he'd be very good here - steady the ship and improve the squad significantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 3 minutes ago, Stinky said: Lol so give us some names then, remember to ensure they've managed in this country (else they may not be compatible) and they've never had an average or worse stint in charge of a club. ....isn't this our problem right there, we are not prepared to look or think outside the box!!! All we are going to end up with are the Dean Smiths of this world, plodding around the Championship and getting nowhere. We cannot restrict ourselves to these managers, who are out of work because their last club, felt to keep them would have meant certain relegation, and are willing to take a chance on someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 1 minute ago, CrazyKopCorner said: It'd be great to stay up and get Potter in my view. He plays good football and did a great job at Brighton building the foundations for their Europa League qualification. I think he'd be very good here - steady the ship and improve the squad significantly If we stay up, it may well be Potter. If we go down, it wouldn't surprise me if it does indeed turn out to be Parker. Both seem like exactly the kind of candidates our board would go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 5 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: If we stay up, it may well be Potter. If we go down, it wouldn't surprise me if it does indeed turn out to be Parker. Both seem like exactly the kind of candidates our board would go for. No doubt Parkers got a knack for getting sides back on track, I really needed to see how he got on with Bournemouth. It's if he gets us up, what happens then.. that's the question for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryDee8 Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 Ronald McDonald for me would be a good shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Lcfc Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 (edited) I would not be happy with Scott Parker. He scraped promotion with two sides who were way too good for the Championship, and then he got found out in the PL. He strikes me as a manager who tries to mask his blatant incompetence by blaming other people. We need a long-term manager. Take a gamble on somebody abroad. Under Parker, the best case scenario is that we would bounce back straightaway. That would be great *obviously* but we would be sat 20th by Christmas. Edited 25 May 2023 by Matt_Lcfc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyC74 Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 (edited) Whatever happens on Sunday I hope that the Club shows a bit of ambition in terms of who they appoint as the next manager, whether that is Knutsen, Hutter or Potter or similar. I worry though, especially given how much work is due this Summer, the Board will go with one of the usual suspects and make a lazy decision just for speed’s sake. Whatever league we are in, based on the turnover of players and honking performances / results, we need someone to instill a new identity in the team. Edited 25 May 2023 by JimmyC74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 2 minutes ago, Rusko187 said: No doubt Parkers got a knack for getting sides back on track, I really needed to see how he got on with Bournemouth. It's if he gets us up, what happens then.. that's the question for me. It's a good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 25 May 2023 Share Posted 25 May 2023 1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said: It's a good question. People look at Parker as though he could be an abysmal appointment, but he's had 1 crack at PL with Fulham. He has to get another opportunity from somewhere, if we just give people 1 chance there's probably a lot of managers/players who we may never have seen again. Like Vardy, he first came in and didn't do much... the rest is history! There are other managers I'd prefer, but I wouldn't be wholly against Parker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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