Ashley Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 1 minute ago, Steve Earle said: Ha! I won’t keep playing but you really don’t need WBs with 3 CBs. Man C don’t. Very good piece in The Athletic on this this week. 3-box-3 is the way! Just now, ClaphamFox said: The debate over whether a back three necessitates wing backs has the potential to get really interesting... Two completely different things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 4 minutes ago, Steve Earle said: Ha! I won’t keep playing but you really don’t need WBs with 3 CBs. Man C don’t. Very good piece in The Athletic on this this week. 3-box-3 is the way! I've put some things related to this in a Tactics thread. John Stones starts on paper at right back for Man City, but moves in field to play as a double pivot alongside Rodri. We just signed a player who started as a central midfielder, then moved back to defence and is known for having good passing and being very influential... Or we might try Ricardo in a position like that, though it takes away from his running and driving at the opposition, which i think is too good to pass up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 15 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: I've put some things related to this in a Tactics thread. John Stones starts on paper at right back for Man City, but moves in field to play as a double pivot alongside Rodri. We just signed a player who started as a central midfielder, then moved back to defence and is known for having good passing and being very influential... Or we might try Ricardo in a position like that, though it takes away from his running and driving at the opposition, which i think is too good to pass up. I’ll dip in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLAN Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 Doesn’t strike me as a player who would back himself to make the step up. He’s had a very easy ride from Rodgers regarding his overall contribution to games for the last few years and won’t get that elsewhere I hope he is asked to add more in overall contribution if he stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 5 minutes ago, FLAN said: Doesn’t strike me as a player who would back himself to make the step up. He’s had a very easy ride from Rodgers regarding his overall contribution to games for the last few years and won’t get that elsewhere I hope he is asked to add more in overall contribution if he stays Btw his recultance to move is far more human and family reasons than ambition of his career 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 52 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: I've put some things related to this in a Tactics thread. John Stones starts on paper at right back for Man City, but moves in field to play as a double pivot alongside Rodri. We just signed a player who started as a central midfielder, then moved back to defence and is known for having good passing and being very influential... Or we might try Ricardo in a position like that, though it takes away from his running and driving at the opposition, which i think is too good to pass up. PS - I’m not sure you can still say Stones ‘starts on paper’ at RB? We all know where he starts, it’s RH. Anyway @StriderHiryu I look forward to joining you on the tactics thread! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: It's kind of a given no? My comment was more personal than the actual positional i.e. the view that we need to play a traditional fullback at wide in a 3-back formation, like Thomas, Justin, Castange, Ricardo, kristiansen. Chelsea won a league with Victor Mose playing wingback, Man City just won a league with proper fullbacks. 1 hour ago, Ricey said: ...because if not then it's either a flat back 5 at all times or you play wingers and get killed on the flanks. I've only seen two LCFC managers play a good 3 back..... 1) Martin O'Neill who often used Guppy and Impey as the wide men in a 3 back who were both wingers! 2) Nigel Pearson convert to a 3 back as part of the great escape and often used Schlupp and Albrighton both wingers. Edited 5 July 2023 by coolhandfox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 I think we all just assume footballers are greedy mercenaries now and always looking for their next payday. Barnes doesn’t strike me as that kind of footballer. If we wants to stay for family reasons good for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 21 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: I've only seen two LCFC managers play a good 3 back..... 1) Martin O'Neill who often used Guppy and Impey as the wide men in a 3 back who were both wingers! 2) Esteban Cambiasso convert to a 3 back as part of the great escape and often used Schlupp and Albrighton both wingers. Fixed for you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, EnderbyFox said: The only issue I can see with him staying is where does he play? From the players we've been linked with so far it suggests the main system we are pushing for is 3 at the back. Does he switch to a second striker? Can't see him as a wing back? Anywhere in the front 3, be it in a 343 or a 3412. Edited 5 July 2023 by JimJams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 1 hour ago, CosbehFox said: Btw his recultance to move is far more human and family reasons than ambition of his career BUT CAN HE AFFORD HIS NEW MORTGAGE PAYMENTS?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 Looks quite simple with Barnes. Think if he gets a move to a team where he doesn’t need to move house he goes, so probably anyone other than Newcastle. If he stays, I’d hope we protect ourselves from a Tielemans situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AKCJ Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 50m **** me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyKopCorner Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 £50m would do the trick wouldn’t it - we could bring in another 5 or 6 players with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyC74 Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 5 minutes ago, Steve Earle said: 50m feels pretty much the max we could get and on that basis we should sell and reinvest in 2/3 players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravel Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 BITE HAND OFF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 Cheers Barnsy, knew we’d fleece at least one club this summer. It’s what we do best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coolhandfox Posted 5 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 5 July 2023 50m would be a decent deal, but we would need to scout some decent replacement. Without him and Maddison that's 23 goals last season walking out the door. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post weller54 Posted 5 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 5 July 2023 4 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: 50m would be a decent deal, but we would need to scout some decent replacement. Without him and Maddison that's 23 goals last season walking out the door. God yes!!.. Without them we would have had a disastrous season. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 20 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said: £50m would do the trick wouldn’t it - we could bring in another 5 or 6 players with that I think we might need the money for the financial hole rather than spending it. can’t see 50m although now we have madders money in and Barnes has two years left, we should push our case and ask fir it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 Anything north of £40m with the potential to reach/exceed £50m would be great. I still feel angry about last season & while the board & the poison dwarf take most of the blame, the players must take their share. Barnes’ utter uselessness out of possession isn’t something I’ll miss. #DrainTheSwamp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain King Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 Would be disappointed with £50m. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 Once done. Then Vesty (no chance) followed by the Belgian contingent and Ward. Come on Rudkin this is a frigging walk in the park….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyKopCorner Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 3 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Once done. Then Vesty (no chance) followed by the Belgian contingent and Ward. Come on Rudkin this is a frigging walk in the park….. The feeling of relief if we could rid ourselves of all of the deadwood and have a tight 25/26 man squad would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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