les-tah Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, goose2010 said: I dont get how they can then just blow 70m+ on Tonali ? It is going to turn into a playing laundering with them and Saudi. No idea how it is being over looked. This whole saudi money laundering thing is too wide scale now and they wont do anything about it. Better off scrapping FFP and just letting every team go wild and just have a quota on english players that teams will need to fulfil. Edited 19 July 2023 by les-tah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nalis said: Its probably the same person at Newcastle and Al Ahli emailing each other with what appears to be hard line negotiations but from two different email addresses Then when the final face-to-face meeting takes place, it's the same person moving from one side of the desk to the other, putting a hat on then taking it off, to hammer out the last details. Edited 19 July 2023 by ClaphamFox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 4 minutes ago, goose2010 said: I dont get how they can then just blow 70m+ on Tonali ? It is going to turn into a playing laundering with them and Saudi. No idea how it is being over looked. They will have a transfer budget like all clubs but it isn’t a limitless pot due to FFP therefore rather than bloat the squad with mediocre signings they most likely will target 2/3 high quality signings who enhance the starting XI and by default strengthens the overall squad depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 25 minutes ago, StanSP said: Funny how Newcastle fans don't want to be exploited with the Barnes deal, but then they'll happily take full advantage of their connections and links to fund their transfers for a player that shouldn't be going anywhere for half the fee reported... Romano is reporting that the ASM fee is £21m I dint think it’s in Newcastle’s interest for any fee from Saudi to look ‘too high’. 10 minutes ago, goose2010 said: I dont get how they can then just blow 70m+ on Tonali ? It is going to turn into a playing laundering with them and Saudi. No idea how it is being over looked. They underspent for many years under Ashley. Hence they had plenty of slack to spend on fees over the first couple years. They’ve pretty much taken care of that over the past few windows and now they need to make some sales to stay within the boundaries. I know they got about 15m for wood and with approx 20m for ASM I would think they will look to take in another 10/15m before the end of the window. Barnes will not be their last purchase this window either. they are being heavily scrutinised by the big six who are desperate for them to slip up - moral hypocrisy on a grand scale ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richmondfox Posted 19 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 19 July 2023 9 hours ago, Gamble92 said: You have to question the sanity of our fans at times. He ripped the ****ing Championship up 4 years ago. He's just scored 13 goals in the best league in the world. He was struggling at times because he was playing with absolute dross who didn't give a flying **** most the time. There are players described by some as world class who wouldn't have scored 13 goals from the wing in our team last season. Mad how much shit players from our own city get. It genuinely is just because they come from the academy that there's this pre conceived assumption they've just waltzed into the squad, and would never be there otherwise. Barnes did a job in a useless team who were happy to pass back rather than forwards. So many times he would have a run on and Castagne or Thomas would just pass back or sideways before even looking forward to chip a ball into space. He would also have to hug the touch line and try and get his head on the ball from Iverson’s goal kick, Having KDH stink out any attack and Soumare jogging around didn’t help. We will miss Barnes and the money to get the cliched young hungry players won’t replace a known known. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 23 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Romano is reporting that the ASM fee is £21m I dint think it’s in Newcastle’s interest for any fee from Saudi to look ‘too high’. They underspent for many years under Ashley. Hence they had plenty of slack to spend on fees over the first couple years. They’ve pretty much taken care of that over the past few windows and now they need to make some sales to stay within the boundaries. I know they got about 15m for wood and with approx 20m for ASM I would think they will look to take in another 10/15m before the end of the window. Barnes will not be their last purchase this window either. they are being heavily scrutinised by the big six who are desperate for them to slip up - moral hypocrisy on a grand scale ! Out of the big 6 - if Man City start to point any fingers at Newcastle that would be irony personified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFish Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 1 hour ago, goose2010 said: Howe is playing the FFP card again i see.... Why do they care? All that would happen is they would get fined? no one else seems to care? Can't win, do what Man Utd and the others have done and we'd be shot with shit, don't break FFP and we're criticised as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieADZ Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 3 minutes ago, TheFish said: Can't win, do what Man Utd and the others have done and we'd be shot with shit, don't break FFP and we're criticised as well. its the usual tho, one rule for one , one rule for another everton will probably get away with it too, give they are one of the prem golden old boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TheFish said: Can't win, do what Man Utd and the others have done and we'd be shot with shit, don't break FFP and we're criticised as well. I think you are missing the point. Blatant Sports Washing being used to get around FFP compliance is something that should be stamped out immediately. Man U have not employed that specific tactic as far as I am aware? Edited 19 July 2023 by mozartfox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilLCFC Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 We really shouldn’t be letting him go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 10 minutes ago, TheFish said: Can't win, do what Man Utd and the others have done and we'd be shot with shit, don't break FFP and we're criticised as well. To be fair its not like you havent bent the rules to get these owners in the first place is it. Howe pleading poverty is soon going to get boring especially if you dont have a season like last. No club should be able to sell any players to clubs that are owned by the same people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 19 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 