Trav Le Bleu Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 5 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Has has it been a poor league this season? 4 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: I wouldn’t say so it’s just our quality and Southampton / Leeds and also Ipswich is just far better than this level, and the results show it. As someone else said elsewhere (sorry I forget who, but it was a good point), the teams that came down really shouldn't have... They had good players, but bad management. Come down, kept most of their players, fresh start... Boom! They're playing like the mid-table Premier League teams they should have been last season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 5 hours ago, Happy Fox said: If you were a Ipswich fan pre season you would have taken 4th spot behind the relegated teams from the premier league. The job Kieran McKenna has done there is really commendable. I thought they'd do well, but not this well. I thought they'd be like what Bournemouth were the last time we were in the championship. They were a newly promoted side that finished just outside the play-offs playing good football under a young manager but you could see that they were a club on the up that looked like they were on the up. I think Ipswich will finish on 90+ points this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 2 hours ago, Lionator said: QPR and Sunderland should be nailed on wins at this point. If we can win every game up until the Leeds game too, then that takes the pressure off massively. I don’t think Sunderland away will be nailed on, I think they will hit a bit of form 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxysausages Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 8 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: I don’t think Sunderland away will be nailed on, I think they will hit a bit of form Have you SEEN Michael Beale recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 39 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Has has it been a poor league this season? I'd argue its the strongest its been in ages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 4 minutes ago, Langston said: I'd argue its the strongest its been in ages. Certainly the strongest it's been at the top. Some very poor sides at the bottom though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 1 hour ago, BenTheFox said: Leeds have a very favourable run-in. Apart from Coventry their remaining games against the top 8 are all at home where they have been formidable. If we can get a point at Leeds it would be big. A win would be enormous. In order for Leeds to hit 100 points they'd need to go unbeaten for the rest of the season and win 12. I can actually see them winning 12 of their remaining games, but they may come a cropper in one or two games. Southampton still have to play West Brom, Ipswich, Leicester and Leeds away from home but their recent form has been outstanding. When I've watched then recently they've looked recently they've looked the complete package. I'm not ruling Ipswich out just yet. If they fail to beat West Brom at the weekend then I think it's going to be difficult for them. One thing I'm certain of is that the 90 points, which is the normal guarantee of promotion will not be enough this season. I think that all of the top four will reach that. I think it will take a minimum of 95 points. 95 point only see us need 1.43 pts per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajthefox Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 20 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: Certainly the strongest it's been at the top. Some very poor sides at the bottom though. That's what I was thinking. Same points available between all teams each season, so if the top 3/4 are all on big points, then that means collectively the rest of the league are worse off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 12 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: 95 point only see us need 1.43 pts per game. I'm aware. I think that's the bare minimum we will need though. Wouldn't be surprised if we need more. It's a bit sickening when you consider that Hull were promoted on 79 points in 2013 and West Brom were promoted on 80 points in 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 9 minutes ago, ajthefox said: That's what I was thinking. Same points available between all teams each season, so if the top 3/4 are all on big points, then that means collectively the rest of the league are worse off. I swear you saw far more shocks last time we were in the championship. In that season we lost away at Doncaster, drew at home against Yeovil, lost away at Charlton and drew away at Blackpool, all of whom finished in the bottom six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 1 hour ago, BenTheFox said: I thought they'd do well, but not this well. I thought they'd be like what Bournemouth were the last time we were in the championship. They were a newly promoted side that finished just outside the play-offs playing good football under a young manager but you could see that they were a club on the up that looked like they were on the up. I think Ipswich will finish on 90+ points this season. I still reckon will get promoted with us… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 5 February Share Posted 5 February 23 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: I swear you saw far more shocks last time we were in the championship. In that season we lost away at Doncaster, drew at home against Yeovil, lost away at Charlton and drew away at Blackpool, all of whom finished in the bottom six. The standard is dreadful this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 3 hours ago, BenTheFox said: Certainly the strongest it's been at the top. Some very poor sides at the bottom though. It's an obvious thing to say but sides at the bottom have never been particularly good though? In ourselves, Southampton, Leeds and Ipswich you have four phenomenal sides at this level. The rung below you have Hull, WBA, Cov, Sunderland, Norwich who are all very capable, borderline good. Even in the midtable pack there are players like Whittaker, Smzodics, Stansfield, Azaz who are all pretty handy. 