Muzzy_no7 Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 League is absolutely bonkers this year. Even more so than when we won it. Everton are dog turd and yet should be 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 There it is... 🟡⚫ Brentford given the game away tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 2 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Everton are dog turd and yet should be 8th. I hope they get another 10 points for a frivolous appeal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 City turned it around ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 2 minutes ago, Super_horns said: City turned it around ? Seems that way. Everton are literally huff and puff with a bit of luck thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 City always seem to that....come back after being a goal down 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 Another handball filed in the "what is he supposed to do" category although can see why its given with the way the rules are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 I didn't realise Brentford is now called the G-tech Stadium. They certainly sucked that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 Probably more intent to hurt someone in that tackle from Tarkowski then a lot of the red cards we see these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 Pickford you dippy ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 Shine a light that was a cock up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 Brilliant finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe90lcfc Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 Man City are the best team in the league i would be shocked if they don’t win the league again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 Foden has looked world class this second half. Full of confidence and sublime on the ball. I’ve watched Rodri closely tonight too. He is an exceptional player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 Man City have been terrible for weeks and are only 2 points off the top if they win their game in hand. Hard not to see them winning the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe90lcfc Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 26 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Foden has looked world class this second half. Full of confidence and sublime on the ball. I’ve watched Rodri closely tonight too. He is an exceptional player. Very true you could also chuck silva and even walker into that hat to tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 27 December 2023 Share Posted 27 December 2023 2 hours ago, RowlattsFox said: Another handball filed in the "what is he supposed to do" category although can see why its given with the way the rules are. But then you see the Rodri one and wonder what’s going on with that! For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s ‘corruption’ which is seemingly the buzz word for every fan on social media right now. But it is certainly incompetence! I wonder if they’d do better with VAR if they DIDN’T use referees - because whenever I’ve heard the audio it feels the operators are much more clued in than the referees sat on their backside! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 28 December 2023 Share Posted 28 December 2023 11 hours ago, RowlattsFox said: Another handball filed in the "what is he supposed to do" category although can see why its given with the way the rules are. Wilf would give one of those away every other week last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 28 December 2023 Share Posted 28 December 2023 9 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: But then you see the Rodri one and wonder what’s going on with that! For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s ‘corruption’ which is seemingly the buzz word for every fan on social media right now. But it is certainly incompetence! I wonder if they’d do better with VAR if they DIDN’T use referees - because whenever I’ve heard the audio it feels the operators are much more clued in than the referees sat on their backside! I think you're spot on with incompetence, but I think it's caused by how complex and convoluted the handball rule is. There are so many sub rules and caveats that do make it difficult to interpret. Especially at the speed of professional football. Obviously that doesn't allow for VAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 28 December 2023 Share Posted 28 December 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, UniFox21 said: I think you're spot on with incompetence, but I think it's caused by how complex and convoluted the handball rule is. There are so many sub rules and caveats that do make it difficult to interpret. Especially at the speed of professional football. Obviously that doesn't allow for VAR It's pretty simple checklist IMO. 1. Is the arm away from the body or not? 2. Was it hit at them too close to react and move the arm out of the way? 3. Did it come off another body part and on to the arm? The issue is they are ignoring those last two rules and making the arm position the be all and end all. The pre-season directive was if it came off another body part first that it shouldn't be given. They've already ignored that. If it is hit from really close it should be ignored. They've also ignored that. What they have done is if the arm looks in a natural position close to the body they've ignored any contact with the arm/hand and then not given them. Even from shots hit from a good distance away. They've totally enshrined the handball rule around arm positioning, which is then held above all the other rules. It's the Premier League and PGMOL standard arrogance of ignoring FIFA directives, over-emphasising one aspect of the rules and not letting VAR get to the correct decision, whilst confusing players, managers and fans alike. Edited 28 December 2023 by The Bear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 28 December 2023 Share Posted 28 December 2023 (edited) 2 handballs given in the Hearts v Hibs game . Probably getting to the point where any are given . https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/13038443/hibernian-0-1-hearts-scottish-premiership-highlights Edited 28 December 2023 by Super_horns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 28 December 2023 Share Posted 28 December 2023 Just another reminder how out of touch the Prem is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 28 December 2023 Share Posted 28 December 2023 5 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Just another reminder how out of touch the Prem is Such a weird way to write that as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 28 December 2023 Share Posted 28 December 2023 23 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Such a weird way to write that as well! Especially when the games around Christmas Day would have been available to stream via Amazon, and not Now Tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 28 December 2023 Share Posted 28 December 2023 3 hours ago, The Bear said: It's pretty simple checklist IMO. 1. Is the arm away from the body or not? 2. Was it hit at them too close to react and move the arm out of the way? 3. Did it come off another body part and on to the arm? The issue is they are ignoring those last two rules and making the arm position the be all and end all. The pre-season directive was if it came off another body part first that it shouldn't be given. They've already ignored that. If it is hit from really close it should be ignored. They've also ignored that. What they have done is if the arm looks in a natural position close to the body they've ignored any contact with the arm/hand and then not given them. Even from shots hit from a good distance away. They've totally enshrined the handball rule around arm positioning, which is then held above all the other rules. It's the Premier League and PGMOL standard arrogance of ignoring FIFA directives, over-emphasising one aspect of the rules and not letting VAR get to the correct decision, whilst confusing players, managers and fans alike. I agree on your last point; the ruling at least in England has become basically centred on the concept of "natural arm position". We're now so caught up on where the arm was when the ball has hit it that we forget common sense. At least in the previous few years we have taken note of ricochets either off of yourself or another player onto the arm. In regards to "too close to you to react", we seem to be getting better at that, however the likes of the penalty for Man City yesterday I have to agree with. Doucoure (i think) when sliding in with his arm up, and it subsequently blocks the flight of the ball - I'd have that as handball. But overall, we've convoluted the rulings way too much - it needs to be re-simplified and sorted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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