19 July 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, TheFish said: Can't win, do what Man Utd and the others have done and we'd be shot with shit, don't break FFP and we're criticised as well. You can't do what Manchester United have done, they use their enormous commercial revenue because they're one of the biggest clubs on the planet. You don't have that because nobody much gives a shit about Newcastle outside of the North East. For what it's worth I don't like FFP, it's a joke and it's absolutely there just to stop New Rich clubs from breaking the monopoly the likes of United and Liverpool have. But whilst it exists, being allowed to get around it by having another club you own buy your own players is absolutely absurd. It's literally like a little kid on Football Manager cheating by playing two clubs at once. Selling players is hard, finding someone willing to take ASM off you for a fee like that should be hard. There's a reason we've been stuck with a whole load of dead wood for years we fvcked up in buying. I appreciate you can't directly help who owns your football club and I don't expect you to be flogged as fans for their sins but we (and by we I mean football fans in general not just Leicester supporters) would certainly appreciate it if you had at least some self awareness. The shamelessness with which most of the Toon seem to have immediately started apologising for their owners and whatabouting everyone else is just tragic. Edited 19 July 2023 by Finnegan 14 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edingleyfox Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 I'd be happier if there was some confidence that the club can recruit a couple of decent wingers. Every year Leicester get someone in on loan and it doesn't work out looking for another Mahrez. The exception was Lookman but no agreement was struck and he has gone on to do very well in Italy. I'm pretty sure Newcastle will have a punt with Barnes just waiting to see what sort of derisory offer they start with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 This Newcastle FFP stuff reminds me of being a kid on football manager. I’d add another manager and sell Ryan Beswick to Chelsea for 70million. Just so I could buy Sylvan Evans Blake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 There are new rules in place that prevent sales between owned clubs who can play in the same competition so we are no longer able to sell or buy from leuven I could argue that the fifa club World championship means that every club is potentially able to play another at some point so that should mean no owned clubs can trade globally. But then they’ll just get around it to some degree via loans ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 He'd tear the Champ up. Shame to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 15 hours ago, UniFox21 said: Might as well just give up at this point. If this is allowed top flight football is done We should definitely try and get a premium in Barnes if they're pulling this manoeuvre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverfox Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 The fact the club have publicly said they would listen to offers for him.suggests to me that the need the money to finance other invomings. The need to raise funds and free up his wages plus he's obviously set to play at a Level lower than his ability, leaves us with very few cards when it comes to negotiating a good price. Buying clubs will know out position and will.only pay what they think he's worth to them, and that may be a lot lower than we as fans think he's worth. I think £30m bid will eventually see him leave preferably sooner rather than later so we can finance other incomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 2 hours ago, les-tah said: This whole saudi money laundering thing is too wide scale now and they wont do anything about it. Better off scrapping FFP and just letting every team go wild and just have a quota on english players that teams will need to fulfil. I feel the same about drugs in athletics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 29 minutes ago, st albans fox said: There are new rules in place that prevent sales between owned clubs who can play in the same competition so we are no longer able to sell or buy from leuven I could argue that the fifa club World championship means that every club is potentially able to play another at some point so that should mean no owned clubs can trade globally. But then they’ll just get around it to some degree via loans ???? Have they actually changed the rules yet? The only main rule I am aware of is regarding same owned clubs not being allowed to play in Europe together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 6 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Have they actually changed the rules yet? The only main rule I am aware of is regarding same owned clubs not being allowed to play in Europe together Talk sport said it this morning. appreciate that makes it less likely to be true😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 3 hours ago, lgfualol said: Funny to watch Newcastle pretend to be a normal club that cares about ffp. I love the way Pep tells us Man City haven't bid for a player because they can't afford it. Then pundits say how wisely they spend money. Cue £100m Grealish Transfer and 800k a week wages for Haaland. Dyche was probably the best when he finally splashed the cash a bit with Burnley. It was like his bald head couldn't compute he's now spent pound notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jattdogg Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 5 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: Then when the final face-to-face meeting takes place, it's the same person moving from one side of the desk to the other, putting a hat on then taking it off, to hammer out the last details. Half and half shirts? Lol When they allowed big clubs to take the piss is when it really started. Manure and them lot are all a bunch of fuchin fake plastic cheating cvnts. Newcastle is just the new boy on the block. Nobody in power will make a real decision because their getting kickbacks or foreign government/big companies will have direct talks to uk about political stuff, oil, mcdonalds (lol), military or whatever and they will just turn a blind eye. Football is dead folks, we are just a bunch of chumps really hoping for another Leicester miracle. It's best the top X fuch off so we can all go back to enjoying football again even if we arent in the top flight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_LCFC14 Posted 19 July 2023 Share Posted 19 July 2023 I hope we keep in mind how much they fleeced us for Perez, when negotiating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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