Sunbury Fox Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 3 hours ago, Claridge said: But he has been terrible for years, delighted if he goes to Forest as he weakens them immediately, no where near a prem player now, not seen a worse passer of the ball in the premier league The thing is that Forest don't want midfielders who are slick on the ball. Cooperball is built on having 20% possession and hitting teams on the counter. Wilf will be expected to break up play and nothing more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guesty Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 (edited) I see some people compare his regression to Vardy. But it's more like Van Dijk. Both were great players but got an injury which took an edge off their athleticism. It's only a small percentage, but in their head they still try to play as they did before. Their athleticism always bailed them out and now they're just slightly late to tackles or situations they never used to be. Then the confidence seems to go as they try to come to terms with it. For a player with one year left on his contract and no suitable role in the team this seems like a no brainier. Shame it's Forest as he seems like a nice guy and it makes it harder to root for him. When Kante left I never thought we'd get anything close to replacing him but Ndidi really did for a while. The last two years have been painful to watch though. Edited 28 August 2023 by Guesty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MPH Posted 28 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 28 August 2023 1 hour ago, cityfanlee23 said: To be honest in todays market, 15-20m is not really great business. It will cost us the same to replace him and chances are we will get someone with the same current ability. The difference with Wilf is that we KNOW he can be a £60m midfielder when things fall into place. I'd rather keep him if he is going to be leaving for £15m. He's been far improved this season albeit in a lower level but playing in a position/role that is completely alien to him. I think its a great piece of Business for an out of form player on wages we cant afford who has 1 year left on their contract who players in the championship.. We wont need to directly replace him as he doesn't really suit our style. Even if we do pay 10-15m to replace him, we will be in the championship and his replacement will likely be on half the wages he is on... A does of reality needed, me thinks. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 3 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said: The thing is that Forest don't want midfielders who are slick on the ball. Cooperball is built on having 20% possession and hitting teams on the counter. Wilf will be expected to break up play and nothing more. Forest routinely have halves where they have string just 25-50 passes. Worth repeating; in an entire half. As many as we might in 5 or 10 mins. Wilf will be a huge asset to them and for that reason alone, it's a no from me. There's more to business than just money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Forest routinely have halves where they have string just 25-50 passes. Worth repeating; in an entire half. As many as we might in 5 or 10 mins. Wilf will be a huge asset to them and for that reason alone, it's a no from me. There's more to business than just money. I'd like Forest to stay up purely for selfish reasons. I love a good East Midlands Derby. Besides, he'll probably get injured after 3-4 games anyway Edited 28 August 2023 by MPH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viva Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 1 hour ago, cityfanlee23 said: To be honest in todays market, 15-20m is not really great business. It will cost us the same to replace him and chances are we will get someone with the same current ability. The difference with Wilf is that we KNOW he can be a £60m midfielder when things fall into place. I'd rather keep him if he is going to be leaving for £15m. He's been far improved this season albeit in a lower level but playing in a position/role that is completely alien to him. We have seen nothing like a £60m player for two years. We could get a player to match his ability in the last couple of years for less than £15m, on lower wages and with hopefully a resale value of at least what we paid for him next summer. It’s a no brainier for me, especially with him potentially missing a month through AFCON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnow john Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 1 hour ago, Babylon said: I mean he did get expelled from the youth championships for failing the wrist scans. A discredited test that is no longer used! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 3 minutes ago, notnow john said: A discredited test that is no longer used! But there are replacement tests like the MRI wrist scan that is being used more and more my football federations in Africa. I don't see a whole lot of reports about players effected by this lining up for the new MRI wrist scan and neither am i reading about decisions being overturned.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 11 minutes ago, notnow john said: A discredited test that is no longer used! They DO still use it. A whole bunch of youth players from Cameroon where banned this year using the same test. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnow john Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 Just now, Scotch said: They DO still use it. A whole bunch of youth players from Cameroon where banned this year using the same test. 1 minute ago, Scotch said: They DO still use it. A whole bunch of youth players from Cameroon where banned this year using the same test. Different test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 Just now, notnow john said: Different test. Both where an MRI wrist scan to look at the clavicle on the left hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnow john Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 The discredited test that Wilf and his team mates were subjected to were x rays not MRI scans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 (edited) https://x.com/lcfc/status/1696164984429117796?s=46&t=AoOaeZ7ZwbWhZtCiUPs7EQ hes not leaving is he…? Edited 28 August 2023 by Stevosevic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 3 minutes ago, Stevosevic said: https://x.com/lcfc/status/1696164984429117796?s=46&t=AoOaeZ7ZwbWhZtCiUPs7EQ hes not leaving is he…? That is just for Forest - Gets us another few million innit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 20 minutes ago, notnow john said: The discredited test that Wilf and his team mates were subjected to were x rays not MRI scans. Not it wasn't. It was MRI. MRI scans have been compulsory with the CAF since 2011. The Ndidi incident happened 2 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 1 hour ago, Scotch said: Both where an MRI wrist scan to look at the clavicle on the left hand. I thought the clavicle was also known as the collar bone? Are you the club doctor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 Isn't signing him on loan alongside the Turk. Like betting on two horses in the same race i.e. they can't both shine. As if one does, the other won't get a look in. This lads reel looks all about physical attributes - pace and strength. Not seen a lot of technical prowess. Where as Akgun seems more tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalletFox Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 Just for completeness, is Wilf leaving and is his clavicle OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merchant_Banker Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 2 minutes ago, MalletFox said: Just for completeness, is Wilf leaving and is his clavicle OK? Failed the medical, apparently he has a shoulder blade in his thumb! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 6 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: I thought the clavicle was also known as the collar bone? Are you the club doctor? Lol. Carpal* bones. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 7 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: I thought the clavicle was also known as the collar bone? Are you the club doctor? The Club Doctor has done is ACL and is therefore unavailable for comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 25 minutes ago, Stevosevic said: https://x.com/lcfc/status/1696164984429117796?s=46&t=AoOaeZ7ZwbWhZtCiUPs7EQ hes not leaving is he…? In fairness, our social media team are pretty oblivious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 32 minutes ago, notnow john said: The discredited test that Wilf and his team mates were subjected to were x rays not MRI scans. MRI https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/04/13/3-nigerian-footballers-caught-age-cheating/?amp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 28 August 2023 Share Posted 28 August 2023 I snapped my clavicle once, you wouldn’t think it but you’d be amazed how much it hurts your shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Babylon Posted 28 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 28 August 2023 Sell… last year of contract, regressed, doesn’t fit out style of football. Don’t care who it’s to, take the money. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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