ronnup Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 They'll keep Smith, you watch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 29 May 2023 Author Share Posted 29 May 2023 If we go for Smith we aren’t getting promoted he’s not good enough imo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 17 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said: I’m not saying this should happen at all, I’ve put forward a list of about 10 names I think we should seriously consider and this man isn’t anywhere near the top, but in hindsight, would anyone else genuinely consider Puel? I know I know the football was dreadful for a long while, but he was a stable pair of hands, he was also up against some very powerful players behind the scenes like Vardy and Kasper who I think we all knew didn’t like his plans, and over the years previous we had seen how much player power had an effect on club decisions. Puel did a fantastic job during the tragedy, and his rebuild was very very good, has a great eye for a player and we are in a league now which is obviously competitive but ultimately less talented. just have this feeling he’s the sort of manager who if given the reigns isn’t going to be a yes man and will drive forward with a plan, which is desperately what we need, take power away from the board. please don’t hurt me, just curious. edit: Sod it, give me someone unstable and exciting who just wants to attack the ball Jaissle in I'd maybe take Puel if he was coming in to a DoF role - but never as manager. He did a decent job at the squad management side of things - moved us on from the aging title winning side and brought in some good players via his connections (Ricardo, Tielemans), but the footballing side was abysmal. Won't happen in a million years though, and I'm sure there's more suitable options for both roles anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 They’re not keeping Smith, chill. As reported by the itk, they’ll sound out Potter, get rejected and go for Vieira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesta2014 Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 Not sure who it is, but whoever it is needs to be appointed this week! Give them the longest time possible to shape the squad etc before next season. Do they want to offer evans a contract as an example. No point the club doing it this has to be the new managers choice. They needed appointing quickly and I’d like to think we have someone lined up who was willing to join which ever division we are in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyC74 Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 6 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: I don’t think Smith was as bad as some fans made out - we had two fundamental issues of goalkeeper and fitness - that he couldn’t solve. Don’t get me wrong, Iversen was an improvement vs. Ward but we don’t lose 5-3 to Fulham with an experienced, quality keeper. Leno has been massive for Fulham, a big factor in their success. And we performed well on expected goals - it was fine margins in the end. But agree he’s not the right person - we need a younger, more energetic manager who will reform the club top to bottom. A younger version of Pearson. Who that is, I don’t know. Rudkin, in among his many failings, appears to lack European knowledge so unlikely we get anyone imaginative. It’s one of the reasons why we stuck too long with BR, he was a one-trick pony. Given we have had a couple of seasons in the Europa League / conference you would like to think our Clubs eyes would be open to some of the potential options out there - but agreed I doubt they would even consider approaching one of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Fox Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ronnup said: They'll keep Smith, you watch Knowing how poor the decision making is at our club at the moment, this is a genuine fear for me. Comes across as a decent guy but clueless. Although tbh even if it isn't him I have zero faith in them to make a decent appointment. It feels like fundamental change is needed at the club Top to bottom. However the levels of complacency there which has led to us sleepwalking to relegation, would indicate their mindset will be that we were unlucky to go down and as such not much will need to change to get us back up again. Edited 29 May 2023 by Brizzle Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 29 May 2023 Author Share Posted 29 May 2023 @Sambiasso when are we likely to appoint our new manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 5 minutes ago, Lionator said: They’re not keeping Smith, chill. As reported by the itk, they’ll sound out Potter, get rejected and go for Vieira. Approaching Potter would be a sign of their continued delusion. No way would he consider coming here. Harshly treated at Chelsea, and then to us in the Championship. And what has Vieira done?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 9 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: I don’t think Smith was as bad as some fans made out - we had two fundamental issues of goalkeeper and fitness - that he couldn’t solve. Don’t get me wrong, Iversen was an improvement vs. Ward but we don’t lose 5-3 to Fulham with an experienced, quality keeper. Leno has been massive for Fulham, a big factor in their success. And we performed well on expected goals - it was fine margins in the end. But agree he’s not the right person - we need a younger, more energetic manager who will reform the club top to bottom. A younger version of Pearson. Who that is, I don’t know. Rudkin, in among his many failings, appears to lack European knowledge so unlikely we get anyone imaginative. It’s one of the reasons why we stuck too long with BR, he was a one-trick pony. Think that’s well summed up on him really. Genuinely think he was at a loss why Fulham happened. By the end, I think he sussed the squad a bit more but just not enough games for him to make the impact. Our defensive shape yesterday was so much better with Evans sweeping up. When we had those ‘basketball games’ I’m sure our fitness told. Throw in there is a good number of that starting XI carrying injuries I suspect 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 4 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: If we go for Smith we aren’t getting promoted he’s not good enough imo. Norwich fans don't rate him at all. He's the obvious safe