ClaphamFox Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 8 minutes ago, lcfc80 said: Did a decent job at Rangers (i know i know) but learnt through the ranks at Liverpool as well. Could be a decent fit here, as he's got to rebuild his managerial career whilst we need to rebuild the club. It would be a positive move for me, and would lift the place. Anyone like Smith would be like going back to the Bassett or Levein times Ask any Villa fan - they love Smith and think Gerrard took them backwards. Why would you want us to take somebody who recently performed demonstrably worse than Smith at the same job? As it happens I don’t want Smith either, but I’d take him in an instant over Gerrard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 smith leading the betting. Surprised fat frank isn't in the list. Ralph hassenhuttl would be my choice - he runs a tight ship and everything is consistent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 Just now, foxinsocks said: smith leading the betting. Surprised fat frank isn't in the list. Ralph hassenhuttl would be my choice - he runs a tight ship and everything is consistent. Which bookies have odds? There weren’t any yesterday… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SouthStandUpperTier Posted 31 May 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 31 May 2023 They'll choose the option that requires the least amount of thought, imagination and due diligence. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 betfair 1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said: Which bookies have odds? There weren’t any yesterday… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 24 minutes ago, lcfc80 said: I'd be happy to take Steven Gerrard, could be the ideal time seeing as we need a full rebuild. Would probably take the job as well. Defo not Smith for me, the Newcastle game convinced me he's a big no-no ...Newcastle was the only time he prepared the team as a manager!!! His take on the other games was very poor and as for Fulham, I have no idea what transpired before the game because something must have to have resulted in that performance. Having Gerrard in because we need full rebuild, is also a poor take on our move to go forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 2 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Which bookies have odds? There weren’t any yesterday… I’d take Betfair with a pinch of salt they have poch at 4s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 9 minutes ago, Stadt said: Each appointment or signing should be judged on it's own merit but emulating Southampton hasn't worked very well for us up to now. Puel, Vestergaard, Bertrand and Glover haven't been roaring successes. Totally take you point that he's probably better than his spell there but it's just so lazy, so uninspiring - it's got us written all over it. But I think even his spell at Southampton on the whole was decent. He saves them from near certain relegation in his first season, they finished 11th in his second season despite their 9-0 drubbing and he comfortably kept them in the league for the following two seasons with what was a pretty average squad. Their fans felt like it was maybe time for a change at the end but what was very telling is that there wasn't any resentment towards him. They appreciated that to some extent at least, they found their identity again after the Puel/Pellegrino/Hughes horror show. I'm drawing parallels between him and Marco Silva, who had an Everton team that was better than anything Hassenhuttl had at Southampton (in my opinion at least) lingering around the bottom three at Christmas. He dropped down o the championship and got Fulham up with ease and has done very well since. I think Hassenhuttl could do that given the opportunity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 Just now, HankMarvin said: I’d take Betfair with a pinch of salt they have poch at 4s I am a paddy power client - but they have not listed the bet yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmt Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 18 minutes ago, Rigga said: What Emery has done at villa with the same crop of players has shows what a fraud gerrard is as a manager Agree Gerrard isn't good but Emery is an elite manager who unfortunately has an accent people like to mock. Very underrated and potentially unfair as a comparison to managers we are linked with. Although agree we shouldn't go Gerrard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFox Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 It’ll be someone mediocre but with a relatively high profile at this level KP don’t do outside the box managerial appointments 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 Just now, foxinsocks said: I am a paddy power client - but they have not listed the bet yet Rafa and Potter favourite at 2/1 smith 4.7/1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guesty Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: Hassenhuttl I think is being unfairly judged. His record across his entire managerial career is very respectable. I agree with this, I also think it's the reason why we'll struggle to get any up and coming European manager. They all know they only get one chance in England. Managers like Smith, Parker, Lampard and Gerrard will be offered jobs after failure. Whereas managers like Farke, Wagner, Marsch are all totally written off and have to go abroad to rebuild their reputation. Even Unai Emery was mocked and written off because of his accent and he couldn't get Arsenal in the Champions League. There are people who wouldn't have wanted him here, yet he's won Ligue 1 and the Europa League x4. Hassenhuttl was at Southampton when there's constant