StriderHiryu Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 27 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: We've played this a bit - to work down the slice that Norwich get from the Maddison deal. We could have charged Spurs £50m in an exchange deal for Winks but instead we've reduced Norwich's slice, got in Winks. The £40m/£10m is partly for show. I think this is is what's really gone on. We've structured deals to minimise the amount we've had to pay for Norwich. As for the signing, it's OK. He's someone we were linked with even in the top league, so not that much of a surprise to see him here. If we go up and he's a mainstay in the team, he'll turn out to be a good signing. If we struggle and don't, then it won't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stinkenzo Posted 28 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 28 June 2023 10 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: So we've sold Maddison who scored 10 goals and 9 assists last season in a very poor Leicester team for 40m and we're buying Winks who even through was loaned out this year to Samdoria who got relegated he achieved 0 goals and 0 assists for 10m. Beyond belief! It's not as bad as selling Nacho and replacing him with Coady who barely ever scores goals. Give your head a wobble, he's not a like for like replacement 7 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 10 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: So we've sold Maddison who scored 10 goals and 9 assists last season in a very poor Leicester team for 40m and we're buying Winks who even through was loaned out this year to Samdoria who got relegated he achieved 0 goals and 0 assists for 10m. Beyond belief! They are completely different players - Winks is more of a Marty James who was integral in us getting promotion last time, you can’t compare the two. As others have said look at the make up of both deals, only time will tell who gets the better end of the deal here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 4 minutes ago, fox_up_north said: A Spurs fan colleague says Winks is steady and reliable. That suits me fine. He's not here to score and assist, he's here to toughen us up. Sounds like Matt Oakley, without the toughening up bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 7 minutes ago, ian__marshall said: Am I the only person that thinks £10m isn't a bad deal?!? I was initially underwhelmed when the Winks rumours surfaced but the idea has grown on me the past day or so and reckon he'd be decent in Maresca's system. Let's be honest you'd be struggling to sign even a mediocre Championship player for that sort of fee these days so £10m for an average Prem player isn't bad business. He's easily a £20m player, so the way I'm seeing it is that Spurs have actually helped us in terms of not only giving us a cut price deal but also helping us avoid paying a bigger fee to Norwich. Stay positive lads reckon we'll be alright 👍🏼 I'm the same, £10m for him is reasonable to be honest for a player of his energy and quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFCJohn Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 It just makes me wonder what we have to spend. Clearly we need not far off double figures in, possibly into double figures if we lose many on top of those already gone/going. We can’t be spending these sort of fees on many as we have never spent big even when in the Premier League. I guess the answer will be loans. I’d be nice to see some permanent deals of lower outlay for some younger players though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierzz Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 He had a bit of a purple patch in 2020 season and looked a very good No.6 in the premier league. Always been a good progressive passer but sometimes got a bit exposed defensively. A great signing for the championship though and will suit our new anticipated system very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post glenny_fox Posted 28 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 28 June 2023 We really are a panicky bunch aren't we? The £40m for Maddison will be the the guaranteed amount with a further 5-10m in addons, taking it 45-50m, which we were never getting any more than that. The £10m for Winks, will be the very maximum we pay, i'm guessing, on the assumption we get promoted. which doesn't sound like a bad deal to me. People saying both are in the last years of their contracts need to look at the bigger picture. We are in desperate need of a full rebuild and will need to shift players sooner rather than later. Which every other club will already know, meaning our selling power is currently on the floor. Whereas Spurs will not be bothered if they don't sell Winks and he leaves for free next year as the few mil won't make a huge difference. meaning their selling power is a lot higher than ours. The fact we're selling Madders now rather than waiting til the end of the window is massive for us. as it gives us every chance to spend the money on players that will actually help us. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 As has previously been posted, madders is probably £45m + add ons with Winks being £5m, it just suits us better if it's £40m and £10m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 4 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said: It just makes me wonder what we have to spend. Clearly we need not far off double figures in, possibly into double figures if we lose many on top of those already gone/going. We can’t be spending these sort of fees on many as we have never spent big even when in the Premier League. I guess the answer will be loans. I’d be nice to see some permanent deals of lower outlay for some younger players though! According to Tanner and Percy we’ve got the largest budget in the league. So, they’re obviously happy to accept a lower fee for Maddison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaggertvsWise Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 