fox_favourite Posted 10 July 2023 Share Posted 10 July 2023 6 hours ago, Horibbly Wrong said: "Newcastle are keen to sign Harvey Barnes from Newcastle".. Just crazy A new level of money laundering!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gamble92 Posted 10 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 10 July 2023 Newcastle seem to remember FFP exists when they bid for our players 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluearmyfox28 Posted 10 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 10 July 2023 People have got to stop with this narrative that Barnes doesn’t want to be here and being bitter because of it. I am pretty sure it’s been reported a few times that he is happy to stay, the truth is we need the resources from Barnes likewise we did with Maddison to rebuild the squad. Barnes would of been due his contract renewal negotiations this year, if he’s being told that they need to cash in on him, how can you blame him for that? So many people on this forum choose to pick a made up narrative rather than looking at the reality of the situation. Is it a shame? Of course. You never want to see a homegrown player flourish at the highest level for anyone other than your club unless it was for a major player in world football. Football is a business and sometimes you have to make hard decisions to move forward. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 7 hours ago, Gamble92 said: Newcastle seem to remember FFP exists when they bid for our players And we remember they have wonga, so we need to get as much as we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 16 hours ago, jv1 said: cheers- they can bid 25m all they want- no chance we sell for that- zero- pointless bid that doesnt get them anything- doesnt even unsettle the player that for that- barnes will have been told already by the hierarchy that if anyone matches our valuation we will consider it- that will be £40m - no less- we do not sell players for cheap- maddison only went for that because of his 1yr left I also think the reduced Maddison price was agreed amicably as spurs agreed to a) conclude quickly b) conclude within the last financial reporting year There's more to negotiation than just lowballing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 35 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: I also think the reduced Maddison price was agreed amicably as spurs agreed to a) conclude quickly b) conclude within the last financial reporting year There's more to negotiation than just lowballing And I believe that there are considerable add ons based around his potential to have fitness issues. as ever, no two scenarios are comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieADZ Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 why dont the toon owners just do what they did with Neves, one of their saudi teams buy him, he plays there for 6 months then goes newcastle plus theyd pay what we want and wont get done by FFP win win i say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 2 hours ago, Paninistickers said: I also think the reduced Maddison price was agreed amicably as spurs agreed to a) conclude quickly b) conclude within the last financial reporting year There's more to negotiation than just lowballing Maddison was clearly going to leave so it made sense to get it done quickly rather than let it drag on. Barnes is a completely different case - we don't need to sell him and he'd probably be happy to stay. We can afford to set a high fee and refuse to budge. A lot will come down to what Maresca wants - if he really wants Barnes to stay, I think he'll stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 So we're still in the noone knows sweet FA stage over the transfer then🤷♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFish Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 18 hours ago, Merchant_Banker said: Any chance of a swap + cash? Could Leicester afford it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 3 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said: So we're still in the noone knows sweet FA stage over the transfer then🤷♂️ Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 Starting to stall this deal, is it case of Barnes reluctant to join Newcastle. There was talk he didnt want to relocate to far which cancelled out the West Ham move... yet of course Newcastle much further away but the deal continues. Perhaps hes trying to edge a move to Villa instead who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 2 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: Starting to stall this deal, is it case of Barnes reluctant to join Newcastle. There was talk he didnt want to relocate to far which cancelled out the West Ham move... yet of course Newcastle much further away but the deal continues. Perhaps hes trying to edge a move to Villa instead who knows. The narrative in the media is the player wants the move but there hasn’t been any proper contact between the clubs. Who knows what the truth is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe90lcfc Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 https://apple.news/AGh8vTwI_Rj2UIlkf8qC0ow a good old bidding war wouldn’t go a miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkisnorbo Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 When was the last time a bidding war actually happened in English football? Is it not one of the great misnomers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 It doesn't happen. We either accept bids or reject them. As soon as we accept one that's generally it done. I suppose the theory people have is that we keep rejecting it to the point they keep leapfrogging to a sizeable fee. Which we know isn't the way it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 Let just say he's going to Saudi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, JimJams said: It doesn't happen. We either accept bids or reject them. As soon as we accept one that's generally it done. I suppose the theory people have is that we keep rejecting it to the point they keep leapfrogging to a sizeable fee. Which we know isn't the way it works. The only thing that forces a potential buying club to keep upping its offer is the selling club's need (or otherwise) to sell. If the selling club doesn't need to sell and doesn't particularly want to, it is obviously in a much stronger bargaining position. We sold Maddision for less than he's worth because he had a year left on his contract and wanted to leave, and we needed to get it done quickly. I don't think any of those factors apply to Barnes and I can see us being extremely stubborn over this one, as we have been in the past. Edited 11 July 2023 by ClaphamFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 25 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: The only thing that forces a potential buying club to keep upping its offer is the selling club's need (or otherwise) to sell. If the selling club doesn't need to sell and doesn't particularly want to, it is obviously in a much stronger bargaining position. We sold Maddision for less than he's worth because he had a year left on his contract and wanted to leave, and we needed to get it done quickly. I don't think any of those factors apply to Barnes and I can see us being extremely stubborn over this one, as we have been in the past. Thing is, even if the press report £25m (Not sure why the press need to make richer clubs look frugal), it by no means indicates this is the agreed fee. So any outrage from a reported figure should be tempered with suspicion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 Rudders now has big Willy standing right behind him during the negotiations with Staveley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 1 hour ago, kingkisnorbo said: When was the last time a bidding war actually happened in English football? Is it not one of the great misnomers? Arsenal offered 80m for Rice, Man City offered 90m then West Ham got 105m from Arsenal about 2 weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 4 Life Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 1 hour ago, kingkisnorbo said: When was the last time a bidding war actually happened in English football? Is it not one of the great misnomers? About a week ago with Declan Rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-newcastle-set-to-close-harvey-barnes-signing-after-agreement-reached/ Pants source, but thought I'd post as they say, sharing is caring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 The fact he wasn’t risked in this afternoons training game would suggest that agreement isn’t that far away for his departure from the club. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 11 July 2023 Share Posted 11 July 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, fox_favourite said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-newcastle-set-to-close-harvey-barnes-signing-after-agreement-reached/ Pants source, but thought I'd post as they say, sharing is caring That story is comical: Newcastle will try to close the deal for Harvey Barnes this week, sources have told Football Insider. The Magpies want to pay around the £30-£40million mark for the Leicester winger. The Premier League side are still yet to offer newly Championship outfit Leicester an offer, but Barnes has agreed to make the move to St James Park. So they haven’t even bothered to make us an offer and the fee they want to pay is well below what we want, but a deal is ‘close’? 😂 Edited 11 July 2023 by ClaphamFox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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