Bert Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 31 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said: I don’t quite get this exchange. If Toney took out the defender (which IMO he did) then whether he was or was not offside is surely irrelevant ? He’s used his strength and intelligence, it’s certainly not a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 2 minutes ago, Finnegan said: To be clear, he didn't wrestle the defender out of the way, it wasn't a foul in its own right. I don't particularly mind what Toney did, it was extremely trivial obstruction at worst. But if he'd have touched the ball then Maupay would have been offside. I wasn't properly paying attention to the fact the punt forward was a goal kick when I watched it and probably should have watched it again before posting anything Yeah, I get the offside bit IMy observation was that Toney did barge the defender out of the way but have only seen it once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 21 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said: Yeah, I get the offside bit IMy observation was that Toney did barge the defender out of the way but have only seen it once I definitely advise you watch it again Flekken had a good game by the looks of it, very good save from De Bruyne. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 1 hour ago, Finnegan said: To be clear, he didn't wrestle the defender out of the way, it wasn't a foul in its own right. I don't particularly mind what Toney did, it was extremely trivial obstruction at worst. But if he'd have touched the ball then Maupay would have been offside. I wasn't properly paying attention to the fact the punt forward was a goal kick when I watched it and probably should have watched it again before posting anything Tbf it’s not often you see a long goal kick these days . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 21 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Tbf it’s not often you see a long goal kick these days . Brian Deane and Paul Dickov would have loved playing against a team that pushes up like that on goal kicks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 3 hours ago, fox_up_north said: Through work friends, I gather the top top academies are making efforts to let the kids know there's a 1 in a million chance they make it and push the education side. But below that, many are still selling dreams that would never come true. I think for most players now probably know the club they are growing up with wont be the club they make it to becoming a first teamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzFOX Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February How many folks are missing being in the premier league? Yes I know we all want to be playing at top level and the club needs to be up there but I’m certainly not missing VAR and all the constant controversy every game, the stop/start nonsense etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 38 minutes ago, cruzFOX said: How many folks are missing being in the premier league? Yes I know we all want to be playing at top level and the club needs to be up there but I’m certainly not missing VAR and all the constant controversy every game, the stop/start nonsense etc. Missing it like a hole in the head!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February 2 hours ago, Matt said: The 4% are probably the most important ones .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February 42 minutes ago, Super_horns said: The 4% are probably the most important ones .. Well VAR is only looking at important decisions, if more of them are correct post-VAR (and a reasonably substantial amount more) than pre-VAR then it's doing what it's intended to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February (edited) 3 hours ago, Mark_w said: Well VAR is only looking at important decisions, if more of them are correct post-VAR (and a reasonably substantial amount more) than pre-VAR then it's doing what it's intended to do. Not sure people would say it is which is the trouble! Soon be something else for refs to deal with and “get wrong” Cue endless debates about what is a “blue card “ and what isn’t. Particularly when it comes to fouls Edited 8 February by Super_horns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February Absolute codswallop. Just another way to give the big teams more decisions their way and make sure they win more often. Wish they'd just leave the major rules of the game alone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February do you get a yellow and a blue? or just the blue. Players are going to be diving on the halfway line now ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February 9 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: do you get a yellow and a blue? or just the blue. Players are going to be diving on the halfway line now ffs What they need is a green card in-between a yellow and a blue... not a lime green colour, more your British racing green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February Works well in rugby as being a man down massively benefits the opposition. We're just going to see 10 minutes of one team sat behind the ball. Can't wait till some shite ref blue cards half a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February 27 minutes ago, The Bear said: Absolute codswallop. Just another way to give the big teams more decisions their way and make sure they win more often. Wish they'd just leave the major rules of the game alone. I actually think it hurts bigger teams. The sides that love to camp in the opposition half because they've always got the back up of just fouling the counter attacking player will not like this new rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February The biggest issue I have with var is how long it takes. Sometimes 3+ minutes for something that’s so obvious, completely ruins the flow of the game, most fans I imagine would take a 5% drop in correct decisions for the benefit of a free flowing game, it’s horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February (edited) 10 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: The biggest issue I have with var is how long it takes. Sometimes 3+ minutes for something that’s so obvious, completely ruins the flow of the game, most fans I imagine would take a 5% drop in correct decisions for the benefit of a free flowing game, it’s horrendous. Not sure they would in the heat of the moment though. If a decision goes against their team they won’t like it no matter how long it takes or if there is VAR at all. Football is too tribal for that I feel . And VAR has made it worse really as inconsistency is shown up even more . Edited 8 February by Super_horns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February I can get on board for sin bins for dissent. Everything else is just another grey area open to interpretation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February 1 hour ago, Super_horns said: Not sure people would say it is which is the trouble! Soon be something else for refs to deal with and “get wrong” Cue endless debates about what is a “blue card “ and what isn’t. Particularly when it comes to fouls They should concentrate on getting VAR right before doing anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February I’m not convinced that most referees at PL level know how to tie their shoelaces or put their underpants on the right way Giving them extra powers and decision making responsibilities makes me shudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February I just wish they would stop messing about with the game. Leave it alone ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkisnorbo Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February It was basically perfect. Just leave it alone for the love of god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 8 February Share Posted 8 February 31 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: They should concentrate on getting VAR right before doing anything else. As in not use for subjective decisions that no-one can agree on and differ from ref to ref game by game? With VAR people expected perfection and for every decision to be the same each week and for all the refs to be align in their thinking. Be the same here. You'd soon get people saying well that was a harsh blue card or why wasn't that player given one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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