Super_horns Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 1 minute ago, adam said: That all falls apart though when no doubt about it in the next couple of weeks VAR will get involved in the softest of decisions and award one of the bigger sides a ridiculous decision. Or there is a penalty given just for that sort of incident showing up the inconsistency of the officials. Apparently the guy on VAR was the same one as who did the infamous Spurs v Brighton game last season . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Bear Posted 14 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 14 August 2023 You can't make this shit up, but apparently PGMOL have spoken to O’Neil already and have apologised Yeah thanks lads. Maybe you should give everyone a loyalty card and every 5 apologies we get 3 points. I hope O'Neil told them to stick it up their arse. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 5 minutes ago, The Bear said: You can't make this shit up, but apparently PGMOL have spoken to O’Neil already and have apologised Yeah thanks lads. Maybe you should give everyone a loyalty card and every 5 apologies we get 3 points. I hope O'Neil told them to stick it up their arse. Not the first time they've apologised. Far from it. MAKE THE VAR DISCUSSIONS AVAILABLE TO FANS!!!!! The commentators always say "we're hearing what's happening..." Be transparent. If we hear the reasoning, we might understand. I honestly don't believe it's biased to the big clubs, I just think it's incompetent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 So glad we haven’t got var this season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 It's all right having the funny tweets about it from the football banter accounts and us lot all talking about it but when will someone with some clout in football put their head above the parapet and call it out for what it is? These decisions are basic, run of the mill, if they can't get them right they are incompetent and if they are not incompetent they are corrupt. So which is it and why will heads not roll? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 Pathetic When will they realise apologies mean absolutely fvck all in the grand scheme of things. It doesn't give Wolves the penalty chance. I suspect the VAR official tonight will be off duty for next weekend, but back to normal for the following week... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 13 minutes ago, The Bear said: You can't make this shit up, but apparently PGMOL have spoken to O’Neil already and have apologised Yeah thanks lads. Maybe you should give everyone a loyalty card and every 5 apologies we get 3 points. I hope O'Neil told them to stick it up their arse. Makes you wonder what these refs see. Now that VAR ref won’t be trusted by anyone . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 Hope they release the VAR discussion on this decision. They did it last year for some decisions. This is the perfect example to get the officials perspective and publish just how wrong they got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Hope they release the VAR discussion on this decision. They did it last year for some decisions. This is the perfect example to get the officials perspective and publish just how wrong they got it. But why release it afterwards? Let us hear the reasoning. Nobody is perfect, we should all understand that, some decisions are stupidly hard, some aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 Just now, tom27111 said: But why release it afterwards? Let us hear the reasoning. Nobody is perfect, we should all understand that, some decisions are stupidly hard, some aren't. Oh I agree. I'd love to hear all VAR decisions as they happen. I may not agree with it, but the clarity will help. Right now we're all thinking what the fvck are they playing at. At least with the releasing of the conversation we can think it with even more vigour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 We’ll see how serious Howard Webb is over VAR changes or if this will be swept under the carpet with an apology and normal service resumes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Oh I agree. I'd love to hear all VAR decisions as they happen. I may not agree with it, but the clarity will help. Right now we're all thinking what the fvck are they playing at. At least with the releasing of the conversation we can think it with even more vigour We'd be better off with a couple of rugby TMO's who've had a crash course in football rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 14 August 2023 Share Posted 14 August 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tuna said: It's all right having the funny tweets about it from the football banter accounts and us lot all talking about it but when will someone with some clout in football put their head above the parapet and call it out for what it is? These decisions are basic, run of the mill, if they can't get them right they are incompetent and if they are not incompetent they are corrupt. So which is it and why will heads not roll? I can only assume it's because they're so well paid in their positions that they don't really want to rock the boat or bite the hand that feeds them per se. I firmly believe that the rules are so much down to interpretation and can be spun whichever way to suit the desired outcome. I saw somebody earlier in this thread post how Argentina got one for far less - that was another example of it. The Messi World Cup narrative took precedence. That tonight was everything wrong with this league and the sport in general. Edited 14 August 2023 by Dan LCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: I can only assume it's because they're so well paid in their positions that they don't really want to rock the boat or bite the hand that feeds them per se. I firmly believe that the rules are so much down to interpretation and can be spun whichever way to suit the desired outcome. I saw somebody earlier in this thread post how Argentina got one for far less - that was another example of it. The Messi World Cup narrative took precedence. That tonight was everything wrong with this league and the sport in general. VAR, or refereeing decisions in general, should be overseen by an independent panel that is a non-profit making business. Possibly made up of a panel of ex-players and judges. They should scrutinise every single decision and have the power to sack people for making the wrong decision without a proper explanation. And those on pitch decisions should be made public to everyone, in real time, including the crowd in the stadium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 It’s not incompetence, it’s corruption, it has been for years and years now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, tom27111 said: VAR, or refereeing decisions in general, should be overseen by an independent panel that is a non-profit making business. Possibly made up of a panel of ex-players and judges. They should scrutinise every single decision and have the power to sack people for making the wrong decision without a proper explanation. Bit late to do that for the team affected though really but yes hearing what is said might be useful and if people get upset a few swear words are heard then book the players involved or have the mics away from the crowd. Ex players keep saying lets have them involved but then never seem to put their hand up to offer or set up a group to try and get involved? Maybe some of them are too comfortable in their jobs too? Easier to look in from the outside than have a go themselves. Apparently Jamie Carragher thought it was the right decision anyway! Edited 15 August 2023 by Super_horns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 9 hours ago, tom27111 said: Says the guy infatuated with the snooker ref. Back me up here @Raj Let me think...Rihanna or the snooker ref??? 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 So essentially FOUR* experienced referees had an adequate view of that… two of which watched a replay and still they didn’t manage to come to the correct decision. It’s bordering on legitimised match fixing. *assuming my numbers are correct with who’s in the VAR room and that the assistant could see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copunk Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 Woke up still confused how on earth it's not a penalty 😂 The worst that should have happened is they send him over to have a look Will hold my hands up and say I thought wolves were going to get hammered last night but I was beyond impressed, feel they were outstanding all over the pitch Just obviously not finishing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 2 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said: It’s not incompetence, it’s corruption, it has been for years and years now. Depressingly true. You could, for example, go as far back as the O'Neill era when we had both that infamous match v Atletico at Filbert St and, more relevant to the current discussion, the Izzet penalty at OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 9 hours ago, StanSP said: Pathetic When will they realise apologies mean absolutely fvck all in the grand scheme of things. It doesn't give Wolves the penalty chance. I suspect the VAR official tonight will be off duty for next weekend, but back to normal for the following week... this is why VAR is just a farce. It was introduced to remove human error, yet all it is doing is just further documenting human error, and makes refs come out and apologise afterwards….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 2 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said: It’s not incompetence, it’s corruption, it has been for years and years now. Nah it is incompetence, this group of referees are terrible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Lionator said: Nah it is incompetence, this group of referees are terrible. If it was it would have been sorted out years ago, it's allowed to go on and on. EDIT: I should add I'm not just talking about one single decision, I'm talking about the whole process of how refs are protected, rules are made to put it down to interpretation, there's so many variables they deliberately add to cloud the whole system, corrupt. Edited 15 August 2023 by Leicester_Loyal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 15 August 2023 Share Posted 15 August 2023 The first fan I work with decided to suggest I couldn’t talk about premier league football with him…. I ****ing hope more than anything those horrible ***** go down this season. That club needs ruining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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