Foxes Trust Board comment on relegation and the message from the Club’s Chairman

[Freeman's Wharfer]

6 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

We have been promised a Teams meeting while the clubs representatives are in Thailand.

 

What we share will be dependent on the clubs responses.

Thanks for the update on the club’s response.

 

This is also an interesting insight in itself. Committing to a Teams meeting avoids them having to put anything in writing so that the wider fan base can read their answers.

 

Please commit to at least one thing:

tell the club that you will be publishing a summary of the questions asked and their responses on your website.

[filthyfox]

8 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Thanks for the update on the club’s response.

 

This is also an interesting insight in itself. Committing to a Teams meeting avoids them having to put anything in writing so that the wider fan base can read their answers.

 

Please commit to at least one thing:

tell the club that you will be publishing a summary of the questions asked and their responses on your website.

Or , even better.... record it!

[adejo92]

Still find it bizarre how Top feels it's more important to fly the squad off to Thailand to parade them around like animals at a circus than actually having a sensible and productive Pre-Season given the amount of change and the embarrassment of last season.

 

[Matt]

@Foxes_Trust I trust (No pun intended) more questions will need to be asked of the club for our pre-season preparations?

 

Or do I need to email you?

 

 

 

[foxinsocks]

5 hours ago, adejo92 said:

Still find it bizarre how Top feels it's more important to fly the squad off to Thailand to parade them around like animals at a circus than actually having a sensible and productive Pre-Season given the amount of change and the embarrassment of last season.

 

I wonder how impressed Bangkok is with a relegated team?

[inckley fox]

Just a thought, but it seems to me that the Foxes Trust are tiptoeing around because it's so hard to gain access on any meaningful level. Perhaps this - which I'd imagine isn't the Trust's fault - is the reason why many have come to think of them as an irrelevance. They're powerless, because the club don't need them to be empowered and, for a good while, none of us have needed a voice to challenge the club.

 

But, seeing as we do now, might it make sense to lay down their own terms a bit more clearly? If it's clear that they don't purely exist to sip tea and get fobbed off by a receptionist, it could easily become relevant again. In other words, rather than worry about the lack of emails arriving or the lack of members, be proactive in asking those awkward questions, and transparently. Be a voice for the fans, rather than lamenting the lack of interest in what little you have to say (which, as I say, isn't really the Trust's fault). Do the club really want that tersely worded statement that they are now refusing to engage with fan groups? I'd say they could achieve a lot more by being less apologetic, whether it be in strengthening their own hand or opening the door for other fans' groups to speak to the club on new terms. And if they are told to sod off and there's no constructive relationship, then what's changed? Other than that the board would know that their next chat with the fans, if they don't start to get things right, won't be a polite and pointless affair over tea and scones.

[ealingfox]

I see Enzo Maresca must be on the Foxes Trust Board - they'll be untouchable for a good while yet

 

[cityfanlee23]

On 23/07/2023 at 11:32, Matt said:

@Foxes_Trust I trust (No pun intended) more questions will need to be asked of the club for our pre-season preparations?

 

Or do I need to email you?

 

 

 

Smoke signals might work better by the looks of it. 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

On 23/07/2023 at 07:03, adejo92 said:

Still find it bizarre how Top feels it's more important to fly the squad off to Thailand to parade them around like animals at a circus than actually having a sensible and productive Pre-Season given the amount of change and the embarrassment of last season.

 

Oh for goodness sake, it's where we get our money from. Nothing Bizarre about that. Of course, the players are not " animals " but they are commodities and as such are bought and sold numerous times in their careers, I'm sure they don't feel oppressed on god knows how much a week. Football has become pure showbiz, and taking them to the country of the owners to further the club's interest with its massive market is pure business common sense.

[Voll Blau]

1 minute ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Oh for goodness sake, it's where we get our money from. Nothing Bizarre about that. Of course, the players are not " animals " but they are commodities and as such are bought and sold numerous times in their careers, I'm sure they don't feel oppressed on god knows how much a week. Football has become pure showbiz, and taking them to the country of the owners to further the club's interest with its massive market is pure business common sense.

You saw how many people were in the "Leicester end" at Noah's Ark the other day, right? It's time to bust this myth once and for all that Thailand is this huge untapped market of potential Leicester fans. If they aren't interested in us after we pulled off the greatest sporting miracle of all time then they definitely won't be again.

 

Time to stop flogging the dead horse and for the club to focus on building a loyal fanbase in its own postcode area that will throw money at it for life.

[Out Foxed]

42 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

I see Enzo Maresca must be on the Foxes Trust Board - they'll be untouchable for a good while yet

 

struggling to understand the message here :/

[Daggers]

4 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

You saw how many people were in the "Leicester end" at Noah's Ark the other day, right? It's time to bust this myth once and for all that Thailand is this huge untapped market of potential Leicester fans. If they aren't interested in us after we pulled off the greatest sporting miracle of all time then they definitely won't be again.

 

Time to stop flogging the dead horse and for the club to focus on building a loyal fanbase in its own postcode area that will throw money at it for life.

