Dan LCFC Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 O'Neil will get a touchline ban if he has the audacity to tell the truth as well. It's all such a rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 I don't want Dermot Gallager on Sky Sports every Monday defending his mates. I don't want Howard Webb telling me how difficult it is. I don't want a ref fvcking up that much thay he gets relegated to the football league, because that's not a punishment, he'll just fvck up a football league game. I'd like honest answers of how they've seen it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 VAR is corrupt to it's core. Sick of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritwalker Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 25 minutes of analysis and no mention of the penalty decision. Maybe it never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 Did anyone watch Soccer Saturday on Sky this Saturday? They've employed Mike Dean to give his reaction and if decisions are correct. He didn't have a fvcking clue. "Ermmmmm, well...." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 If any other player on the pitch, apart from a goalkeeper, makes that challenge on anyone, it's a red card for violent conduct. I don't care if you can use your arms as a goalkeeper, that's reckless and a penalty at least. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 I wonder if anyone thinks it isn’t a penalty I doubt they do but it’s one of those where people say it isn’t a howler so it’s not an overturn of the on field call. But if 100/100 people think it’s a pen then surely not to give it is a howler ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspa Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 (edited) This and the Liverpool home game back to back when we were flying pre-COVID made for the dodgiest week we'd ever had in the Prem. Edited 14 August 2023 by Jaspa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I wonder if anyone thinks it isn’t a penalty I doubt they do but it’s one of those where people say it isn’t a howler so it’s not an overturn of the on field call. But if 100/100 people think it’s a pen then surely not to give it is a howler ???? Absolutely. It’s a foul by a centre back on a striker, it’s a foul if it’s a defenders foot on a strikers leg. Regardless whether he got his header away. If a player is coming at you with no control, you can’t play the ball as you would normally. Absolute farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 Just now, Jaspa said: This and the Liverpool home game back to back when we were flying pre-COVID made for the dodgiest week we'd even had in the Prem. That's the one. Way worse than the Barnes one with Ederson. He's actually assaulted him, but because he's a keeper, it's OK. Keepers are the most protected players on the pitch, why? They have the advantage. As much as we all hate Everton, that disallowed goal on Saturday was bullshit. They're protected so much, but they can assault people???? Sorry, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 (edited) VAR isn't to blame - it's the people using it who are either incompetent or have the wrong motivations, whether that's being overly concerned about fan reaction and/or they don't want to give a decision that suggests the referee made a mistake so they get similar backing when they make a mistake if they referee a match. Have a separate team doing VAR vs those who referee the games and you'll see standards improve for sure. But the PL don't care - they love the controversy and their big franchises/brands continue to do well. It's rotten to the core. Edited 14 August 2023 by lcfc_forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 I'm going to change the subject, Karen Carney looks pretty good tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 18 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said: 25 minutes of analysis and no mention of the penalty decision. Maybe it never happened. No thought that. Had it been a big team playing Man U would have been loads . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 It's that clear and obvious error bollocks again. Complete joke and allow the refs to get away with making a shit decision. The Premier league honestly makes me sick now. Disgusting how it is ran and the same sides benefit each week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 Just now, tom27111 said: I'm going to change the subject, Karen Carney looks pretty good tonight Yeah not bad. Certainly after a few 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 It is the arbitrary high bar that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerleeds Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 Originally thought it was a travesty that wasn't given, but I remembered it's only Wolves so it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 The one thing we really need to ask is why isn't the dialogue between ref and VAR audible? It is in any other sport. Play it on the big screen like cricket, let's hear it like they do in rugby..."take it back again, and again...the other angle" Make it transparent, then we might understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller Wing Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 4 minutes ago, Super_horns said: No thought that. Had it been a big team playing Man U would have been loads . Klopp would have been great entertainment tonight, if that went against his lot😄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 If your not in the big 6 in that league it's a complete pointless exercise. VAR is no use and you can't spend any money because of FFP yet chelsea have spent about 800 million in a season. Whole thing is a farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 Just now, adam said: If your not in the big 6 in that league it's a complete pointless exercise. VAR is no use and you can't spend any money because of FFP yet chelsea have spent about 800 million in a season. Whole thing is a farce. It did give Chilwell offside by 2 millimetres in the FA Cup final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guesty Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 This is the exact situation where VAR fails. I saw an interview with Webb and he said as much as possible they will stick with on field decisions. Mainly cause they don't want to re-ref the game and because people were complaining about too many VAR stoppages. I assume the VAR guy has said: did you see it and the ref has said yes, so he can't overrule him. But the whole reason I originally thought VAR was made was for decisions like this. Where a ref is too intimidated (or just missed) a big decision in the heat of the moment - so he gets another clearer look at important decisions. But with this new implementation it doesn't fix that at all. I'd like to hear the conversations between VAR. Webb said he'd like that too but FIFA or UEFA won't allow it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 1 minute ago, Guesty said: This is the exact situation where VAR fails. I saw an interview with Webb and he said as much as possible they will stick with on field decisions. Mainly cause they don't want to re-ref the game and because people were complaining about too many VAR stoppages. I assume the VAR guy has said: did you see it and the ref has said yes, so he can't overrule him. But the whole reason I originally thought VAR was made was for decisions like this. Where a ref is too intimidated (or just missed) a big decision in the heat of the moment - so he gets another clearer look at important decisions. But with this new implementation it doesn't fix that at all. I'd like to hear the conversations between VAR. Webb said he'd like that too but FIFA or UEFA won't allow it. That all falls apart though when no doubt about it in the next couple of weeks VAR will get involved in the softest of decisions and award one of the bigger sides a ridiculous decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 Just now, adam said: That all falls apart though when no doubt about it in the next couple of weeks VAR will get involved in the softest of decisions and award one of the bigger sides a ridiculous decision. Let us hear it then. The commentators hear it, why can't we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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