35 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said: 30m and Winks for Maddison, what a ****ing joke we are. They are both in the last year of their contract ffs. The key thing for me is we lose a player with no commitment and gain a player who brings new commitment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 Well I’m happy with this. I think he’s a good player who’s lost his way somewhat thanks to mismanagement. Under a new coach he could be a bargain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVIE B Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 (edited) Do some of our 'fans' not realise we are now in the Championship ? This by definition means we won't attract 'good' Premier league standard players & therefore won't be paying Premium wages. That ship has sailed. Some of the snobbery & thinking we are getting much better players than Winks or Coady, with Prem experience is baffling. Edited 28 June 2023 by STEVIE B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 I think the combined deal just smacks of how everyone apart from the rose tinted glasses wearers just saw Maddison having a 10/10 Spursey season. Push comes to shove, he is Spursey - and that isn’t worth £50m of anyone’s money. The deal for him and Winks just reflects his drop in value as a result. It’s a shame. Oh, and Rudkin out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 You never Know Enzo might bring out the best in Winksey 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 4 Life Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 13 minutes ago, glenny_fox said: We really are a panicky bunch aren't we? The £40m for Maddison will be the the guaranteed amount with a further 5-10m in addons, taking it 45-50m, which we were never getting any more than that. The £10m for Winks, will be the very maximum we pay, i'm guessing, on the assumption we get promoted. which doesn't sound like a bad deal to me. People saying both are in the last years of their contracts need to look at the bigger picture. We are in desperate need of a full rebuild and will need to shift players sooner rather than later. Which every other club will already know, meaning our selling power is currently on the floor. Whereas Spurs will not be bothered if they don't sell Winks and he leaves for free next year as the few mil won't make a huge difference. meaning their selling power is a lot higher than ours. The fact we're selling Madders now rather than waiting til the end of the window is massive for us. as it gives us every chance to spend the money on players that will actually help us. Based on what source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silva Fox Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 Wouldn't have been on my list but we're very much selecting from a different menu now. The main thing for me is that this is (hopefully) part of an overall plan for how Maresca intends to set us up to play and hopefully there are more creative players to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chico1958 Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 29 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: What kind of player is Winks? Maybe my ignorance talking but this just feels like a Praet 2.0 type signing... The Man's won 10 caps for England and comes with a high chance of getting his career going again, It was said in the past, England are still missing a deep lying playmaker, Those wondering who could possibly fill the void have obviously forgotten Winks, who excels at keeping possession with quick, short passes. If Enzo's happy then so am I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ryy Posted 28 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 28 June 2023 Medical later today 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 Just now, Chico1958 said: The Man's won 10 caps for England and comes with a high chance of getting his career going again, It was said in the past, England are still missing a deep lying playmaker, Those wondering who could possibly fill the void have obviously forgotten Winks, who excels at keeping possession with quick, short passes. If Enzo's happy then so am I Under Pearson these types of signings turned out to be key Winks and Coady fit that bracket 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 29 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Not saying he is! Why compare his stats then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copunk Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 Pleased with this Not too long ago he was linked to Man United England international Fair to say he's had a few poor spells but which player hasn't, Maddison went anonymous for about a year not long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 5 minutes ago, Chico1958 said: The Man's won 10 caps for England and comes with a high chance of getting his career going again, It was said in the past, England are still missing a deep lying playmaker, Those wondering who could possibly fill the void have obviously forgotten Winks, who excels at keeping possession with quick, short passes. If Enzo's happy then so am I So he plays a role similar to tielemens under Rodgers. I hope he and others are maresca signings, because I'd hate to think we're buying players for maresca that he doesn't rate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 6 hours ago, Paninistickers said: You've gotta be a certain age for this reference, but I give you Ricky Hill. You mean Rickety Hill… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 28 June 2023 Share Posted 28 June 2023 5 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: Why compare his stats then? I thought this but then assumed maybe he was comparing the prices. That said, using relegation at Sampdoria as a reason 10m is too much is a bit of an odd one too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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