unrest at board level. As soon as they sacked him they fell off a cliff. Whether he's the answer who knows, but I would like to see some energy and pressing in our team. Edited 31 May 2023 by Guesty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentofthegame Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 35 minutes ago, lcfc80 said: I'd be happy to take Steven Gerrard, could be the ideal time seeing as we need a full rebuild. Would probably take the job as well. Defo not Smith for me, the Newcastle game convinced me he's a big no-no Don't want him anywhere near the club, are we completely forgetting that he had a Villa side that finished 7th this season in the midst of a relegation battle before the World Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Max Power Posted 31 May 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 31 May 2023 Wasn’t it common knowledge Gerrards success was mostly down to his back room team who have moved on? Or specifically Michael Beale? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lcfc80 Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said: Ask any Villa fan - they love Smith and think Gerrard took them backwards. Why would you want us to take somebody who recently performed demonstrably worse than Smith at the same job? As it happens I don’t want Smith either, but I’d take him in an instant over Gerrard. That same thing can be said about many potential managers, Ralph, done nothing with Southampton. Smith, took us and Norwich down, (his win ratio isn't much better than Gerrards at Villa and that includes in the championship with Jack Grealish in the team). Just to mention 2. Some others mentioned wouldn't even dream of coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indierich06 Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 I would take Hassenhuttl right now, I think he's very underrated and did a great job at Southampton during a very difficult period - and you can see what's happened to them since he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lcfc80 Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 9 minutes ago, studentofthegame said: Don't want him anywhere near the club, are we completely forgetting that he had a Villa side that finished 7th this season in the midst of a relegation battle before the World Cup? As someone else has mentioned, Emery is an elite level coach with 20 years of proven decent track level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVFox Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 12 minutes ago, MattFox said: It’ll be someone mediocre but with a relatively high profile at this level KP don’t do outside the box managerial appointments You say that, but Ranieri & Puel were not exactly at the forefront of everyone's minds. Rodgers was a little different where it seemed the obvious ambitious choice. What they do look for however is track record. I think they will look to Rafa or Parker, as much as I'd rather we went for someone a little more forward thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyFOX12 Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 24 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Ask any Villa fan - they love Smith and think Gerrard took them backwards. Why would you want us to take somebody who recently performed demonstrably worse than Smith at the same job? As it happens I don’t want Smith either, but I’d take him in an instant over Gerrard. Would you take Lampard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzymuzzet Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 Think Duff would be my choice at this point on the basis that he appears to be Pearson 2.0 - done a fantastic job at two clubs now, big into the psychology side of things which we need right now, and seems tactically astute. However I would take Hassenhuttl as he's experienced and has improved every team he's managed. Won't take any nonsense from that Rudkin bumbaclaat either. Not massively impressed by most of the other names mentioned here. I like Rafa but think we need a bloke who sees this as a serious opportunity to build something rather than someone towards the end of their career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stopharage Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 I doubt very much that we’ll get a manager who is on the up, such as McKenna. Too much chance of their reputation being tarnished if they don’t do that well. Which, let’s face it, seems more likely with Rudkin behind the scenes. If we don’t get Smith, I think we’ll end up with someone who has been round the block a bit, like Wilder or a systems guy. I would love for us to get Potter, with a 5 year contract and brief to sort the U23/academy out. No chance of that happening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Port Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 (edited) Used to rate Hassenhuttl, played some exciting stuff on the pitch but it was a bit weird when he dropped to the floor and cried after beating Klopp’s Liverpool, and he wears prostate gloves. After signing two of the players that we beat 9-0, knowing how that went, if we then go and get the manager it’s just too funny. Edited 31 May 2023 by Levi Port Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 4 minutes ago, BillyFOX12 said: Would you take Lampard? Never in a million years! 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 31 May 2023 Share Posted 31 May 2023 Gerrard and Lampard??? FFS We want an up and coming manager with something to prove, not ones who get managerial jobs off the back of their amazing playing careers. May as well go for Ruud Gullit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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