Anyone abroad who is following a team in another nation that they never see in person rather than supporting their local side is a bit odd imo - just look at our collection of Aussies, Scandinavians, Arabs, and whatnots. Weird folk. 
 

But not as weird as them from Coalville. 

[CosbehFox]

Out of interest, does anyone know what the average Thai earns? I know we have a couple of Thai based posters here. 
 

Outsider looking in it doesn’t strike me as a country where local have masses of disposable income compared to say Singapore?

[Sol thewall Bamba]

40 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Oh for goodness sake, it's where we get our money from. Nothing Bizarre about that. Of course, the players are not " animals " but they are commodities and as such are bought and sold numerous times in their careers, I'm sure they don't feel oppressed on god knows how much a week. Football has become pure showbiz, and taking them to the country of the owners to further the club's interest with its massive market is pure business common sense.

 

[Daggers]

3 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

 

 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

11 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

 

We don't get the vast majority of our money from our own fans either so I'm not sure of the point you are making?

[PAPA LAZAROU]

51 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

You saw how many people were in the "Leicester end" at Noah's Ark the other day, right? It's time to bust this myth once and for all that Thailand is this huge untapped market of potential Leicester fans. If they aren't interested in us after we pulled off the greatest sporting miracle of all time then they definitely won't be again.

 

Time to stop flogging the dead horse and for the club to focus on building a loyal fanbase in its own postcode area that will throw money at it for life.

We don't get the majority of our money from the sale of seats from our own fans either. Time to stop flogging this myth that we do.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

15 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

We don't get the vast majority of our money from our own fans either so I'm not sure of the point you are making?

If it was a massive market for us and we were so popular there as we've been told for 10 years, there would be more people there. 

[Wymsey]

If they wish to be 'open', the Foxes Trust should really answer some of the questions in this thread.

 

It's quite disappointing, tbh.

[lfu]

3 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

If they wish to be 'open', the Foxes Trust should really answer some of the questions in this thread.

 

It's quite disappointing, tbh.

They'll answer what they answer
And they'll answer them when they answer them

[PAPA LAZAROU]

2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

If it was a massive market for us and we were so popular there as we've been told for 10 years, there would be more people there. 

The market is in TV revenue the same as it is here. Gate money is neither here nor there when it comes to a club's finances which is why getting relegated is such a financial blow to us. If we had to rely on our paltry 32 thousand gates then we would never be able to buy and pay the fees or wages of most of our team at present.

[messerschmitt]

On 23/07/2023 at 07:03, adejo92 said:

Still find it bizarre how Top feels it's more important to fly the squad off to Thailand to parade them around like animals at a circus than actually having a sensible and productive Pre-Season given the amount of change and the embarrassment of last season.

 

He's probably been told we'll walk the Championship just by turning up.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

27 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

The market is in TV revenue the same as it is here. Gate money is neither here nor there when it comes to a club's finances which is why getting relegated is such a financial blow to us. If we had to rely on our paltry 32 thousand gates then we would never be able to buy and pay the fees or wages of most of our team at present.

I mean that's hardly groundbreaking stuff you've said there but the lack of turnout for the first game in Bangkok for us in however long shows the interest isn't there like we've been told. We'd get the TV money regardless of if we went on a silly ego trip or not.

[PAPA LAZAROU]

3 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I mean that's hardly groundbreaking stuff you've said there but the lack of turnout for the first game in Bangkok for us in however long shows the interest isn't there like we've been told. We'd get the TV money regardless of if we went on a silly ego trip or not.

So are Tottenham and Liverpool out there on a silly ego trip ?

[Gamble92]

8 hours ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Oh for goodness sake, it's where we get our money from. Nothing Bizarre about that. Of course, the players are not " animals " but they are commodities and as such are bought and sold numerous times in their careers, I'm sure they don't feel oppressed on god knows how much a week. Football has become pure showbiz, and taking them to the country of the owners to further the club's interest with its massive market is pure business common sense.

This shouldn't really need saying but i will anyway.

 

Money comes from success. Success is achieved by having a team well prepared for the new season. Getting back in the Premier League gets us the money. By all means fly us out to wherever next summer if we have achieved that.

 

Top has been adamant on showing off this club's past glories (that are very very much in the past now) to whoever will listen in Thailand. Glossing over the fact he has just been at the centre of the most disgraceful relegation in Premier League history. 

This little outing has done nothing but set us back for the new season. Tell me what couldn't have been achieved with this tour by sending out any of Wes, Danny Simpson, Fuchs, Okazaki, Huth, Filbert Fox or the Birch? There's next to no interest in any of the games from a commercial stand point. The weather is ridiculously hot and unplayable because of a monsoon. Even without that 2 games across the world is ridiculously moronic. 

 

This just shows no one can stand up to those that need to hear it at this club. It took a stupendous amount of incompetency to get us where we are. It's just been followed this summer by even more. If you think there is literally one plus point to this tour, then you are proof there are people just as short sighted and unbelievably out of touch as the people running our football club.