option though and completely uninspiring which is why I think he'll be near the top of the list. Those making the decisions will no doubt think it to be a good appointment. I've got no trust in them to get this right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenfox Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 Puel? Jesus Christ what is this obsession with appointing former managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 7 minutes ago, Lionator said: They’re not keeping Smith, chill. As reported by the itk, they’ll sound out Potter, get rejected and go for Vieira. Please not Vieira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 5 minutes ago, Lionator said: They’re not keeping Smith, chill. As reported by the itk, they’ll sound out Potter, get rejected and go for Vieira. No hope of getting Potter to come to the Championship, even if we offered him an open cheque book (he knows that that's no guarantee of success from bitter recent experience and I don't think Top has the cash anyway). Viera is an interesting one. Can't decide if he's good or another Lampard/Gerrard. Did okayish at Nice and oversaw some excellent recruitment at Palace. But he seems a bit cautious - always felt that under him Palace played with the handbrake on despite having some excellent attacking players. I think on balance I'd give him a go tbh - a bit like Fulham gave Marco Silva a second chance. He's a name who will attract players and we might stand a good chance of getting some top Arsenal youngsters on loan with him in charge - getting PL youngsters on loan seems to be a key part of the blueprint for promotion from the Championship these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 Frank Schmitt? He’s got FC Heidenheim promoted for the first time in their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfanlee23 Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 13 minutes ago, Xen said: I'd maybe take Puel if he was coming in to a DoF role - but never as manager. He did a decent job at the squad management side of things - moved us on from the aging title winning side and brought in some good players via his connections (Ricardo, Tielemans), but the footballing side was abysmal. Won't happen in a million years though, and I'm sure there's more suitable options for both roles anyway. DOF would be the perfect role tbh but I think we would need to give him a voice regarding which managers we go for since I think he’s obviously got a very strong idea over how football should be run, I’d hate to see a situation where the DOF has the complete opposite idea of the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 13 minutes ago, ronnup said: They'll keep Smith, you watch That would be fine IF they brought in a good strong DoF overseeing it all.............................first name Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 (edited) Puel to replace Rudkin as DoF Potter as coach That would be my ideal reshuffle, but neither will happen. I don’t believe potter would come, and I don’t believe we can afford him anyway. Edited 29 May 2023 by FoxesWalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basildon Fox Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 4 hours ago, tom27111 said: You know what...Nathan Jones. Slate me So you're a moron for wanting Pearson back according to you and then you mention Bathan ****ing Jones. This place! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 13 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said: Norwich fans don't rate him at all. He's the obvious safe option though and completely uninspiring which is why I think he'll be near the top of the list. Those making the decisions will no doubt think it to be a good appointment. I've got no trust in them to get this right. Then went backwards themselves. Not that im advocating the bloke to stay on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 Villa are in Europe next season. We had a chance of appointing Emery but our decision makers are incompetent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 13 minutes ago, Brenfox said: Puel? Jesus Christ what is this obsession with appointing former managers. Wouldn’t want him as a coach, but he did a superb job of squad building. In my opinion, he is largely to thank for the initial success under Rodgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 7 minutes ago, Pliskin said: Frank Schmitt? He’s got FC Heidenheim promoted for the first time in their history. He’s been there for their entire progression for the divisions. One club man. Very unlikely. He’s turned down decent sized clubs in Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Fox Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 14 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said: Norwich fans don't rate him at all. He's the obvious safe option though and completely uninspiring which is why I think he'll be near the top of the list. Those making the decisions will no doubt think it to be a good appointment. I've got no trust in them to get this right. Yup. Know quite a few Norwich lads and the concensus was that he was tactically naive with no plan. Tbf the next guy who came in didn't do any better but they're also a broken club at the moment, which goes back to my earlier point that if there isn't fundamental change of the way the club is run as a whole, then if probably won't make a lot of difference who is manager. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfanlee23 Posted 29 May 2023 Share Posted 29 May 2023 I don’t want Smith, but I’ve said time and time again, he comes across as tactically inept at times since he arrived, however in our last 3 games the players were largely ignoring him. He’s been stood on the sideline for weeks screaming at players to get forward whilst they aimlessly default to Brendan ball. I’ve criticised smiths overall approach to the dire situation we were in where he seemed to timid to get us attacking and was setting us up to be hard to beat rather than to fight for the win, but with that said, whenever he turned on the switch to let the players get forward, they point blank ignored him. I don’t want Dean Smith, but I also don’t think he takes much responsibility for the games he was in charge of, he takes some obviously, but he was pissing into the wind with this group of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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