3 hours ago, BenTheFox said: I swear you saw far more shocks last time we were in the championship. In that season we lost away at Doncaster, drew at home against Yeovil, lost away at Charlton and drew away at Blackpool, all of whom finished in the bottom six. There are plenty of examples this season of sides at the bottom of the table taking points off the sides at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillippaT Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 7 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said: As someone else said elsewhere (sorry I forget who, but it was a good point), the teams that came down really shouldn't have... They had good players, but bad management. Come down, kept most of their players, fresh start... Boom! They're playing like the mid-table Premier League teams they should have been last season. I think the big difference this year, is that not only have the teams that came down done better at sorting themselves out, but the teams that went up aren't too great either. There have been few clubs that have escaped the yo-yo by staying up - mainly they stay down (Huddersfield/Cardiff/Watford/Norwich etc.), with clubs like Burnley/Sheffield Utd/Fulham being part of the yo-yo over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sly Posted 6 February Author Popular Post Share Posted 6 February (edited) The top 4 are making a mockery of this being the “toughest league in the world”. Saying that, we are going to see some major point swings at some points. Week Leicester Southampton Leeds Ipswich 30 Huddlesfield West Brom 31 Watford Bristol Rotherham Millwall 32 Sheffield Wed West Brom Swansea Swansea 33 Boro Hull Plymouth Rotherham 34 Leeds Millwall Leicester Birmingham 35 QPR Birmingham Huddlesfield Plymouth 36 Sunderland Preston Stoke Bristol 37 Hull Sunderland Sheffield Wed Cardiff 38 Southampton Leicester Millwall Sheffield Wed 39 Bristol Middlesborough Watford Blackburn 40 Norwich Ipswich Hull Southampton 41 Birmingham Blackburn Coventry Norwich 42 Millwall Coventry Sunderland Watford 43 Plymouth Watford Blackburn Boro 44 West Brom Cardiff Boro Coventry 45 Preston Stoke QPR Hull 46 Blackburn Leeds Southampton Huddlesfield To put it into context on the run ins, based on the remaining fixtures, the average team place each club needs to play is: Leicester - 12th Southampton - 11th Leeds - 14th Ipswich - 14th Edited 6 February by Sly 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 11 hours ago, Sly said: The top 4 are making a mockery of this being the “toughest league in the world”. Saying that, we are going to see some major point swings at some points. Week Leicester Southampton Leeds Ipswich 30 Huddlesfield West Brom 31 Watford Bristol Rotherham Millwall 32 Sheffield Wed West Brom Swansea Swansea 33 Boro Hull Plymouth Rotherham 34 Leeds Millwall Leicester Birmingham 35 QPR Birmingham Huddlesfield Plymouth 36 Sunderland Preston Stoke Bristol 37 Hull Sunderland Sheffield Wed Cardiff 38 Southampton Leicester Millwall Sheffield Wed 39 Bristol Middlesborough Watford Blackburn 40 Norwich Ipswich Hull Southampton 41 Birmingham Blackburn Coventry Norwich 42 Millwall Coventry Sunderland Watford 43 Plymouth Watford Blackburn Boro 44 West Brom Cardiff Boro Coventry 45 Preston Stoke QPR Hull 46 Blackburn Leeds Southampton Huddlesfield To put it into context on the run ins, based on the remaining fixtures, the average team place each club needs to play is: Leicester - 12th Southampton - 11th Leeds - 14th Ipswich - 14th I can see the gap closing between us and Southampton for matches 30-38 and then us pulling away again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noahfence Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February Win our remaining 8 home games = 96 points. You have to say how comfortable we’ve been at home recently there’s a possibility. Throw in 8 away wins too why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 13 hours ago, Sly said: The top 4 are making a mockery of this being the “toughest league in the world”. Saying that, we are going to see some major point swings at some points. Week Leicester Southampton Leeds Ipswich 30 Huddlesfield West Brom 31 Watford Bristol Rotherham Millwall 32 Sheffield Wed West Brom Swansea Swansea 33 Boro Hull Plymouth Rotherham 34 Leeds Millwall Leicester Birmingham 35 QPR Birmingham Huddlesfield Plymouth 36 Sunderland Preston Stoke Bristol 37 Hull Sunderland Sheffield Wed Cardiff 38 Southampton Leicester Millwall Sheffield Wed 39 Bristol Middlesborough Watford Blackburn 40 Norwich Ipswich Hull Southampton 41 Birmingham Blackburn Coventry Norwich 42 Millwall Coventry Sunderland Watford 43 Plymouth Watford Blackburn Boro 44 West Brom Cardiff Boro Coventry 45 Preston Stoke QPR Hull 46 Blackburn Leeds Southampton Huddlesfield To put it into context on the run ins, based on the remaining fixtures, the average team place each club needs to play is: Leicester - 12th Southampton - 11th Leeds - 14th Ipswich - 14th That 34-38 game cluster for us makes me nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 39 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: That 34-38 game cluster for us makes me nervous. We got 9 points from those 5 earlier in the season, same again and we'd be absolutely fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February imagine making Rudkin look competent... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sol thewall Bamba Posted 6 February Popular Post Share Posted 6 February 9 minutes ago, The Doctor said: imagine making Rudkin look competent... It wouldn't be his fault. Someone else was in charge of clicking the button. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillehamring Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 4 hours ago, BenTheFox said: That 34-38 game cluster for us makes me nervous. But even if, say, we get 2 wins and a draw from hull, qpr, sunderland and lose to southampton and leeds, that's still 1.4 points per game - which amount, even if it was the standard for the entire rest of the season, would still get us to 94 points. In fact even if we take zero points from those five games - to get the 23 points needed to get us to 95 from the other 11 games is still only a fraction over 2 points per game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXSE Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February 1 minute ago, Lillehamring said: But even if, say, we get 2 wins and a draw from hull, qpr, sunderland and lose to southampton and leeds, that's still 1.4 points per game - which amount, even if it was the standard for the entire rest of the season, would still get us to 94 points. In fact even if we take zero points from those five games - to get the 23 points needed to get us to 95 from the other 11 games is still only a fraction over 2 points per game. 1/11 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February Leeds and Southampton both win their FA Cup replays, extra games for them can only be a bonus for us. I'm convinced they'll both drop points in the next 2/3 games, fingers crossed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 6 February Share Posted 6 February I've not got any sympathy for clubs that can't get a deal over the line on the last day, there's no reason to leave it so long at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts